# catsix, would you stop being so damn defensive? **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 3, 2003, 5:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686 "2003-08-03T05:02:11Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/41 "2003-08-03T15:10:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \* > \*\*There’s a difference between saying “I think the joke was funny” and saying “too bad some people can’t interpret a joke as a joke” which to me translates into “if you all weren’t so dumb, you would think it was funny too.” which means if we don’t think it’s funny, (even if we ARE able to interpret it as a joke) then we’re stupid. \*\* Well, it was a joke. A bad, stupid joke but a joke nonetheless. For the record, let’s put **catsix’s** entire quote right here so we can all make our own interpretations. > [@](#): > > I thought the joke was funny, and it was quite obvious it was a joke. > > Too bad some people can’t just let other people enjoy their gallows and morbid humor in peace. Nope, don’t see anything about anybody not liking the joke being dumb. Nothing about everybody else having to like the joke either. Somebody’s being defensive and it ain’t **catsix**. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/42 "2003-08-03T15:14:48Z")
Sorry biggirl, but I’m going with this quote, a couple posts down: > [@](#): > > I just know how to interpret a joke as a joke. ---
**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/43 "2003-08-03T15:15:37Z")
> [@](#): > > _originally posted by aleksia_ > **CnoteChris, sweetie, You are a disgusting human being. I hope You’ll get a crotch fungus, you putz.** You know, Jock itch instead of crotch itch would’ve been funnier there, but who am I to say what’s funny or not. (Wait a minute, apparently we’re able to do that here. Right?) That’s the crux of the argument, isn’t it? Do you find it funny? Yeah? Great. Knock youself out. No. OK. Time for a lashing. Personally, I didn’t find it to be the end all, be all, example of great humor, but who fucking cares? The girldfreind liked it-- which is key to the joke, I guess-- but that doesn’t apparently mean anything. We’re on a rampage here! That, I guess, is the part that I’m having a hard time understanding. I mean, OK. We’re all, in a way, thinking it was a totally inapropriate joke. The words, in and of themselves, are offensive and… ‘off’, to a point. A great many people (Myself included, if you don’t happen to know my history) happen to agree with the notion that women, whoever they are, shouldn’t be forced to do things they don’t want. Nothing nutso there, right? I mean, come on, who out there wants things like that to happen to another person? Certainly not me, despite what others might imply (I mean, really, “…you’re an embarrasment to people named Chris”? Shoot. All this time, I thought was such a savior to people named Chris. You know, we’re such a branded bunch… the one’s that didn’t have imaginative parents. Maybe if I had the name ‘Mike’, I’d understand). And all of this (I guess that’s why I put the above in an aside, because it’s so outside the topic it doesn’t seem relevant) is pretty besides the point, isn’t it? I mean, really, aren’t we sitting here arguing why such a jackass as catsix could come in and actually agree that the OP of that thread wasn’t necessarilly the end all, be all, definition of assholerly? Is that it? Really? Wow. I’m just not getting it. Come on people, the joke was how the girlfriend took it, not how it was presented. Do you really need people around here to explain it to you, or would you rather have your jerking knee get in the way of it all? Apparently you would, because looking at these boards, as I’m looking at them today, all I see is complete, and total, knee jerking reactions without a seconds thought to what actually is going on, or being said. What a pity. And how said. This board suddenly (And without surprise, to those that complained about it when it was happening, like me) turned into a PC police board. Say what **we** think, or… feel our wrath. If you don’t, we’ll have you 'hooted off of here within a minute, just you wait and see. It may be easy, like a second username (In which case we’ll be all over your ass, pointing out the user agreement that says you shouldn’t do that, regardless, for any reason, and quietly giggle to ourselves at how funny your error was), or it may be direct and outright violation. Whatever the case, we’ll get your ass outta here 'toot sweet. Jerk? You’re gone. Don’t post something we like? Gone. We don’t care to explain the rules to you, because, you know, we don’t need to, or want to. We want to be abitrary as hell, because not doing so is a pain in the ass. Don’t like that? Don’t let the door hit you on the ass. ??? Wait a minute, where was I? Oh, yeah. The outrageous comments that **catsix** made and why not only a moderator needed to admonish her, but a whole, complete, pit thread needed to be made about her too. Once again, give me a fucking break. Are some of you people so bored, so tired, so pathetic, that you actually need to not only attack someone within the thread, who simply agreed that the OP 's statement could be taken humorously, without all the negative conotations, but you also need to start a thread on horrible a person may or may not be? Once again, fucking unreal, bullshit, and completely without merit or compuction. Jesus. Get something real to get worked up over. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/44 "2003-08-03T15:16:36Z")
