# catsix, would you stop being so damn defensive? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 3, 2003, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686 "2003-08-03T05:02:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 8:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/21 "2003-08-03T08:04:12Z")
> [@](#): > > I’m not the first one you’ve said fuck you to. Cite? The archive’s there, guy. I haven’t double-checked, but I am exceedingly parsimonious with my “fuck you”'s. That an expression that will not pass my lips (or my fingertips) unless I am comfortable severing all friendly relations with the person to which it is directed. I’d be very surprised if I’d said such a thing to another Doper and forgotten it. I can only remember being _really_ angry with one other Doper, but I still felt compelled to try to remain civil, and phrase an intelligent argument. I don’t think your position in this thread really merits anything more than a couple of angry monosyllables. > [@](#): > > Now, back to the question… anyone wanna avoid the ever fun name-calling that’s taking place right now and acually address why all the furor over what fellow doper catsix said? No. It’s quite beside the point. This is like responding to expressed outrage engendered by rubbing shit in someone’s face by saying “I did it because she was wearing an ugly hat. Come on, you’ve got to admit-- it _was_ an ugly hat.” Go piss up a rope, you creep. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/22 "2003-08-03T08:06:48Z")
And no, you don’t rate a ‘whom’, either. ---
**Author:** ![aleksia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@aleksia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aleksia)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 9:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/23 "2003-08-03T09:46:51Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \* > \*\*::Cough. Gag. A-hrmmm:: > > Wow. A nutso telling me I need help. I honestly don’t know what that means, but whatever it means, it can’t be good. \*\* **CnoteChris** , sweetie, You are a disgusting human being. I hope You’ll get a crotch fungus, You :wally ---
**Author:** ![RexDart](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/b77776/32.png) [@RexDart](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RexDart)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 9:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/24 "2003-08-03T09:47:04Z")
Well… As I said in the other thread, some people’s personal experiences will make a joke all too real, and take it from the realm of irreverent comedy into that of serious tragedy. I don’t presume to judge those people or their experiences, and cannot naysay their lives. But on the whole, like **catsix** , I’d prefer people shut up about it. And as **Guin** writes and reads “slash” fiction, a genre of poorly written internet stories in which authors’ beloved characters are twisted into sex-craved homosexuals looking for a good random fuck, I don’t think she has any fucking room to call anybody else on having a sense of humour in “bad taste.” The response to **catsix** in the other thread was ridiculous, unwarranted anger. People have different senses of humour, deal with it. The mods/admins of this board have stated their position, and clearly they want a board of a flavor that doesn’t include certain types of humour. It’s within their right to craft the atmosphere of these boards as they see fit. But I don’t see why we should attack a person merely for stating their opinion on this matter. And it’s no surprise to see, once again, **Mockingbird** being a world-class dickhole in this thread. It’s not like I expected anything better. Fuck off and leave sensible people to resolve the issue. At least **Guin** usually deals in reasonable discourse, I can count on her to resolve this disagreement amicably. But you have to throw your needless vitriol about in a thread where you aren’t wanted. So back the fuck off and let us rational adults handle this. ---
**Author:** ![Michael\_Ellis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/977dab/32.png) [@Michael\_Ellis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Michael_Ellis)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 10:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/25 "2003-08-03T10:20:35Z")
Hey Cnote, you’re an embarrasment to people named Chris. ---
**Author:** ![Fenris](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fenris/32/498_2.png) [@Fenris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fenris)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/26 "2003-08-03T12:49:03Z")
Also to people named “Cnote”. Wotta jackass. ---
**Author:** ![omni-not](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8dc957/32.png) [@omni-not](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omni-not)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 1:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/27 "2003-08-03T13:02:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mockingbird \* > \*\*She gets defensive when the wind blows her eyelashes the wrong way. \*\* Now **THAT** , on the other hand, I found to be hilariously funny. Just don’t ask me why. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/28 "2003-08-03T13:54:47Z")
My first Pit thread, eh? > [@](#): > > Did it ever occur to you that perhaps such a joke is in poor taste? Did you see the several times in that thread where I specifically stated that I know different people find different things humorous and that I think there’s nothing wrong with that? Did you notice that I wasn’t the only person in that thread who thought that the joke wasn’t any worse than a lot of other things said on this board? > [@](#): > > But why do you always seem to have to butt into a thread, guns a’blazin, just to tell us how stupid we are, and how YOU aren’t offended, so no one else should be? Could you please copy and paste the part of that thread in which I called anyone stupid and told them not to be offended? Everybody in that thread chimed in with their POV, and so did I. Why is it that out of all the people in that thread, even all the ones who said ‘Gory joke, but not as bad as some of the stuff that’s been on this board’, I was the one who got jumped on? > [@](#): > > It just seems like jarbabyj said-every time there’s a thread, she has to disagree, and seems so defensive all the time. When I speak my opinion, some people (like **jarbabyj** ) show up to insinuate that I only pretend to have that opinion because it’ll get a reaction. I don’t like being accused of trolling, even if it is in a subtle manner. > [@](#): > > **iampunha** said: > Doesn’t the “Because I think it’s funny, it can’t be anything else, let alone offensive, to anyone else” mindset tend to go away some time between learner’s permit and being allowed to drink? And your opinion would be right on, if I had ever said that. I even tried to illustrate that I think there will be things that some people find funny and some don’t with my example about Letterman. How about Adam Sandler? I don’t find him funny, but millions of people do. Then again, I think Steven Wright is hilarious, and others don’t. That’s why there are different jokes and different comedians. If you don’t like the Nick DiPaulo show, don’t go to it. Go see a comedian you like. But please don’t tell me that I’m juvenile because my sense of humor is different from yours. Really guys, how many times do I have to re-state the same damn thing before it sinks in? Everyone is different. Everyone has a different sense of humor. If dark, morbid, sick humor isn’t your thing, that’s fine. It’s your right to be offended by it. Don’t laugh at the joke, express your outrage if you want. But please understand that some of us will laugh, and that it’s not a personal dig against you. I used to think nothing offended me, but I was wrong. Having people suggest I don’t have any honest opinions, that I only exist to pretend I believe whatever will get me attention, it’s the insinuation that I’m a troll. That’s offensive. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/29 "2003-08-03T14:15:33Z")
I read the other (now closed) thread last night, and would have posted there if possible. I thought **Q.E.D., Manhattan, and jarbabyj** all three had a ridiculous response to **catsix**. All catsix did was state that she thought a particular (sick) joke was funny. For this, **Q.E.D.** suggests that she move to another message board, **Manhattan** threatens/implies a banning if she doesn’t “follow the rules”, when she hasn’t broken or threatened to break any rules, and **jarbabyj** writes a parody about trolling. WOW! Now, I’m not aware of any interaction elsewhere, but limited to that thread only, the actions of the above three individuals were way over the top, and the pitting of catsix here is past silly. Post A by **Q.E.D.** : “You want to read and post sick humor? Find a board for that. This one ain’t it.” Post B by Q.E.D.: “Where did anyone say you couldn’t express your opinion here?” Yet, catsix is blasted for expressing the opinion that a particular joke was funny…:rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 2:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/30 "2003-08-03T14:24:02Z")
Gosh, **Guin** , you must have read a different thread than I did. Are you sure you linked to right one? I didn’t see **catsix** attack anyone or anything. I saw plenty of people insulting her left, right, and sideways, though. She said she thought it was funny. She said she wished we could just live and let live, humorwise. There were no guns a’blazing. There was no statement, or even any implication that anyone shouldn’t have been offended, or that people were stupid to not share her sense of humor. Either you need to lay off the hallucinogens, there’s another thread that’s got everyone all worked up, or this is the most ridiculous tempest in a teapot I’ve ever seen. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/31 "2003-08-03T14:37:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by John Carter of Mars \* > \*\* > Post A by **Q.E.D.** : “You want to read and post sick humor? Find a board for that. This one ain’t it.” > > Post B by Q.E.D.: “Where did anyone say you couldn’t express your opinion here?” > > Yet, catsix is blasted for expressing the opinion that a particular joke was funny…:rolleyes: \*\* I don’t see those two statements as being mutually exclusive. Certainly **catsix** is allowed to express her opinion. And so am I. Which I did. End of story. And please don’t stick words in my mouth. I did _not_ suggest she move to another message board. What I _did_ say, you quoted above, and means nothing more or less than what it says. For the functionally illiterate amongst you, I’ll translate, however: “Please post your sick humor elsewhere and only post material that conforms to this board’s standards”. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/32 "2003-08-03T14:42:43Z")
I can’t speak for guin, only myself, and I admit that my reaction to catsix in that thread was a built up reaction to many of her other “opinions”, and was probably not as well thought out as it should have been. I’ve interacted with catsix on and off board for about a year, which has included many feuds and many deeply hurt feelings on both sides. In that time she’s informed me (and several other rape victims) that her method of getting over her rape is really the BEST way, and why are all of us saying that it’s still such a big deal??? She called me STUPID because I said I hated guns and would never own one. I believe she criticized me and others for going to therapy calling all doctors and psychologists “head butchers”. Plus, like myself a few years ago, she has an unnatural and seemingly forced misogynistic streak, in which she is constantly expressing a dislike of women, women who cry, women who have body issues, women who are depressed…WOMEN WHO AREN’T AS TOUGH AS HER. I completely agree that we all have different opinions on this board. The baby punching joke IN MY OPINION was not funny (not even on a morbid humor scale, I mean it wasn’t even really creative or clever, as some disgustingly morbid jokes are), and I WAS ABLE TO SEE how it could be offensive. Catsix found it funny and said **TOO BAD SOME PEOPLE CAN’T INTERPRET A JOKE AS A JOKE** , which, in my OPINION was her way of telling us she has this superior intellect that allows her to process thoughts and words better than us lowly peons who are less developed in the humor world. Perhaps, and I know that this is my case, I saw that it was a joke, and guess what…it was still…fucking…offensive…to me. In my OPINION, catsix wanted to show off her tough, callused, woman of the world attitude by saying that jokes about abuse induced miscarriage are funny, and it’s too bad all of us are unable to find that funny too, because whatever SHE says is ultimately right. Just my opinion. ---
