# Catch-All Dio Pitting **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 11, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997 "2011-04-11T20:04:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 18
**Author:** ![Morgenstern](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f9ae1b/32.png) [@Morgenstern](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgenstern)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/341 "2011-04-13T22:30:54Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Hey, now. This is a family thread. I was thinking the same thing. At least wait until the ceremony is over. ---
**Author:** ![Smeghead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/f1d935/32.png) [@Smeghead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smeghead)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 10:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/342 "2011-04-13T22:52:04Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Hey, now. This is a family thread. As evidenced by the hate, bitterness, and constant insults. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/343 "2011-04-13T22:55:06Z")
> [@AClockworkMelon](#): > > You’ve gone from PTSD to Stockholm Syndrome. Not Stockholmy so much as just really good at getting the most I can out of terrible experiences. But on second thought, actually I still might be really pissed off about that. If my story raised eyebrows, fine - I still have a hard time keeping all that shit straight myself. I can deal with that. But anybody - especially a champion of women’s rights - ought to know that ‘‘Fuck you, I don’t believe you’’ is not the most tactful way to address a seeming contradiction in personal testimony about a traumatic history. It’s been well-established that half of the shit normal people remember is pretty much pulled out of their asses anyway, and when you have a history as fucked up as mine I’d say the odds are pretty high that things aren’t always going to come out right. So fine, he didn’t know that, or care, whatever. Maybe he was convinced I was the biggest goddamn troll in all of existence. The part that bothers me is that I’ve been here for four years and he still doesn’t give a shit how much he hurt me. He won’t even acknowledge the obvious risk he was taking by fucking with someone who was possibly genuinely traumatized. To me that’s just inhuman. But if he doesn’t care, he doesn’t care. I can grind my axe or I can just accept him for what he is. Or I can bring it up every time he’s Pitted. I’m still mulling my options. ---
**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/344 "2011-04-13T23:02:26Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > I have the oddest sensation that I’m in an evangelical church and somebody just got talked into walking down the aisle. The joyful tears… the swell of the organ… Been burned by false promises too many times in my past to believe it until I see it. The proof is in the posting. ---
**Author:** ![heatmiserfl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@heatmiserfl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heatmiserfl)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/345 "2011-04-13T23:03:49Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I’m hearing you guys, ok. I’m going to try. Definitely appreciated. Thanks! ---
**Author:** ![Nzinga\_Seated](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/b5ac83/32.png) [@Nzinga\_Seated](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nzinga_Seated)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/346 "2011-04-13T23:04:09Z")
Olives, can we get a link for that thread? It’s been referenced in many posts. Maybe I missed it. ---
**Author:** ![heatmiserfl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/df705f/32.png) [@heatmiserfl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/heatmiserfl)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/347 "2011-04-13T23:07:44Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > The joyful tears… the swell of the organ… Alright, I read that as the **smell** of the organ. (Which makes sense if the Evangelical Church is Ted Haggard’s.) ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/348 "2011-04-13T23:08:32Z")
> [@Nzinga\_Seated](#): > > Olives, can we get a link for that thread? It’s been referenced in many posts. Maybe I missed it. [Yeah. Here it is.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=409022) The fun starts at post 93. Warning: I’m pretty embarrassed by my behavior in this thread. I was not mentally well. ---
**Author:** ![Autolycus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/22d042/32.png) [@Autolycus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Autolycus)\ **Post date:** [April 13, 2011, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/349 "2011-04-13T23:57:55Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > But if he doesn’t care, he doesn’t care. I can grind my axe or I can just accept him for what he is. Or I can bring it up every time he’s Pitted. I’m still mulling my options. He’s stubborn as a mule with lockjaw, but I doubt he doesn’t care at all. **Dio** wouldn’t engender such controversy if he didn’t have a human side that people liked and cared about. And even if he is a cruel, uncaring robot, you know which choice you should choose out of the three you mentioned. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/350 "2011-04-14T00:06:36Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > [Yeah. Here it is.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=409022) > > The fun starts at post 93. > > Warning: I’m pretty embarrassed by my behavior in this thread. I was not mentally well. “Fuck you, I don’t believe you”? That is some cold shit. Followed up with “I don’t believe in insincere apologies.” I don’t recall that stuff when it happened, but reading it now makes me view Dio’s pledge to try to change with much more skepticism. That was class A asshole behavior. I’m going to have to see a real change to believe it. ---
**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 5:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/351 "2011-04-14T05:47:01Z")
> [@Autolycus](#): > > He’s stubborn as a mule with lockjaw, but I doubt he doesn’t care at all. **Dio** wouldn’t engender such controversy if he didn’t have a human side that people liked and cared about. > > And even if he is a cruel, uncaring robot, you know which choice you should choose out of the three you mentioned. Robots are cool. Did you ever see that movie about robots? I think it was called The Happening. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 6:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/352 "2011-04-14T06:38:32Z")
