# Catsix, You're a Moron With a Persecution Complex and I'm Sick of It **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 9, 2004, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959 "2004-08-09T01:06:05Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![EddyTeddyFreddy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eddyteddyfreddy/32/18796_2.png) [@EddyTeddyFreddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EddyTeddyFreddy)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 3:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/21 "2004-08-09T03:45:22Z")
And what do cattle, sheep, pigs, chickens eat? Why, they eat vegetable matter! Hay, grain, and other crops grown specifically to feed them. Even pastured meat animals are fed hay in the winter, and grain in the fattening for slaughter stage. Untold thousands of animals die every time those feed crops are harvested. So one could argue that eating meat in fact increases the slaughter of innocent animals greatly out of proportion to the killing caused by vegetarianism. And yes, **catsix** , I am indeed pointing this out in a deliberate attempt to put you down. My one goal on this board is to harp on and on about stuff that pisses you off. How’m I doing? :wally ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/22 "2004-08-09T03:46:35Z")
Well, it seems there’s at least one person who is denying that vegetable farming kills animals. > [@](#): > > **JThunder** said: > Please tell me you’re not serious about believing that. > > And if you are… cite, please? Employment on farm, 1994 to 1997. ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 3:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/23 "2004-08-09T03:48:40Z")
> [@](#): > > **EddyTeddyFreddy** said: > And yes, catsix, I am indeed pointing this out in a deliberate attempt to put you down. My one goal on this board is to harp on and on about stuff that pisses you off. > > How’m I doing? Well if the goal is pissing me off, you’re failing miserably. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e47c2d/32.png) [@Biffy\_the\_Elephant\_Shrew](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biffy_the_Elephant_Shrew)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/24 "2004-08-09T03:57:55Z")
In the spirit of _“Tout comprendre, c’est tout pardonner,”_ I’d like to point out that **catsix** may have a better excuse than your average veggie-basher for the chip on her shoulder. I thought I remembered her name from a previous **Vegetarians are eeeee-vil** thread ([here](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=200567)), and sure enough, she’s the one who revealed: > [@catsix](#): > > I am a meat-eating person who cannot consume large quantities of carbohydrates (which means that dishes based on rice, bread, pasta, potato, or any other kind of carb can at most be a side dish for me), I’m allergic to soy, tofu, mushrooms, and black beans. In later posts in the thread **catsix** adds olives, spinach, and other types of beans to the list of proscribed foods. And she’s not talking about breaking out into a rash, but serious anaphylaxis: > [@catsix](#): > > I suppose I could say that I’d be offended if someone brought tofu and mushrooms into my home knowing that it’s extremely dangerous for me to eat them, and I could consider it a callous disregard for the fact that a carelessly placed mushroom could make me extremely sick, but I don’t. > It’s not an ethical principle that keeps me from eating these foods, it’s the fact that I like being able to breathe […] Finally, and to the point, she describes her own diet: > [@catsix](#): > > I avoid salads if at all possible because people like to throw in things like mushrooms, olives, tofu chunks, and soy based bacon bits that I can’t eat. I don’t eat salad at restaurants for that reason. I don’t eat breakfast on a regular basis, but when I do, I eat eggs, typically just scrambled with no toast. I have pepperoni and cheese or some other type of meat and cheese for lunch, and for dinner I eat meat (beef, chicken, pork, fish, shellfish, duck, etc) with some sort of non-starchy vegetable. > [@catsix](#): > > I eat meat, lots of it, at least twice a day. > > I have specifically stated the types of food that I do subsist on in this thread, and did you notice that they’re highly animal based? > > Eggs, fish, beef, pork, chicken, duck, goose, shellfish, cheese, ostrich, bison, venison, etc. Now doesn’t that explain a lot? I mean, _damn!!!_ If you had to live on a diet like that, you’d be constipated too! ---
**Author:** ![Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/54ee81/32.png) [@Kneepants\_Erasmus\_the\_Humanist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kneepants_Erasmus_the_Humanist)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/25 "2004-08-09T04:07:55Z")
Christ…my whole point about the cucumber truck running over the cat was that that is something that is coincidential. Yes it sucks. I am sure a tractor ran over a rabbit a few times. I am not eating the dead rabbit. I AM NOT EATING THE RABBIT THAT WAS KILLED BY THE TRACTOR…OR WHATEVER IT WAS THAT KILLED IT IN YOUR LITTLE SCENARIO…or whatever. Me eating a cucumber, again…more slowly and with more feeling…_did not kill the cat that was run over by the truck._ Therefore I didn’t kill the cat. I didn’t want it killed. In order for you to eat a steak, you have to want a cow to be killed…that’s the only way you will get a steak. I feel like an idiot for actually putting time into arguing with you. It’s like screaming at a brickwall. Oh, and I am still better than you. Nyyeah nyyeah. ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/26 "2004-08-09T04:10:56Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > Please tell me you’re not serious about believing that. > > And if you are… cite, please? What, you think a wheat thresher is smart enough to spare mice, insects, snakes and whatever else might decide to make its home in a field? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Dog80](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/6bbea6/32.png) [@Dog80](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dog80)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 4:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/27 "2004-08-09T04:13:05Z")
> [@brianjedi](#): > > **catsix** is female. **Soapbox Monkey** is female too ---
**Author:** ![DoperChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a9a28c/32.png) [@DoperChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoperChic)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/28 "2004-08-09T04:30:22Z")
> [@Biffy the Elephant Shrew](#): > > Now doesn’t that explain a lot? I mean, _damn!!!_ If you had to live on a diet like that, you’d be constipated too! OMG Biffy. I haven’t laughed that hard in days. Thank you. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 4:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/29 "2004-08-09T04:40:56Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > Please tell me you’re not serious about believing that. > > And if you are… cite, please? Why “Watership Down” of course!!! And her cites to prove that all feminists are pschoticswho want to rid the earth of men “The Handmaiden’s Tale” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 4:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/30 "2004-08-09T04:44:51Z")
