# Catholic Church being scum (again) **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 26, 2012, 9:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-church-being-scum-again/619998 "2012-04-26T09:27:42Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 12\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![gamerunknown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6bbea6/32.png) [@gamerunknown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gamerunknown)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-church-being-scum-again/619998/41 "2012-04-30T14:48:09Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > like they do sex outside of wedlock Not tolerating it in the least then? They have no political power, but they’ve repeatedly written injunctions against cohabitation. Their opposition to contraceptives and abortion plays into the culture of opposing such things too. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-church-being-scum-again/619998/42 "2012-04-30T15:04:53Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > You’re right… it would be impossible to fit a movie down anybody’s throat. > > Don’t I recall that there was a major effort to show it to school kids and that parents had to take measures to opt out? > > I was talking about things “like that” and admitting that the right pisses and moans too. > > Hey…did you see the story about the Chicago teacher who told the kids that the right wants to kill all the “porch monkeys”? I know it’s just an isolated incident but I wanted to expose some more silliness to the ignorant. Fascinating. You’re like a kid constantly trying to egg a neighbor’s house, who somehow manages to hit himself square in the face with every egg he hurls. I normally don’t care for slapstick, but I can’t get enough of yours. \*Please \*keep it up, at least until I choke to death on my own laughter. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-church-being-scum-again/619998/43 "2012-04-30T15:11:16Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > What’s Scotland? Chopped liver? Deep-fried chopped liver! But seriously, the Catholic Education Service mentioned in the OP is the organization in the Church that liaisons with Catholic-affiliated educational services in England and Wales. The corresponding organization in Scotland is the [Scottish Catholic Education Service](http://www.sces.uk.com/who-we-are.html), which answers to the Bishops of Scotland. The SCES, apparently having a couple more brain cells to rub together than the Sassenach CES, seems to have stayed away from this schoolkids-petition-against-gay-marriage drive. However, I don’t know how or by whom that decision was made, nor why the CES and SCES are two separate organizations in the first place. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-church-being-scum-again/619998/44 "2012-04-30T15:32:46Z")
> [@VinylTurnip](#): > > Fascinating. You’re like a kid constantly trying to egg a neighbor’s house, who somehow manages to hit himself square in the face with every egg he hurls. > > I normally don’t care for slapstick, but I can’t get enough of yours. \*Please \*keep it up, at least until I choke to death on my own laughter. That’s assuming you don’t spontaneously combust from the “warm glow” **What the…!!!** mentions at least once in every thread. I wouldn’t get too hopeful about the Scottish Catholics, by the way. Let’s not forget Cardinal Keith O’Brien’s recent claim that legalising gay marriage would be “a grotesque subversion of a universally accepted human right” and the government’s “intolerance will shame the United Kingdom in the eyes of the world”. O’Brien is currently the leader of the RCC in Scotland. Of course, it wasn’t a view well-received by the general populace. ---
**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-church-being-scum-again/619998/45 "2012-04-30T15:36:03Z")
> [@gamerunknown](#): > > Not tolerating it in the least then? They have no political power, but they’ve repeatedly written injunctions against cohabitation. Their opposition to contraceptives and abortion plays into the culture of opposing such things too. Edicts mean nothing if no one is actually following them. That’s what I mean by tolerance. It’s no different from how it’s tolerated in other faiths, really. And nearly every Christian I’ve met has had sex at least once without being married. I’m outlier even amongst my fellow Christians. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-church-being-scum-again/619998/46 "2012-04-30T15:47:54Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > What’s Scotland? Chopped liver? Haggis. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-church-being-scum-again/619998/47 "2012-04-30T16:03:17Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > You’re right… it would be impossible to fit a movie down anybody’s throat. > > Don’t I recall that there was a major effort to show it to school kids and that parents had to take measures to opt out? As shown before, it is clear that the right wing propaganda just lied and continues to lie on this issue, and where opt-out is concerned there is a common denominator on those efforts, and it is just old fashion anti-science. [http://www.wate.com/story/17354118/tennessees-evolution-bill-creating-an-uproar](http://www.wate.com/story/17354118/tennessees-evolution-bill-creating-an-uproar) > [@](#): > > A bill is on Gov. Bill Haslam’s desk that would protect teachers if they allow criticism in the classroom of scientific concepts like evolution and global warming. > > Versions of the measure have been working their way through the Legislature for years, but there’s a lot of uproar over this bill. > > Critics say it’s taking Tennessee back nearly 90 years, when evolution was first attacked legally in the state. > > Rep. Bill Dunn (R-Knoxville) sponsored the House version of the bill that’s now getting national attention. > > “What the bill does is, it protects teachers. It says stick with scientific facts and you will be protected. Without this, teachers don’t know how far to go, what to do and get into trouble,” Dunn said. > > Opponents say the bill is bringing controversy to science, which could confuse students. > > “By legislating that somehow these particular topics are controversial, implying that it’s controversial on a scientific basis is confusing to students,” said Joanne Carney, of the American Association for the Advancement of Science. > > The Tennessee Education Association also opposes the legislation, and the ACLU is calling it backwards. But what is really silly is that your “example” is actually a thing that the Catholic Church is actually ok with, just like evolution. ---
**Author:** ![SteveG1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@SteveG1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SteveG1)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-church-being-scum-again/619998/48 "2012-04-30T16:18:41Z")
> [@Ludovic](#): > > That means “no worries”. Well played! Hakuna matata to you also! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Candyman74](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ad7895/32.png) [@Candyman74](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Candyman74)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2012, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-church-being-scum-again/619998/49 "2012-04-30T16:53:13Z")
Why children? Kids can’t vote. ---
**Author:** ![What\_the](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/f4b2a3/32.png) [@What\_the](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_the)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-church-being-scum-again/619998/50 "2012-05-01T15:04:02Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > _“The Roman Catholic church has written to every state-funded Catholic secondary school in England and Wales asking them to encourage pupils to sign a petition against gay marriage”_ is not an “isolated incident” due to a single teacher somewhere. Your analogy fails miserably. Wasn’t meant to be an analogy… just an effort to expose that idiocy to the ignorant. Would you like a link? As for egg on my face… it’s hapenned before no doubt but not as often as you might think. How did anything here backfire on me? ---
**Author:** ![wonky](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wonky/32/393_2.png) [@wonky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wonky)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2012, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-church-being-scum-again/619998/51 "2012-05-01T19:31:00Z")
> [@What\_the](#): > > Wasn’t meant to be an analogy… just an effort to expose that idiocy to the ignorant. You’re doing a bang-up job at exposing your idiocy to anyone who might not have known about it, so… Well done! Bravo! ---
**Author:** ![tagos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@tagos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tagos)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 9:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-church-being-scum-again/619998/52 "2012-05-02T09:29:43Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Fourth… Your post is so absurdly wrong that I’m going to give you the benefit of the doubt that you thought you were responding to someone else. Read the post you quoted, check your database of usernames and self proclaimed lawyers and get back to me. Apologies. Got you confused with Bricker. But as you are okay with kids being encouraged into bigotry if they are in religious schools the rest stands. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-church-being-scum-again/619998.md?page=2)