# Caucuses and primaries - Saturday March 5, 2016

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 5, 2016, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056 "2016-03-05T23:07:04Z")\
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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/21 "2016-03-06T00:45:45Z")

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Why is Cruz Kansas’ hope and why wasn’t he killing in the polls?

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/22 "2016-03-06T00:47:23Z")

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Kansas reports are final. Cruz won 48% of the vote, and 26 delegates, Trump 11, Rubio 3. So he narrows Trump’s delegate lead, but not enough to make any real difference.

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**Author:** ![Locrian](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/locrian/32/14146_2.png) [@Locrian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Locrian)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/23 "2016-03-06T00:48:20Z")

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Right now I’m hoping the Blue Moon of Kentucky DON’T keep shinin’. Trumpy just gained 1,000 votes. :smack:

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**Author:** ![KarlGauss](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/karlgauss/32/3713_2.png) [@KarlGauss](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/KarlGauss)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/24 "2016-03-06T00:48:40Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Why is Cruz Kansas’ hope and why wasn’t he killing in the polls?

I think the more interesting question is why was Cruz _losing_ in the polls just 48 hours ago, yet emerged (clearly) victorious today? What changed? (Or did, in fact, nothing change?)

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/25 "2016-03-06T00:54:27Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Right now I’m hoping the Blue Moon of Kentucky DON’T keep shinin’. Trumpy just gained 1,000 votes. :smack:

The urban areas of Kentucky haven’t reported yet. Louisville, Lexington/Frankfurt, suburbs of Cincinnati. I’ve got to say, I think they’ll go for Trump. I’d give him Kentucky right now.

Maine is stalled out again, this time at 9% reporting.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/26 "2016-03-06T00:55:53Z")

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The [Green Papers](http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/KS-R) are saying that Cruz will pick up 24 delegates from Kansas, Trump 9, Rubio 6, Kasich 1.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/27 "2016-03-06T01:01:14Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Rubio and Kasich will finish 3rd and 4th in all states reporting so far. Both of them will drop out after they lose their home state, and it will be Trump vs. Cruz to the finish.

It’s beginning to look that way. Rubio will likely drop out if and when he loses Florida, which by current polling seems likely. Kasich may as well drop out now. And it will be down to a two-way race between, literally, two crazies. Just amazing!

Trump is catching up in Maine but at 9% reporting Cruz still has a substantial margin.

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/28 "2016-03-06T01:03:46Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> The [Green Papers](http://www.thegreenpapers.com/P16/KS-R) are saying that Cruz will pick up 24 delegates from Kansas, Trump 9, Rubio 6, Kasich 1.

OK. I’m reporting via CNN. If somebody else has better information, I have no problem with that.

And on research, I now see that CNN has changed their count. So much for me being a reliable source.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/29 "2016-03-06T01:04:16Z")

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> [@Frank](#):
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> Rubio and Kasich will finish 3rd and 4th in all states reporting so far. Both of them will drop out after they lose their home state, and it will be Trump vs. Cruz to the finish.

And Trump wins.

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/30 "2016-03-06T01:11:24Z")

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> [@Peremensoe](#):
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> And Trump wins.

A majority, or a plurality?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/31 "2016-03-06T01:15:57Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> Why is Cruz Kansas’ hope and why wasn’t he killing in the polls?

The imperial power of the Republican leadership. They commanded: Don’t vote for Trump! So, they didn’t.

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**Author:** ![Peremensoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ce7236/32.png) [@Peremensoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Peremensoe)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/32 "2016-03-06T01:20:52Z")

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> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> A majority, or a plurality?

With only one opponent, I expect he’ll get a majority. Sure, some of the votes that would have accrued to Rubio and Kasich will go to Cruz, but some will go to Trump, and some will stay home.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/33 "2016-03-06T01:27:14Z")

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With 24% reporting in Kentucky, Trump’s up by 42-31.

(Google ‘Kentucky caucus’ and the numbers pop up, sourced to AP.)

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**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/34 "2016-03-06T01:31:13Z")

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CNN is calling Kansas for Sanders, with 0% of the vote in.

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**Author:** ![Lakai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/9de0a6/32.png) [@Lakai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lakai)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/35 "2016-03-06T01:35:05Z")

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It looks like Kasich might beat Rubio in Maine and Kentucky. That’s not good at all for Rubio.

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**Author:** ![Gorsnak](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gorsnak/32/7587_2.png) [@Gorsnak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gorsnak)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/36 "2016-03-06T01:38:20Z")

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Apparently the people of Maine have forgotten how to count. I blame Smoothie, D-Money, and Shifty.

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**Author:** ![Snowboarder\_Bo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snowboarder_bo/32/229_2.png) [@Snowboarder\_Bo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snowboarder_Bo)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/37 "2016-03-06T01:43:04Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> With 24% reporting in Kentucky, Trump’s up by 42-31.
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> (Google ‘Kentucky caucus’ and the numbers pop up, sourced to AP.)

If you google “gop primary” you’ll get a window for both GOP and Democratic party primaries with all states listed as drop down windows; all sourced from the AP.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/38 "2016-03-06T01:43:22Z")

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> [@Locrian](#):
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> Some are claiming that Trumpy’s NOT showing up for the CPAC Straw Poll was insurmountable! I don’t know why…

I don’t know about the straw poll but CPAC is a Big Deal with conservatives, and not showing up for his scheduled speech probably hurt Trump. The denouncement by Romney and then not showing up for CPAC were connected and no doubt affected tonight’s outcome to some extent.

> [@Locrian](#):
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> And I can’t believe I’m typing this, but yay, Cruz! It’s nice to see a worthless theocrat win more delegates than a man who sounds more like a battered drunk every day.

Be careful what you wish for! Cruz may be insane but he’s a lot shrewder and more electable than Trump.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/39 "2016-03-06T01:45:43Z")

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Feel the Kasichmentum! 😃

I wouldn’t make much of anyone’s lead in Maine until more results come in. The percentages look nontrivial, but then you look at the _numbers_ with 9% reporting: Cruz leads Trump by _230 votes_, and Kasich leads Rubio by _118 votes_. It wouldn’t take much of a swing to wipe out either of those leads.

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**Author:** ![wolfpup](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wolfpup/32/10618_2.png) [@wolfpup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfpup)\
**Post date:** [March 6, 2016, 1:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caucuses-and-primaries-saturday-march-5-2016/748056/40 "2016-03-06T01:50:20Z")

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Good point. I’d forgotten that Maine is mostly populated by wolves. 😃

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