# Catch-All Dio Pitting **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 11, 2011, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997 "2011-04-11T20:04:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 24
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/461 "2011-04-16T03:50:00Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > Maybe I should have, but people were kind of paranoid about new posters with emotional stories at the time. The fascinating thing about this is that the PM system on the SDMB wasn’t activated when the KaitSix thing went down and wasn’t activated for a while after. So…it’s interesting that you were able to get sooper-sekrit pms from your many admirers who wanted you to champion their viewpoint…when PMs weren’t turned on for anyone here and wouldn’t be for I’d guess another year or 18 months. ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/462 "2011-04-16T08:17:43Z")
Is Dio like a major financial contributor to the board or something? Or does he just jack up everyone’s post counts and web hits with his Dio Show? ---
**Author:** ![Cort](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/77aa72/32.png) [@Cort](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cort)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 9:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/463 "2011-04-16T09:48:49Z")
I like the guy. ---
**Author:** ![kidchameleon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/898d66/32.png) [@kidchameleon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kidchameleon)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 12:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/464 "2011-04-16T12:50:03Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > Is Dio like a major financial contributor to the board or something? > > Or does he just jack up everyone’s post counts and web hits with his Dio Show? He has too many posts to fail. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/465 "2011-04-16T15:06:21Z")
> [@Fenris](#): > > The fascinating thing about this is that the PM system on the SDMB wasn’t activated when the KaitSix thing went down and wasn’t activated for a while after. Ooh you got me. It must have been emails then. It was 4 years ago. i don’t have some encyclopedic memory of exactly how people have written me over the years. I’ve gotten both. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/466 "2011-04-16T15:45:11Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > Is Dio like a major financial contributor to the board or something? > > Or does he just jack up everyone’s post counts and web hits with his Dio Show? **Diogenes** is Cecil Adams. ---
**Author:** ![RaftPeople](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/6f9a4e/32.png) [@RaftPeople](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RaftPeople)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/467 "2011-04-16T17:00:15Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > It must have been emails then. It was 4 years ago. i don’t have some encyclopedic memory of exactly how people have written me over the years. I’ve gotten both. Sorry, but you have never received an email. I have never seen you receive an email, so there is simply no way that you could have received one. ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/468 "2011-04-16T17:05:38Z")
What happens with Diogenes the Cynic is that there is no specific board rule that he is breaking. If you ban him just for “being a jerk” then the people that are happy with the banning will say “you just need to use your judgment and ignore the people that don’t like it.” Then there will be the people that start the ATMB thread and complain how “the administrators just ignore us and refuse to answer our questions or justify their actions”. And there will be the people who say “the administrators use the ‘be a jerk’ rule for no reason except to get rid of people they don’t like”. Not infrequently the same people that say “just use your catch-all ‘don’t be a jerk’ rule on poster X” will be the same people screaming to high heaven when you use the catch-all “don’t be a jerk” rule on poster Y. One can never predict the future, but things that seem clear-cut can turn into a multi-page bitchfest with cries of unfairness and capriciousness and whatever else. Personally I see why Diogenes’ style of argument can irritate people, but I also see that people don’t need to argue with him if they don’t like the way he does it. It’s not all one-sided here. ---
**Author:** ![Spice\_Weasel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spice_weasel/32/5435_2.png) [@Spice\_Weasel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spice_Weasel)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/469 "2011-04-16T17:31:11Z")
> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#): > > Personally I see why Diogenes’ style of argument can irritate people, but I also see that people don’t need to argue with him if they don’t like the way he does it. It’s not all one-sided here. ‘‘Fool me seven times, shame on you. Fool me _eight or more_ times…’’ ---
**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/470 "2011-04-16T18:36:41Z")
I wouldn’t give a flying fig if **Dio** stayed or was banned if the threads we are all trying to participate in didn’t get shut down because of his assholery. **Ellen Cherry** said it herself in the ATMB thread - that it was a case of, “Okay, I don’t care who started it, you’re all getting your toys taken away.” I really don’t think that is the only or best solution to one guy who can’t control himself. ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/471 "2011-04-16T18:44:51Z")
> [@RaftPeople](#): > > Sorry, but you have never received an email. > > I have never seen you receive an email, so there is simply no way that you could have received one. I just giggled. ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/472 "2011-04-16T18:46:05Z")
> [@Arnold\_Winkelried](#): > > What happens with Diogenes the Cynic is that there is no specific board rule that he is breaking. I thought **personal insults** were against the rules? ---
**Author:** ![Arnold\_Winkelried](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Arnold\_Winkelried](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Arnold_Winkelried)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2011, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/473 "2011-04-16T19:14:52Z")
Yes they are outside the BBQ Pit. ---
**Author:** ![bucketybuck](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/898d66/32.png) [@bucketybuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bucketybuck)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2011, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/474 "2011-04-17T01:08:38Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > I thought **personal insults** were against the rules? I thought **being a Jerk** was against the rules, but I guess not. ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/475 "2011-04-18T20:11:38Z")
Dio just [made up](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13701707&postcount=127) a new Jewish holiday. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/476 "2011-04-18T20:16:26Z")
> [@CitizenPained](#): > > Dio just [made up](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=13701707&postcount=127) a new Jewish holiday. From what I’ve heard, Dio actually does know his shit when it comes to religion. ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/477 "2011-04-18T20:48:26Z")
> [@Joey\_P](#): > > From what I’ve heard, Dio actually does know his shit when it comes to religion. He’s wrong. He’s been wrong before on Biblical Hebrew, too. I’ve corrected him a few times and I’ve only been here two weeks. It wouldn’t be annoying if he didn’t pull the ‘neener neener you’re wroooooooooooooooooongggggggggg!’ rebuttal without any, you know, citations, facts, or counter-argument. ---
**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/478 "2011-04-18T20:56:20Z")
I’m quite ignorant on the subject but google seems to agree with him. How is he wrong? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/479 "2011-04-18T21:02:51Z")
She’s some new stalker that’s been following me around the board trying pick fights. She’s not very bright or informed and is persistently dishonest as well. She thinks I made up the Paschal lamb. Whatever. ---
**Author:** ![Farmer\_Jane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Farmer\_Jane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Farmer_Jane)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2011, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997/480 "2011-04-18T21:03:05Z")
> [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](#): > > I’m quite ignorant on the subject but google seems to agree with him. How is he wrong? Where?! [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997.md?page=23) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catch-all-dio-pitting/577997.md?page=25)