# Catch-All Dio Pitting **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 11, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997 "2011-04-11T20:04:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/381 "2011-04-14T19:36:08Z")
My bad - I shouldn’t have fed him. ETA - [QUOTE=LHoD] Well over 90% of a government official’s statements are not intended to be factual. [/QUOTE] I saw what you did there. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/382 "2011-04-14T19:38:14Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Why don’t you read the thread yourself? For the record, nobody in that thread disputed that the school district was denying the policy existed. Hi **Diogenes** , I just scanned the thread and you came off like the Dio Show. You first [comment](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13682599&postcount=79) said [INDENT]Everybody knows this story is bogus, right? The school district has denied that any such policy exists and says the principal was misquoted. [/INDENT] Your next few [posts](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=604369&highlight=school+lunches&page=2)said there was no proof the policy had been in place for six years as the newspaper story claimed. That was a point of vast insignificance to the discussion, but you needed to make it to defend your initial post. Later you dropped in the say the story was unproved. [INDENT]It has not been established that this program ever existed. It appears to be a fiction. Why do people keep accepting it as established fact? [/INDENT] Again just pugnacious one liners, and only mildly relevant to the discussion, which was as much theoretical as concrete A few posts later someone linked to [this story](http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/education/ct-met-school-lunch-restrictions-041120110410,0,4567867.story) that had multiple parents indicating there was such a policy. **Dio** , the pugnacious one liners were close enough to thread shitting to stink up the thread. The emphasis on six years was crap, and now you’re using it to defend your position in this pit thread. Be a mensch, buddy. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 7:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/383 "2011-04-14T19:48:12Z")
That last cite was just put up in that thread about half an hour ago and I hadn’t seen it yet. Fine, I accept it. It still wan’t unreasonable to point out that school district had denied it or to ask for corroboration. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/384 "2011-04-14T19:53:22Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > That last cite was just put up in that thread about half an hour ago and I hadn’t seen it yet. Fine, I accept it. It still wan’t unreasonable to point out that school district had denied it or to ask for corroboration. No, it’s not unreasonable. What IS unreasonable is to come saying that the story is bogus, with no cite, and with a faint air of contemptuous surprise that people don’t realize that the story is bogus. That’s exactly the sort of ridiculous shit that people get annoyed at you for doing. If instead you’d said: > [@not Dio](#): > > Turns out [there’s some controversy over whether the story is true..](http://www.foxnews.com/us/2011/04/11/chicago-elementary-school-bans-lunches-brought-home/) > > > [@Chicaco Schools Spokesperson](#): > > > > “We do not have a policy that prohibits students from bringing lunch/brown bag from home,” said Bond. “This principal was misquoted.” then it would’ve been something interesting to add to the discussion, **especially if you’d left it there**. But when you drop the absolute and uncited statement in, and then when challenged on it start with these ridiculous fucking philosophical questions of who has the burden of proof, it’s an asshole move. If you’re serious about changing, you won’t do things like this any more. If you don’t have a slam-dunk point, you won’t pretend like you do; instead, you’ll qualify it. Go overboard, even, on hedging your bets. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/385 "2011-04-14T19:53:51Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > That last cite was just put up in that thread about half an hour ago and I hadn’t seen it yet. Fine, I accept it. It still wan’t unreasonable to point out that school district had denied it or to ask for corroboration. You shouldn’t lead off with “Everybody knows this is bogus, right?” and follow up with, “This appears to be fiction.” ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/386 "2011-04-14T19:55:53Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > That last cite was just put up in that thread about half an hour ago and I hadn’t seen it yet. Fine, I accept it. It still wan’t unreasonable to point out that school district had denied it or to ask for corroboration. Incidentally, [you’re wrong once again](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13678982&postcount=8). The cite from half an hour ago was also the cite in post 8. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/387 "2011-04-14T20:03:03Z")
