# Catholic Bishops can suck my ass

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**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 19, 2021, 12:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-bishops-can-suck-my-ass/944594 "2021-06-19T00:43:03Z")\
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**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2022, 9:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-bishops-can-suck-my-ass/944594/381 "2022-05-23T09:30:01Z")

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A reminder that the Pope has officially frowned on the whole “denying communion for political reasons” thing. But doing stuff the Pope said not to is hardly uncommon amongst American bishoprics.\*

\*pronounced “bishop pricks”.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [May 23, 2022, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-bishops-can-suck-my-ass/944594/382 "2022-05-23T16:18:47Z")

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He ‘frowned’ on molestation thing too. But he, and his predecessors, did nothing to stop it.

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**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-bishops-can-suck-my-ass/944594/383 "2022-06-17T16:37:54Z")

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From the Omnibus Stupid MFer thread:

> **[School flying BLM, LGBTQ flags can’t call itself Catholic, bishop says](https://www.washingtonpost.com/religion/2022/06/16/school-blm-lgbtq-flags-not-catholic/)**
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> The bishop said the middle school, which serves boys facing economic hardship, can no longer identify itself as Catholic because the flags are “inconsistent with Catholic teaching.”

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-bishops-can-suck-my-ass/944594/384 "2022-06-17T16:45:44Z")

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But they could fly a NAMBLA flag without any problem, I’m sure.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 5:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-bishops-can-suck-my-ass/944594/385 "2022-06-17T17:28:19Z")

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Unlike the Catholic Church, NAMBLA is open about its pedophilia.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-bishops-can-suck-my-ass/944594/386 "2022-06-17T17:48:30Z")

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I can see the opposition to the LGBTQ flag even if I disagree with the bishop on his action - there specific Catholic teachings in direct contradiction to a lot of what that flag represents.

But BLM? Even if some violent groups have attached themselves to it, it represents pretty clearly a call for inclusion and treating people equally. So, yeah, he can suck my ass.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-bishops-can-suck-my-ass/944594/387 "2022-06-17T17:59:04Z")

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> [@Folacin](#):
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> I can see the opposition to the LGBTQ flag even if I disagree with the bishop on his action - there specific Catholic teachings in direct contradiction to a lot of what that flag represents.

And yet many German (and Austrian, I don’t know about other countries) Catholic churches fly the rainbow flag all the time, without a peep from any bishop. I know they’re special for that, but at least parts of the church, especially their laity, have begun to see the light. They also perform same-sex blessings, against the will of the Vatican.

> **[German Catholic diocese hosts event declaring same-sex blessings a case of...](https://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/247567/german-catholic-diocese-hosts-event-declaring-same-sex-blessings-a-case-of-not-if-but-how)**
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> The Diocese of Essen held the conference ahead of a nationwide event defying the Vatican’s “no” to same-sex blessings.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-bishops-can-suck-my-ass/944594/388 "2022-06-17T18:30:17Z")

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The American Catholic Church has been on a mission to out-Catholic the global Catholic Church for a while.

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**Author:** ![EinsteinsHund](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/einsteinshund/32/8400_2.png) [@EinsteinsHund](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EinsteinsHund)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-bishops-can-suck-my-ass/944594/389 "2022-06-17T18:38:54Z")

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Is it only the American clergy or also the laity? Because in Germany, the clerics are driven by the ever dwindling laity to change things.

> **[Synodal Path](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synodal_Path)**
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> The Synodal Path (German: Der Synodale Weg or Synodaler Weg, sometimes translated as Synodal Way) is a series of conferences of the Catholic Church in Germany to discuss a range of contemporary theological and organizational questions concerning the Catholic Church, as well as possible reactions to the sexual abuse crisis in the Catholic Church in Germany.
> The Synodal Path's supreme body is the Synodal Assembly. It consists of 230 members, made up...

If the Synodal Path should fail (as I expect it to because of the Vatican’s stance. The Vatican understandably gets a little nervous with German reformative aspirations…), the German Catholic Church is destined to became a small ultra-conservative cult.

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**Author:** ![Folacin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/folacin/32/3195_2.png) [@Folacin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Folacin)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-bishops-can-suck-my-ass/944594/390 "2022-06-17T19:12:30Z")

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> [@EinsteinsHund](#):
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> And yet many German (and Austrian, I don’t know about other countries) Catholic churches fly the rainbow flag all the time, without a peep from any bishop.

I would imagine that there are at least some US Catholic bishops who wouldn’t have sanctioned the school. JPII and Benedict installed a lot of very conservative ones, but I imagine that Francis has put in some moderate (relative to senior Catholic clerics), and there may be some holdovers from before JPII (although they’d be pretty old by now).

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**Author:** ![Ulfreida](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ulfreida/32/8014_2.png) [@Ulfreida](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulfreida)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2022, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-bishops-can-suck-my-ass/944594/391 "2022-06-17T19:46:13Z")

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The real problem with the Catholic Church is not predatory priests. There are predatory men everywhere, and their preferential treatment by our still-patriarchal society, over their victims, is of extremely long standing. Only in very recent times have victims had much recourse, in an organization or out of it. The real problem is that it is a completely top-down-governed institution, absolutely dedicated to preserving itself as a rigid male hierarchy. It is the lengths that the institution will go to retain its power over its laity that is the great scandal.

There are many constituents from bottom to top who disapprove mightily of these crimes – but because there is no structure for the ‘people’s voice’ within the Church, it’s enormously difficult to get any traction on all the changes that need to happen if there is to be any kind of regularized justice.

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**Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-bishops-can-suck-my-ass/944594/392 "2022-07-03T14:02:27Z")

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"NEW ORLEANS (AP) — The FBI has opened a widening investigation into sex abuse in the Roman Catholic Church in New Orleans going back decades, a rare federal foray into such cases looking specifically at whether priests took children across state lines to molest them, officials and others familiar with the inquiry told The Associated Press. "

I bet the FBI could open such an investigation into damn near any, if not any, single diocese and find guilt.

> **[FBI opens sweeping probe of clergy sex abuse in New Orleans](https://apnews.com/article/new-orleans-clergy-sex-abuse-fbi-investigation-0d0ee865d27508b7848909d8e82e87fb)**
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> NEW ORLEANS (AP) — The FBI has opened a widening investigation into sex abuse in the Roman Catholic Church in New Orleans going back decades, a rare federal foray into such cases looking specifically at whether priests took children across state...

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [July 3, 2022, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-bishops-can-suck-my-ass/944594/393 "2022-07-03T16:50:24Z")

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“Sex trafficking is a huge problem in the United States, where even children are being abused and exploited by disgusting pimps who hide in plain sight. But enough about the Catholic Church…”

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