This is not the place to continue off-board disagreements, so I will not comment on them other than to say that there exist off board disagreements between **jarbabyj** and myself. I don’t think that those disagreements have a place here, and so I’m not going to turn this into a ‘Yeah, but that was after you said…’ kind of thing. Arguments happen, people have differences of opinion, and this forum is really big, big enough, I think, that regardless of any off board opinions, **jarbabyj** and I can peacefully co-exist here. I’m not asking anyone to like me. Those who don’t are certainly entitled to their dislike. There will always be people that you (general) don’t like on these boards, and that extends to myself. There are posters I don’t like. I will, however, attempt to be civil, and I do feel bad about it when I lose my temper. I have tried not to bring off board baggage here, and I’m sorry if some of my posts have been misinterpreted. I can speak only for myself, and what I believe. Maybe someone will find my opinion useful, and maybe not. It’s offered as another perspective, not intended to force anyone to think the way I do or deride those who disagree. If anyone knows how I can be more clear about that, please tell me. I can’t stop, and don’t wish to stop, anyone from posting what they really think, or what they really think of me. I hope for civility, though. I also hope that off-board baggage can be left off board. I don’t know what else to do. ---
**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/45 "2003-08-03T15:23:45Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by jarbabyj \* > \*\*Sorry biggirl, but I’m going with this quote, a couple posts down: > > > [@](#): > > > > I just know how to interpret a joke as a joke. > > \*\* Oh, you mean her response to **QED** asking her if she was on crack? Pretty mild and civil in relation to the provocation, if you ask me. Yeup, _somebody’s_ being defensive, all right. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 3:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/46 "2003-08-03T15:27:24Z")
> [@](#): > > **jarbabyj** said: > There’s a difference between saying “I think the joke was funny” and saying “too bad some people can’t interpret a joke as a joke” which to me translates into “if you all weren’t so dumb, you would think it was funny too.” which means if we don’t think it’s funny, (even if we ARE able to interpret it as a joke) then we’re stupid. Not at all what I was trying to say. For example: I realize that most of what comes out of Adam Sandler’s mouth is a joke. He’s trying to be humorous. The recognition that he is telling jokes doesn’t cause the jokes to be funny, though, and most of the time that my friends who like AS are laughing their asses off, I’m sitting there wondering what the hell is so funny. Instead of pissing on their parade, when they start up with the AS CDs and movies, I either go find something else to do, or I just hang out quietly and understand that there are things I enjoy that some of them don’t, and they don’t piss on my parade either. It doesn’t bother me if they say ‘No, I don’t want to go see Mitch Hedberg because I think he’s just a loser stoner and he’s not at all funny.’ Again, recognizing that a joke is a joke does not equate to finding the joke funny. However, sometimes I think it’s a shame when people say ‘That wasn’t funny to me, so you shouldn’t tell jokes like that.’ instead of ‘That wasn’t funny to me, so I’m going to leave you guys to your humor and me to mine.’ I don’t find fault with anyone who doesn’t like sick humor. There is room in this world for all senses of humor, and all opinions. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/47 "2003-08-03T15:32:46Z")
By **Q.E.D.** : “You want to read and post sick humor? Find a board for that. This one ain’t it.” Follow-up by Q.E.D.: “For the functionally illiterate amongst you, I’ll translate, however: ‘Please post your sick humor elsewhere and only post material that conforms to this board’s standards’.” Taken in the original context, I don’t find those two statements synonymous, **Q.E.D.** Your original statement has the: “If you don’t like it here, get the hell out” flavor to it. I see it still says “member” beneath your name, not “god”, “mod” or “admin”. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/48 "2003-08-03T15:35:13Z")
Flavor, schmavor. I said what I meant. And **manhattan** who _is_ a mod agreed with me. If I’d meant “get the hell out” I would would have said that. ---
