# catsix are you serious? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 6, 2005, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607 "2005-02-06T03:41:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/1 "2005-02-06T03:41:18Z")
In [this reply](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5804411&postcount=308) to **KellyM** , are you seriously calling her abnormal and insane because she’s a transsexual? I’m about to say you’ve gone round the bend, but I won’t state it definitively until I’ve heard your response. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/2 "2005-02-06T03:55:17Z")
She didn’t call her abnormal she called her “psychotic.” True, it was said in response to a bit of a snipe by **KellyM** but still, going to the “psychotic” who wants to “cut off parts of your body” line is pretty much over the line. If **Catsix** did not mean to imply that all transgendered people are “psychotic” then she needs to clarify in a big fucking hurry. ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 4:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/3 "2005-02-06T04:11:39Z")
Isn’t **Catsix** married to **Kaitlyn**? I should think that might make her very accepting of transgender persons, but I might be mixing up my terms here. Mixing up my people, as well, since I think **Kaitlyn** has referred to her spouse as **Mrs. Catsix**. As for the post in question, as I read it, **Catsix** seems to be pointing out an instance of **KellyM** trying to have it both ways, or something like that. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 4:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/4 "2005-02-06T04:14:32Z")
No, **Kaitlyn** refers to her spouse as “Mrs Six” because her former username was **Number Six**. Personally, that comment of **catsix** s directed at **KellyM** could have been swiped word for word from the Ms boards she so froths about. I think she’s got serious issues-I’ve never seen anyone so hostile towards her own sex. ---
**Author:** ![gobear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/8dc957/32.png) [@gobear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gobear)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/5 "2005-02-06T04:15:25Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > No, **Kaitlyn** refers to her spouse as “Mrs Six” because her former username was **Number Six**. > > Personally, that comment of **catsix** s directed at **KellyM** could have been swiped word for word from the Ms boards she so froths about. > > I think she’s got serious issues-I’ve never seen anyone so hostile towards her own sex. **Catsix** is Camille Paglia? ---
**Author:** ![Una\_Persson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/una_persson/32/346_2.png) [@Una\_Persson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Una_Persson)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/6 "2005-02-06T04:17:01Z")
> [@tripthicket](#): > > Isn’t **Catsix** married to **Kaitlyn**? Good God, no. Kaitlyn’s spouse is not on this Board. ---
**Author:** ![LibrarySpy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f9ae1b/32.png) [@LibrarySpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LibrarySpy)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 4:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/7 "2005-02-06T04:17:53Z")
> [@catsix](#): > > Well neither one of those involve being around a psychotic who thinks that wanting to lose weight is a sympton of self-hatred that should be corrected with psychiatric help but wanting to cut off parts of your body is perfectly normal and sane. Oh for gods sake, call of the PC police. It’s a personal attack, not a condemnation of transexualism. I take away from that statement that she’s calling **KellyM** a bitch. She’s just doing it in her particular, nasty way. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/8 "2005-02-06T04:20:06Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > I think she’s got serious issues-I’ve never seen anyone so hostile towards her own sex. Thank you–I have been taken aback and then appalled at the hostility by **catsix** shown to anyone with XX for chromosomes. I did attempt to point this out to her, but got shot down for it (c’est la vie). It isn’t just in the rape threads, either–it’s in other threads as well, like the male bashing one in IMHO… ---
**Author:** ![tripthicket](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripthicket/32/297_2.png) [@tripthicket](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tripthicket)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/9 "2005-02-06T04:20:21Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > No, **Kaitlyn** refers to her spouse as “Mrs Six” because her former username was **Number Six**. Ah, thanks, I had thought my memory was sputtering on me. ---
**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/10 "2005-02-06T04:21:51Z")
She was making a personal attack on **Kelly** FOR her transsexualism. And don’t give me this PC police jazz. Questioning whether someone is normal and sane for having a sex change operation is not un-PC. It is unforgivably rude. ---
**Author:** ![Lamia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Lamia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lamia)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 4:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/11 "2005-02-06T04:42:49Z")
Nasty little piece of work, isn’t she? ---
**Author:** ![Nightime](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e9c0ed/32.png) [@Nightime](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nightime)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 4:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/12 "2005-02-06T04:49:26Z")
Technically, she didn’t say that transsexuals were abnormal or insane. She said that it was “psychotic” to believe that transsexualism was normal and sane while **simultaneously** believing that wanting to lose weight was abnormal and insane. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/13 "2005-02-06T04:59:35Z")
That was because she once posted that she covered all of her mirrors until she felt that she had lost enough weight. Or something like that. **KellyM** pointed out that was a little extreme. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/14 "2005-02-06T08:25:38Z")
