# Catholic School Students Yell at Jewish Students... **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 13, 2016, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841 "2016-03-13T05:30:36Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 5:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/1 "2016-03-13T05:30:36Z")
…and what did they yell? Yep, “[You killed Christ](http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/catholic-school-students-start-anti-semitic-chant-game-37607829)”. What should have been done in response? Well, those involved in the chanting of that extremely bigoted comment should’ve been ejected from the game–and possibly suspended from school. What did happen was that [the Catholic school’s administrators stopped the chanting and ordered the offenders to apologize](http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/03/12/catholic-memorial-students-chant-anti-semitic-taunts-newton-basketball-game/SYNt0ozzZm84DiRoSmMRMM/story.html#comments). It seems that certain RCC teachings haven’t made it to the pews. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 5:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/2 "2016-03-13T05:52:49Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > …and what did they yell? Yep, “[You killed Christ](http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/catholic-school-students-start-anti-semitic-chant-game-37607829)”. Response:“If we hadn’t, you’d be Jewish too.” ---
**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/3 "2016-03-13T05:55:12Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Response:“If we hadn’t, you’d be Jewish too.” Well, pagan, but the point still stands. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/4 "2016-03-13T06:31:34Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > …and what did they yell? Yep, “[You killed Christ](http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/catholic-school-students-start-anti-semitic-chant-game-37607829)”. Sure we did. He didn’t want to become a doctor. > [@](#): > > What should have been done in response? Well, those involved in the chanting of that extremely bigoted comment should’ve been ejected from the game–and possibly suspended from school. What did happen was that [the Catholic school’s administrators stopped the chanting and ordered the offenders to apologize](http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/03/12/catholic-memorial-students-chant-anti-semitic-taunts-newton-basketball-game/SYNt0ozzZm84DiRoSmMRMM/story.html#comments). > > It seems that certain RCC teachings haven’t made it to the pews. Sounds like a reasonable public punishment to me. I trust that privately they’ll be put on heavy Hail Mary duty or whatever the standard punishment is. ---
**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 6:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/5 "2016-03-13T06:50:17Z")
The other school was not Innocent. Some of the Newton fans chanted “Sausage Fest” at the Catholic Memorial fans – a crude reference to the fact that Catholic Memorial is an all-boys school. Read more at [Catholic School Fans Chant ‘You Killed Jesus’ At Jewish Opponents During High School Basketball Game](http://www.inquisitr.com/2881736/catholic-school-fans-chant-you-killed-jesus-at-jewish-opponents-during-high-school-basketball-game/#MXd6XlYLdbqmll5w). At least there was no mention of pedophilia, crusades, or occupied territories. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/6 "2016-03-13T07:05:13Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > The other school was not Innocent. > > Some of the Newton fans chanted “Sausage Fest” at the Catholic Memorial fans – a crude reference to the fact that Catholic Memorial is an all-boys school. > > Read more at [http://www.inquisitr.com/2881736/catholic-school-fans-chant-you-killed-jesus-at-jewish-opponents-during-high-school-basketball-game/#MXd6XlYLdbqmll5w](http://www.inquisitr.com/2881736/catholic-school-fans-chant-you-killed-jesus-at-jewish-opponents-during-high-school-basketball-game/#MXd6XlYLdbqmll5w). > > At least there was no mention of pedophilia, crusades, or occupied territories. Are you serious? You’re equating a remark, albeit a crude one, about an all boys school being an all boys school to so-called [“Jewish deicide”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_deicide)? ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/7 "2016-03-13T07:58:31Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > Are you serious? You’re equating a remark, albeit a crude one, about an all boys school being an all boys school to so-called [“Jewish deicide”](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewish_deicide)? They’re high school kids. They do stupid stuff. ---
**Author:** ![chappachula](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/d2c977/32.png) [@chappachula](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/chappachula)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/8 "2016-03-13T08:25:45Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > They’re high school kids. They do stupid stuff. yeah, Sometimes people get too worked up over minor issues. Now, it’s true that “Christ-killer” has a long and horrible history as the rallying cry for violent attacks on Jews. But I doubt if any of these Catholic kids really knew that. And at a basketball game, I doubt if any of them were planning to go out afterwards to attack Jews and burn them at the stake. So yes…They need to be told to shut up. They definitely need to make a public apology. And their school needs to teach them their own history, expecially the Inquisition, and the cruelty of the knights who carried out the crusades. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/9 "2016-03-13T08:46:08Z")
> [@chappachula](#): > > Now, it’s true that “Christ-killer” has a long and horrible history as the rallying cry for violent attacks on Jews. But I doubt if any of these Catholic kids really knew that. > And at a basketball game, I doubt if any of them were planning to go out afterwards to attack Jews and burn them at the stake. How did they learn to make the accusation in the first place? Seems to me the issue is not one of mere rudeness, but the revelation that young Catholics are still being transmitted this idea. Is it the kids who owe penance here? ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/10 "2016-03-13T08:59:12Z")
> [@Colibri](#): > > They’re high school kids. They do stupid stuff. In post #6, I was talking about smithsb’s dumbass commentary. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 11:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/11 "2016-03-13T11:42:32Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > How did they learn to make the accusation in the first place? > > Seems to me the issue is not one of mere rudeness, but the revelation that young Catholics are still being transmitted this idea. Is it the kids who owe penance here? I would be very surprised to learn that this was being taught in any educational setting. I suppose this is something they could have heard at home, but more likely, it’s something they found as a meme somewhere. And it’s an accusation that always puzzled me, even as a kid. Sure, the Jewish crowd involved in the story of Jesus’ death were dicks, but they didn’t kill Him. The Romans killed Jesus. I guess, “Your distant ancestors didn’t stop the Romans from killing Jesus!” Is too complicated for a chant. ---