**Author:** ![fruitbat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fruitbat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fruitbat)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/33 "2003-08-03T14:51:21Z")
Yet another person breaking his silence to say that **catsix** didn’t do anything wrong. More than that, I woud say the response she got was obnoxious. I have seen the easily offended in full regalia before, but this is shameful. I would especially like to hear **Manhattan’s** explanation of his posts in that thread. He didn’t seem to realize that **catsix** never posted anything offensive. Pitting **Anal Scurvy** was understandable. I could see that coming. **Guin** though chose to open a separate thread to pit someone for saying she thought the joke was funny. Maybe you need to get much thicker skin. Yes humor does differ. There are thousands of different viewpoints represented here and thousands of different ways to offend someone. There is a small group of posters who like to remind us just how much they are being offended on a regular basis. I will take it for granted in the future that dark humor of any kind is unwanted. I would only hope that some would find it in themselves to live and let live. Just once read a bad off color joke and let it pass without comment. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/34 "2003-08-03T14:55:03Z")
I’ve always wanted my very own pit thread. Maybe I can get one outta this. I think dead baby jokes are heelarious. Hellen Keller jokes? Funnieee! The councilmember shooting in City Hall here in New York a week ago; Elizabeth Smart; my daughter’s head, toe and hand stitches (I expect a visit from child protection services any minute now); conjoined twins—all the object of my derisive humor. Unlike **Anal Scurvy** (not the object of this pitting) I never posted any of these sad, sick jokes. But now I’ve admited that I find them funny do I get my own pitting? I mean **catsix** didn’t _tell_ the stupid joke, she only said she found it funny (and from where I read, she was unfailing polite in the process) and here we all are. (And if I may jump in on the other pile-on going on in this thread-- **Cnote** , the survey results indicate that you are being a very large diarrhea spewing ass.) (If nothing else I should be pitted for my excessive use of parenthases) ---
**Author:** ![fruitbat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fruitbat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fruitbat)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/35 "2003-08-03T14:57:58Z")
**Jarbabyj** I appreciate the explanation. Just realize that if there is baggage between two posters that informs your posts you need to let us know that. Reading the thread at face value I fail to see any way **catsix** was being offensive. You don’t know me from Adam. If I were to post that I found the joke funny and I wish people could let me be to enjoy my gallows humor I doubt there would be any reaction beyond a mild difference of opinion. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 3:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/36 "2003-08-03T15:01:18Z")
There’s a difference between saying “I think the joke was funny” and saying “too bad some people can’t interpret a joke as a joke” which to me translates into “if you all weren’t so dumb, you would think it was funny too.” which means if we don’t think it’s funny, (even if we ARE able to interpret it as a joke) then we’re stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/37 "2003-08-03T15:02:18Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \* > \*\*There’s a difference between saying “I think the joke was funny” and saying “too bad some people can’t interpret a joke as a joke” which to me translates into “if you all weren’t so dumb, you would think it was funny too.” which means if we don’t think it’s funny, (even if we ARE able to interpret it as a joke) then we’re stupid. \*\* Exactly. I couldn’t have said it better. ---
**Author:** ![fruitbat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/58f4c7/32.png) [@fruitbat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fruitbat)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/38 "2003-08-03T15:06:45Z")
Really though no one cares whether you find it funny. The point of contention is why you can’t accept that someone else might find it funny. ---
**Author:** ![omni-not](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8dc957/32.png) [@omni-not](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/omni-not)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/39 "2003-08-03T15:08:37Z")
“3 a : that quality which appeals to a sense of the ludicrous or absurdly incongruous b : the mental faculty of discovering, expressing, or appreciating the ludicrous or absurdly incongruous c : something that is or is designed to be comical or amusing synonym see WIT” Wit: “b : the ability to relate seemingly disparate things so as to illuminate or amuse c (1) : a talent for banter or persiflage (2) : a witty utterance or exchange d : clever or apt humor” ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/40 "2003-08-03T15:10:19Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by fruitbat \* > \*\*Really though no one cares whether you find it funny. The point of contention is why you can’t accept that someone else might find it funny. \*\* No, the point of contention is if you find something funny that I don’t _don’t fucking call me stupid for it!_. Is that clear enough for you? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686.md?page=3)