And in post 19, 23, 24, 44, 45, and 57, before you came in to say it was bogus. Admittedly some of those it’s just appearing when someone’s post is being quoted, but if you were convinced the last time it appeared, it indicates you’re not following the thread very carefully. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/388 "2011-04-14T20:12:19Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > And in post 19, 23, 24, 44, 45, and 57, before you came in to say it was bogus. Admittedly some of those it’s just appearing when someone’s post is being quoted, but if you were convinced the last time it appeared, it indicates you’re not following the thread very carefully. Different article. The one in post 141 of the thread (and linked in my post upthread here) quotes several parents. ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/389 "2011-04-14T20:19:57Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > Different article. The one in post 141 of the thread (and linked in my post upthread here) quotes several parents. 😕 So does the one I linked to, on page 2. I’ve not gone through them word-for-word, but I think it’s the same article. ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/390 "2011-04-14T20:43:42Z")
> [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](#): > > 😕 So does the one I linked to, on page 2. I’ve not gone through them word-for-word, but I think it’s the same article. You’re right. I’m not sure why my link had the parents on the first page, and had larger type… but the same info was there. Apologies. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/391 "2011-04-14T20:54:29Z")
> [@billfish678](#): > > Geezus on a cracker. > > Let me summarize it as I see it. > > Thread is folks bitching about the Dio Zone. > > Lots of bitching and moaning and ill will. > > Dio starts Dio Zoning. > > Then Dio sees the error of his ways and will try to change. > > Then he starts fucking Dio Zoning again post haste. > > Yeah, we will get things fixed up around these parts here right quick and easy. Just because you’re saved doesn’t mean you stop sinning. Granted, most people at least make it back to their seat first… ---
**Author:** ![Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/left_hand_of_dorkness/32/7156_2.png) [@Left\_Hand\_of\_Dorkness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Left_Hand_of_Dorkness)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/392 "2011-04-14T21:06:32Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > You’re right. I’m not sure why my link had the parents on the first page, and had larger type… but the same info was there. Apologies. No worries! ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/393 "2011-04-14T22:40:47Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Just because you’re saved doesn’t mean you stop sinning. Granted, most people at least make it back to their seat first… Its “interesting” to see Dio Dionizing the very thread thats about bitching about Dionizing threads and him nearly quadultationously denying he does it, apologizing for doing it, promising to not do it again, and then fracking turning around and doing it once again. Its like have an intervention at a big family reunion about 2nd cousin bubba who most people think treats his wife poorly. When confronted, he denies it, promises to never do it (not that he ever did in the first place), then turns around slaps his wife in the face and says “get me another beer bitch”. ---
**Author:** ![Darth\_Nader](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ad7895/32.png) [@Darth\_Nader](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darth_Nader)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/394 "2011-04-14T22:47:40Z")
[QUOTE=Wargames (1983)] Remember when you told me to tell you when you were acting rude and insensitive? Well, you’re doing it now. [/QUOTE] Ahh, movies… ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/395 "2011-04-14T23:01:29Z")
[QUOTE=a sock] Text removed. [/QUOTE] Hi, Sock. ---
**Author:** ![billfish678](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@billfish678](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/billfish678)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/396 "2011-04-14T23:08:59Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Hi, Sock. Get me two beers bitch. ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 11:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/397 "2011-04-14T23:26:57Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Hi, Sock. Indeed. I’ve removed the sock’s post, and your quote of him in your last post. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/398 "2011-04-14T23:29:42Z")
Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/399 "2011-04-14T23:45:34Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > I just had a look, and the quotes you give were a response to similar remarks --worse and unprovoked-- directed at Dio. > > …not that I want to reanimate that discussion. Let the record show that I apologized to him in that thread for my inappropriate response. When I started feeling that angry again, I just left. I think I’m justified in feeling how I did, but not in how I responded, and also posting the thread was a dumb idea in the first place. Some people seem to understand my feelings and others don’t. I really don’t know what else to say. [QUOTE=Omegaman] Oh, and by the way, get the fuck off Olives. She may have issues but there’s only a handfull of posters here that have a heart like hers. [/QUOTE] Thank you, sir! At least on this point, **Dio** and I see eye to eye. I’m not going to change who I am to suit someone else. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2011, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/400 "2011-04-14T23:59:35Z")
For the record, I’ve never seen any reason to doubt you since then and agree that youhave a big heart. I apologize for any distress I caused you with my initial suspicions back then. I sure never meant to trigger anything. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997.md?page=21)