> [@Rilchiam](#): > > In [this reply](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=5804411&postcount=308) to **KellyM** , are you seriously calling her abnormal and insane because she’s a transsexual? > > I’m about to say you’ve gone round the bend, but I won’t state it definitively until I’ve heard your response. Just normal catsix behaviour, she’s a rabid misogynist (just cross reference catsix with feminism or nice guy). Whether the woman in question is a woman born, or a woman made it seems, based on the thread you link to. Really, it’s interesting and wonderfully distracting to watch her go, just enjoy. ---
**Author:** ![Tinkertoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f19dbf/32.png) [@Tinkertoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tinkertoy)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 8:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/15 "2005-02-06T08:39:52Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > Really, it’s interesting and wonderfully distracting to watch her go, just enjoy. Personaly I’d love to watch her go. Just don’t ask me where. ---
**Author:** ![Essured](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Essured](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Essured)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/16 "2005-02-06T08:50:28Z")
**Catsix** has some very strong opinions, and expresses herself in a very blunt manner, granted, but I would not call her a rabid misogynist just because she has different views on various gender-related issues. Re: the quoted post. Until **catsix** clarifies, I will refrain from commenting, since I can see several possibly interpretations of her post. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 8:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/17 "2005-02-06T08:57:22Z")
> [@Tinkertoy](#): > > Personaly I’d love to watch her go. Just don’t ask me where. Awww. Not me, as I said, and have told her to her face…errr screen? I find her odd one sidedness fascinating and trying to figure out what makes her tick is a wonderful distraction from my broken heart. I’m sorry **essured** I don’t know you in the slightest, but we’ll have to agree to disagree, in the threads I’ve seen her participate in (quite a few), she’s shown herself to be very angry, accusatory and rabid where it comes to who is supposedly defenseless and oppressed, and who is supposedly the enemy. Three guesses as to which is which, and the first two don’t count. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/18 "2005-02-06T14:23:37Z")
I can offer some context, because catsix’s comments were part of a conversation I was part of. **catsix** had indicated that she wanted to lose some weight. **KellyM** , who can be pretty strident herself, basically told her that she was fine the way she was; that losing weight was extreme. **catsix** then asked if transgender _surgery_ to change appearance wasn’t just as extreme. I don’t remember when the conversation took place; it did take place in #straightdope IRC chat, however. (The usual disclaimers apply.) I might be misremembering specifics, but this was the gist of it. All it was was a skirmish between two strong-minded people. Robin ---
**Author:** ![TeaElle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8491ac/32.png) [@TeaElle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TeaElle)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/19 "2005-02-06T15:08:41Z")
> [@MsRobyn](#): > > I don’t remember when the conversation took place; it did take place in #straightdope IRC chat, however. So **catsix** was not only being outrageously rude (at a minimum) she was bringing stuff from outside onto the boards. Others (not mentioning any names, just thinking of my favorite ice cream flavor) have been banned for such things, and my understanding is that the mods have specifically frowned on crossovers from #straightdope and LJ. If that really is the source of the problems between those two, then **catsix** seems to be cruising for an official mod reprimand, at the very least. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [February 6, 2005, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607/20 "2005-02-06T15:25:47Z")
> [@](#): > > **Rilchaim** said: > In this reply to KellyM, are you seriously calling her abnormal and insane because she’s a transsexual? Based on a prior conversation (yes, conversation) in which **KellyM** told me that I should seek psychiatric help instead of trying to lose weight because I needed to learn to ‘accept my body the way it is’, I figure she’s got one or two screws loose. If someone who wants to lose weight should seek psychiatric help to learn to accept their body the way it is, but **KellyM** doesn’t, then I’d call that a bit psychotic in addition to being hypocritical. > [@](#): > > **Diogenes** said: > True, it was said in response to a bit of a snipe by KellyM but still, going to the “psychotic” who wants to “cut off parts of your body” line is pretty much over the line. I don’t think it was over the line considering what **KellyM** said about my mental state considering my desire to not be fat. > [@](#): > > **Rilchaim** said: > She was making a personal attack on Kelly FOR her transsexualism. Nope. I was making a personal attack on **KellyM** for having called me fucking nuts because I wanted to change my body, an opinion she obviously continues, when it’s perfectly OK for her to change her body. I happen to be under the impression that a person’s hypocrisy shouldn’t be allowed to stand anywhere. The continued sniping at me because, holy shit, I still disagree with **Maureen** and I said that I’m not a know nothing who should shut my fucking mouth was only compounded by **KellyM** and her personal drive-by that living with me would be the worst thing on earth. I didn’t deserve that response to merely pointing out that some people who disagree with **Maureen** may not be know-nothings who should shut their fucking mouths, they may actually be rape survivors. **KellyM** took a bite at me, and I shot one back _at her_. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-are-you-serious/288607.md?page=2)