**Author:** ![Sylkyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/da6949/32.png) [@Sylkyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sylkyn)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/49 "2003-08-03T15:39:45Z")
**catsix** , I think you’ve more than explained yourself here and FWIW you certainly didn’t merit a pit thread. I get where you’re coming from, and while I didn’t think the joke was “funny”, I, too, understood it was a joke. I didn’t think it was unfunny because of the subject matter, per se, I just didn’t think it was a _funny joke_. I also think **CnoteChris** is making some good points, even if he does sound a trifle put off by it all. 😉 Sometimes you just can’t help being exasperated. But if it was me being pitted over this crap, I’d let that last post be my last post (in this thread). This whole buncha crap is way too trivial in the grand scheme of things to slide into a trainwreck. ---
**Author:** ![hardygrrl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a3d4f5/32.png) [@hardygrrl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hardygrrl)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/50 "2003-08-03T15:53:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Guinastasia \* > \*\*It’s not so much about that thread. Do a search on her posts. > > It just seems like **jarbabyj** said-every time there’s a thread, she has to disagree, and seems so defensive all the time. > > Gah, calm down already. \*\* What gets my thong in a wad is when she decides that **she is right despite evidence to the contrary** and talks down to the peons who dare disagree. Do I have an example? Why [yes I do!](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=172821&highlight=fraud) In this thread, she proceeded to tell me how credit card companies work. Amazing how she knows more than me, _the person who has worked at a major issuer for over five years._ The cardmember agreement? Pfft. She does not have to follow a contract! There’s always room for debating opinions (as well as Jello). Facts, OTOH, are not debatable. I have a feeling that if a thread was started “Water - IT’S WET!”, along would come **cattysix** to argue that it was in fact dry and anyone who dared disagree was lacking somehow. Admitting you’re wrong - it’s a Good Thing. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 4:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/51 "2003-08-03T16:03:17Z")
Was **catsix** a jerk in that thread? IMHO, no. But has she done some of the things the OP accuses her of? Yes! I clearly remember when **Guin** was complaining of menstrual cramps and **catsix** told her she thought women who complain of cramps are whining wimps (or something like this). Why? Because she doesn’t suffer from bad cramps. Thus, this means that other women don’t really suffer during their periods. I thought it was very ignorant to belittle **Guin’s** pain like that. I think the OP is the unfortunate result of an accumulation of tension. **catsix** often come across as having issues with women. Sometimes it bugs me too. But like I said, I don’t think her gaff in that thread was so big as to warrant a pile-on. ---
**Author:** ![aleksia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/91b2a8/32.png) [@aleksia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aleksia)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/52 "2003-08-03T16:42:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by CnoteChris \* > \*\*You know, Jock itch instead of crotch itch would’ve been funnier there, but who am I to say what’s funny or not. > snip > Get something real to get worked up over. \*\* Well, I thought I did find something real to get worked up over. While Anal Scurvy’s joke was bad taste, he honestly meant it as a joke. You did not. You attacked Guinastasia the lowest way possible, and it just crossed me out. Of course, in sudden anger I answered on Your level, which is embarrassing. I apologize to Guinastasia, who can protect herself, and will do that, when she finds it appropriate. But You? Eh. And crotch vs jock? Whatever. English is my third language, and I’m just happy when I get my point through. ---
**Author:** ![tiny\_ham](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a183cd/32.png) [@tiny\_ham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tiny_ham)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/53 "2003-08-03T17:07:24Z")
catsix, I have no wish to rehash our disagreements either, but the stuff I brought up (just to be clear) all happened on board, and monstro’s example of the bad cramps thread is another example. I understand your explanation now of what you meant by what you said and in some aspects I agree with you (pissing on a parade when you have no real dog in it, for example). I apologize if what I said triggered this pile on, but please try and remember I didn’t start this thread, I was content to have the other thread be locked and over with having said my piece. ---
**Author:** ![CnoteChris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/278dde/32.png) [@CnoteChris](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CnoteChris)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/54 "2003-08-03T17:22:31Z")
> [@](#): > > _originally posted byaleska[_ > **You attacked Guinastasia the lowest way possible, and it just crossed me out. Of course, in sudden anger I answered on Your level, which is embarrassing** Oh come on, you felt good giving me shit, admit it. Listen, you’re all over me giving shit about this or that, I’m sure that some is deserved, but what about the fucking OP? Regardless of my jabs, which the OP obviously felt was apart of her initial attack (What, am I supposed ignore the attacks on a person that I think is in the right? Come on!), what, or why, do you think the OP is right? Let’s go, toe to toe, on why the catsix post was so outrageous that it not only warrants a mod admonishment, it deservers shit tossed her way. I’ve been waiting, and wondering, since page one, why this is such a big ass thing to be persuing. Ex-fucking-plain it to me. Don’t sit here and say that because I went after the OP because she’s on meds I can’t go after her with the same vigor she went after the target of her OP. If you do that, you’re about as pathetic as the OP that won’t respond to the questions asked of her. Once again, bullshit logic leads a person to post shit they can’t respond to. ---