> [@jsgoddess](#): > > Anyone up for a game of Three Colander Monte? The truth is under the middle one. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 11:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/353 "2011-04-14T11:16:55Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > Warning: I’m pretty embarrassed by my behavior in this thread. I’m glad to hear you say this (or read you write this, but that sounds strange). I don’t particularly like posts that bleed lots of personal stuff all over. When they are accompanied by “fuck you if you think this is TMI,” well, there’s not much need to go any further. Having said that, I like who you’ve become (in SDMB land) since that time. I also loathe [HUGS] posts, but that’s just me, and that’s why I don’t really spend much time in places where such posts are more likely to be seen. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 11:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/354 "2011-04-14T11:40:27Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > Having said that, I like who you’ve become (in SDMB land) since that time. Thank you. It took me a while to learn how to establish personal boundaries, and I would say that thread was one of my greatest instructors in that regard. That said, my natural threshold for TMI is quite a bit higher than it is for the average person. It’s the closed off people I have a really hard time dealing with. I consider apathy a form of cowardice. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/355 "2011-04-14T13:03:35Z")
> [@olivesmarch4th](#): > > That said, my natural threshold for TMI is quite a bit higher than it is for the average person. I’m sure there are individual differences in tolerance for such, and that, among many other things, makes life interesting. There are also individual differences in emotional manipulation and excessive attention seeking. While not identical with over-sharing, they co-occur often enough that it raises my hackles when I encounter it. > [@](#): > > It’s the closed off people I have a really hard time dealing with. I consider apathy a form of cowardice. Interesting. I’m having a hard time conceptualizing apathy in such a way as to include an affective component. At the same time, I’m having a hard time conceptualizing cowardice as to not include an affective component. I don’t think that chocolate is going with that peanut butter for me. I wonder if it’s more a method of trying to increase one’s personal attack on others who actually don’t really care (or perhaps don’t care enough about our own personal difficulties)? You know, trying to put them on the defensive by calling them cowards, even though it doesn’t fit? ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/356 "2011-04-14T13:15:04Z")
Some people are definitely aggressively apathetic, but in my opinion this tends to be an assumed or affected apathy, rather than actual apathy. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/357 "2011-04-14T13:30:12Z")
> [@acsenray](#): > > “Fuck you, I don’t believe you”? That is some cold shit. I just had a look, and the quotes you give were a response to similar remarks --worse and unprovoked-- directed at Dio. …not that I want to reanimate that discussion. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/358 "2011-04-14T14:44:41Z")
I knew that sounded [familiar](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=578828&highlight=Diogenes+change+posting+style&page=7). > [@Diogenes the Cynic](#): > > All I can and will do is take this latest series of pit threads under advisement (though its kind of lame for them to keep dragging out the same 5 year old threads every six months) and try to be a little more thoughtful and careful about how I post. I think my problem is more with tone than with content. There’s no point in apologizing or anything. Apologies are basically worthless (and truth be told, while I’m a little chastened by all of this, I’m not exactly tortured by remorse, just sobered), the only thing that’s going to mean anything is action, so my actions will have to speak for themselves. I think the actions (or lack thereof) over the past months really speak for themselves. ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/359 "2011-04-14T17:05:42Z")
Thanks - I think that was the post my admittedly vague memory was recalling. Second verse, same as the first. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/360 "2011-04-14T17:14:47Z")
Apparently Dio said this once: “I think my problem is more with tone than with content.” It’s both. The tone sucks. And there is no content when he is in Dio mode. And its repeated over and over just to really make it all extra special. Many posters might do ONE of those three on any given bad day. But their bad days are few and far between and then fade into obscurity because it didn’t cause a trainwreck. Dio often does all three at the same time and with a decent and apparently increasing frequency. Maybe this latest intervention and him supossedly seeing the light will work but I aint holding my breath. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997.md?page=17) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997.md?page=19)