Be nice to catshit. It can’t be easy being constantly constipated. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/31 "2004-08-09T05:04:50Z")
> [@Mockingbird](#): > > Be nice to catshit. It can’t be easy being constantly constipated. Catsix is very interesting. Never boring (that I’ve seen). ---
**Author:** ![xcheopis](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/bc8723/32.png) [@xcheopis](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xcheopis)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/32 "2004-08-09T06:17:19Z")
> [@JThunder](#): > > Please tell me you’re not serious about believing that. > > And if you are… cite, please? While I am in no way endorsing anything else said by **catsix** , this is, in fact, true. “Animals” includes such critters as worms, insects, mice and so forth; all of whom have their habitats destroyed whenever fields are converted to wheat farming. (Or corn or whatever.) I believe grain farming also disrupts the nitrogen-fixation cycle, what with the loss of critical micro-organisms and fungi. ---
**Author:** ![Soapbox\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ed655f/32.png) [@Soapbox\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soapbox_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/33 "2004-08-09T06:20:53Z")
> [@Dog80](#): > > **Soapbox Monkey** is female too [_cough_](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=251801) No, I’m not. ---
**Author:** ![Mockingbird](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c68b51/32.png) [@Mockingbird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mockingbird)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/34 "2004-08-09T07:03:59Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > Catsix is very interesting. Never boring (that I’ve seen). How nice that you accessorize your canvas shoes with a tinfoil hat. ---
**Author:** ![CanvasShoes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/74df32/32.png) [@CanvasShoes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CanvasShoes)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/35 "2004-08-09T07:41:33Z")
> [@Mockingbird](#): > > How nice that you accessorize your canvas shoes with a tinfoil hat. What are you talking about? How does catsix being interesting have anything to do with your annoyance of me on another thread? And I thought that insulting someone in a separate thread for what you disagree with them on in another was frowned upon. Particularly since you were disagreeing with something you ThOUGHT I was saying, rather than what I was actually saying. ---
**Author:** ![SnakeSpirit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snakespirit/32/7271_2.png) [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 9:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/36 "2004-08-09T09:50:09Z")
> [@SnakeSpirit](#): > > because you think you are better than everyone else. > [@Marley23](#): > > Seriously, it’s just you. Aha! So you admit you are not better than **catsix**! I knew it. Frankly, I agree with you. \*\*catsix \*\* leaves you in the dust. ---
**Author:** ![SnakeSpirit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snakespirit/32/7271_2.png) [@SnakeSpirit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SnakeSpirit)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 10:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/37 "2004-08-09T10:24:05Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > What are you talking about? How does catsix being interesting have anything to do with your annoyance of me on another thread? And I thought that insulting someone in a separate thread for what you disagree with them on in another was frowned upon. > > Particularly since you were disagreeing with something you ThOUGHT I was saying, rather than what I was actually saying. **marley23** is like that, but it is universally denied by **marley23** ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/38 "2004-08-09T10:33:17Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > What are you talking about? How does catsix being interesting have anything to do with your annoyance of me on another thread? And I thought that insulting someone in a separate thread for what you disagree with them on in another was frowned upon. > > Particularly since you were disagreeing with something you ThOUGHT I was saying, rather than what I was actually saying. Total agreement. **JThunder** , in post #20 proves he’s only concerned with the “cute” animals. What about the worms?!? **JT** , I can’t see any reasonable vegetarian defending this. Here’s my challenge to you. Now be quick as it’s close to time to make a Denver Omelet for my wife. Which animals are you trying to save in your little misguided crusade? Against animal abuse? Yeah, us non-psychos are for that, too. Now give us some answers. Cite? I worked on a farm growing wheat, sunflowers, sugar beets, barley, and potatoes from 1995-2001. Operating tractors, combines, semis, sprayers, and tillers. Here’s a nasty little secret for you. If it was grown in a field, there were “extras” that were counted as a percentage against total load in the hopper. Ever hear of the “rodent droppings” in cereals years ago? They weren’t all from rats in the mills. And they weren’t all “droppings”. There is shit in your food you don’t want to know about. And if you think being vegetarian (or even vegan) gives you any comfort, you better wake up, pal. If you eat, you’re indirectly responsible for animal deaths. But keep lying to yourself and your buddies that you’re better than us. Us workers that actually produce food for you to live know better. And that’s all the ignorance fighting I need at times. :wally ---
**Author:** ![catsix](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e19b73/32.png) [@catsix](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/catsix)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 11:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/39 "2004-08-09T11:02:47Z")
Isn’t it a little dishonest to say that a person’s not responsible for the death of something else because they didn’t want it to die while still supporting the industry that brought about its demise? Animals die so people get to live. That’s not going to change or stop by eating vegetables instead of meat, it’s just going to mean that different animals are dead. Not that it’s anybody’s business here, but I don’t get constipated. Don’t think I have ever been, actually. ---
**Author:** ![Essured](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/278dde/32.png) [@Essured](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Essured)\ **Post date:** [August 9, 2004, 11:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959/40 "2004-08-09T11:03:01Z")
> [@CanvasShoes](#): > > And I thought that insulting someone in a separate thread for what you disagree with them on in another was frowned upon. > [@CanvasShoes](#): > > And her cites to prove that all feminists are pschoticswho want to rid the earth of men “The Handmaiden’s Tale”. 😕 [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/catsix-youre-a-moron-with-a-persecution-complex-and-im-sick-of-it/258959.md?page=3)