**Author:** ![Shaolinrabbit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Shaolinrabbit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shaolinrabbit)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/55 "2003-08-03T17:23:28Z")
Emotional baggage and past resentments aside (Hey, maybe **Catsix** is a bitch, I don’t know.), it appears that she did nothing wrong in that particular thread. The following quotes are taken in full and in order: > [@](#): > > _Catsix_ > I thought the joke was funny, and it was quite obvious it was a joke. > > Too bad some people can’t just let other people enjoy their gallows and morbid humor in peace. > [@](#): > > _Q.E.D._ > A joke about punching a pregnant woman in the stomach to induce abortion is funny? Are you on crack? I have as sick a sense of humor as anyone, but that was over the line even for me. > > You want to read and post sick humor? Find a board for that. This one ain’t it. _A joke about punching a pregnant woman in the stomach to induce abortion is funny? Are you on crack?_ This, as near as I can tell, is the first instance of a specific, directed attack. **Catsix** uses ‘some people’, **Q.E.D.** responds with a personal attack on her sense of humor. Sorry, **Q.E.D.** , but I don’t think that could be taken any other way. > [@](#): > > _Catsix_ > Yeah, it was funny. > > Especially since it seemed pretty fucking clear that the girlfriend didn’t have a problem with the joke. > > And no, I’m not on crack, I just know how to interpret a joke as a joke. By the way, when did you gain the authority to tell me where to post and where to read? _Now_ **Catsix** is defending her sense of humor in a direct reply to **Q.E.D.**'s attack. As I see it, this is a response to _him_ personally, not a blanket statement about everyone involved. If she’d have said ‘Fuck you’, it wouldn’t have applied to anyone in the thread but **Q.E.D.**. > [@](#): > > _Manhattan_ > I’ve got just such authority. Do you intend to follow our rules or not? Given the previous exchange, this is a tad bizarre, but I take it as **Manhattan** saying, enjoy your gallows humor, but not here. (i.e. This is too out there for the standards of this board.) Although I can see how it seems like an innappropriate comment, or just busting chops, it seems well placed to me. All I can say beyond that is that not having a personal issue with **Catsix** , I didn’t see any slight in her initial comment, and it seems those who did had previous issues with her. ---
**Author:** ![Jessity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jessity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jessity)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/56 "2003-08-03T18:04:12Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Q.E.D. \* > \*\*Flavor, schmavor. I said what I meant. And **manhattan** who _is_ a mod agreed with me. If I’d meant “get the hell out” I would would have said that. \*\* Manny agreeing with you doesn’t make you automatically right. Ah well, I’m not surprised at your assholish behavior, given that I’ve read tons of GQ threads you’ve Googled the answer to and been called on it and then gotten shitty with those who’ve ‘proved you wrong’, so to speak. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/57 "2003-08-03T18:13:13Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Jessity \* > \*\*Manny agreeing with you doesn’t make you automatically right. > > Ah well, I’m not surprised at your assholish behavior, given that I’ve read tons of GQ threads you’ve Googled the answer to and been called on it and then gotten shitty with those who’ve ‘proved you wrong’, so to speak. \*\* Link? ---
**Author:** ![Jessity](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c67d28/32.png) [@Jessity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jessity)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 6:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/58 "2003-08-03T18:31:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Q.E.D. \* > \*\*Link? \*\* Certainly. But probably not for a few hours, as I have a job and a life and such. Also, it’ll take some time and hamster energy to wade through your 48-posts-a-day-habit. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/59 "2003-08-03T18:43:21Z")
Well, it shouldn’t take you _that_ long. After all you’ve seen “tons” of threads, right? Or maybe you’re full of shit and overstating your case just a wee bit. Or your definition of “shitty” is a great deal different than mine. Or “tons”, for that matter. ---
**Author:** ![monstro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ba9def/32.png) [@monstro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/monstro)\ **Post date:** [August 3, 2003, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686/60 "2003-08-03T19:00:48Z")
Nitpick: **Q.E.D** has a 27.17 post-a-day habit. Not 48. Someone with a 48 post-a-day habit is in serious need of 12 Step Program. Either that or a job. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-would-you-stop-being-so-damn-defensive/192686.md?page=4)