**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 11:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/12 "2016-03-13T11:52:08Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I would be very surprised to learn that this was being taught in any educational setting. I suppose this is something they could have heard at home, but more likely, it’s something they found as a meme somewhere. A meme they must have found pretty easily (whether at school, home, or elsewhere), given its facile deployment; a meme which their Catholic elders failed to inoculate them against, in its specifics or on general principles. And are we to believe that this instance of public group chant was the first occasion on which those elders became aware that the meme had been adopted? ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 12:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/13 "2016-03-13T12:21:31Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > How did they learn to make the accusation in the first place?.. Maybe by being taught their own history? Or any European history? Or recent papal encyclicals? ---
**Author:** ![Ruken](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/f475e1/32.png) [@Ruken](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ruken)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 12:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/14 "2016-03-13T12:22:33Z")
> [@smithsb](#): > > Some of the Newton fans chanted “Sausage Fest” at the Catholic Memorial fans – a crude reference to the fact that Catholic Memorial is an all-boys school. A term most often used by participants in said fests, IME. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 12:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/15 "2016-03-13T12:29:22Z")
> [@Peremensoe](#): > > A meme they must have found pretty easily (whether at school, home, or elsewhere), given its facile deployment; a meme which their Catholic elders failed to inoculate them against, in its specifics or on general principles. Sure. An ADL survey from a couple of years ago found that 25% of Americans agreed with the proposition. It’s easy to encounter. But not in modern-day Catholic instruction. Pope Benedict affirmed that the idea was nonsense in his book and he was not breaking new ground,; the Second Vatican Council in 1965 specifically and clearly stated that the Jews bear no responsibility for the death of Jesus. Now, it may be that these kids did not get that message. Or maybe they did, and chose to say it anyway. I can easily imagine that, because they sound like dicks to me. > [@](#): > > And are we to believe that this instance of public group chant was the first occasion on which those elders became aware that the meme had been adopted? Yes, unless you have some information I don’t. I can’t imagine any Catholic educator hearing their students say something like that and not acting immediately to stop it. Again, I am speaking of the modern Catholic Church. I can easily imagine this happening with implicit support from the grown ups a hundred years ago, or fifty years ago – in living memory, in other words. ---
**Author:** ![j666](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/9de0a6/32.png) [@j666](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/j666)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/16 "2016-03-13T14:25:29Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > … I can easily imagine this happening with implicit support from the grown ups a hundred years ago, or fifty years ago – in living memory, in other words. I can’t, at least not forty, forty-five years ago. Kids were threatened with being kicked out of the school. ---
**Author:** ![Scumpup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ce73a5/32.png) [@Scumpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scumpup)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 2:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/17 "2016-03-13T14:30:06Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > …and what did they yell? Yep, “[You killed Christ](http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/catholic-school-students-start-anti-semitic-chant-game-37607829)”. > > What should have been done in response? Well, those involved in the chanting of that extremely bigoted comment should’ve been ejected from the game–and possibly suspended from school. What did happen was that [the Catholic school’s administrators stopped the chanting and ordered the offenders to apologize](http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2016/03/12/catholic-memorial-students-chant-anti-semitic-taunts-newton-basketball-game/SYNt0ozzZm84DiRoSmMRMM/story.html#comments). > > It seems that certain RCC teachings haven’t made it to the pews. You need a hobby or a pet or something. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/18 "2016-03-13T14:45:12Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > I can’t imagine any Catholic educator hearing their students say something like that and not acting immediately to stop it. And according to the OP’s link, it sounds like the Catholic school’s president agrees with you: > [@](#): > > Catholic Memorial President Peter Folan apologized Saturday for what he called “abhorrent behavior.” He says the school “believes deeply that intolerance, of any kind, is unacceptable.” He says the school will “strenuously address” the issue within the school community. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/19 "2016-03-13T14:54:29Z")
> [@running\_coach](#): > > Response:“If we hadn’t, you’d be Jewish too.” Response: “It was suicide by cop!” ---
**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\ **Post date:** [March 13, 2016, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841/20 "2016-03-13T15:06:11Z")
I have 5 kids that are all involved in a multitude of sports. Elementary and middle school isn’t too bad for chanting, but it gets going in high school and college. Some sports are way worse than others. Some of it’s amusing, some of it is tasteless, some of it crosses the line. Some of it’s obvious, some of it depends on your perspective. My kids go to Catholic schools, and it’s not uncommon for opposing fans to dress as priests. Is that funny, tasteless, or insulting/disrespectful… crossing the line? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catholic-school-students-yell-at-jewish-students/748841.md?page=2)