# Caylee Anthony's remains found?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 11, 2008, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727 "2008-12-11T16:34:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/21 "2008-12-11T19:11:01Z")

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> [@Dung\_Beetle](#):
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> I thought of him too. And he must have known who it probably was as well.

Maybe he wasn’t educated or perceptive enough to recognize a child’s skull as distinct from an adult’s. That’s what I’d hope, anyway. Otherwise I think I’d never pee again, if I were him, for fear of baby heads.

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/22 "2008-12-11T19:12:27Z")

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> [@Zsofia](#):
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> God, think of that poor worker. I hope he gets to sue for pain and suffering damages. Can you imagine what that would be like?

If it is Caylee, her relatives will probably try to get the evidence thrown out and the worker arrested for exposure and public urination.

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**Author:** ![Acid\_Lamp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@Acid\_Lamp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acid_Lamp)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/23 "2008-12-11T19:20:12Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> I’m hearing that it’s skeletal remains. Would a body be a skeleton after seven months?
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> My boss thinks if it’s not Caylee it could be [Trenton Duckett](http://www.amw.com/missing_children/case.cfm?id=40266).

Easily. I’ve seen roadkill reduced to bones with a few weeks. Allowing for the bag, and only little critters seven months is ample time.

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/24 "2008-12-11T19:21:40Z")

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It’s just like that line from Stand by Me.

Sure they’ll find him, in 20 years when some hunter is pissing on his bones.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/25 "2008-12-11T19:41:38Z")

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> [@Absolute](#):
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> I know this makes me a cynical bastard, but man, how stupid do you have to be to leave the body a quarter-mile from your house?
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> So what is the motive supposed to be in this case? The mother just got bored with having a kid?

Her behaviour is consistent with sociopathy; incessant lying, inability to hold down jobs, using other people, an unrealistic expectation of how others will react to her behaviour. In all likelihood, yeah, she just got sick of it, and doesn’t have any feelings for other humans.

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**Author:** ![lunar\_elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/35a633/32.png) [@lunar\_elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lunar_elf)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/26 "2008-12-11T19:50:30Z")

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So sad. I hope they’re able to identify who it is - even if it’s Caylee. Did they ever figure out what the remains were in the bag they found a month or so ago? (bones and some shamrocks in a bag?)

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/27 "2008-12-11T19:55:51Z")

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The one they found in the water? I think that was just trash…old toys and such.

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**Author:** ![Tupug\_Anachi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@Tupug\_Anachi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tupug_Anachi)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/28 "2008-12-11T20:24:27Z")

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I just figured out how Casey turns on the tears so easy. I was watching the Aug 3 visitation tape with her and Dad. As soon as he started talking about sad stuff, she was wiping her eyes with the tip of her finger. I’m betting she’s got soap under her fingernails. What a piece of work. They could have tape of her actually killing her daughter and she’d be claiming it was somebody else. :mad:

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/29 "2008-12-11T21:31:49Z")

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Sorry, I should have done this in the OP.

[Link to the original thread started in July](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=476012).

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/30 "2008-12-11T21:31:56Z")

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Posted in the other thread when I didn’t realize Ivylass was throwing another party. Sorry for the repetetive parts.

> [@](#):
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> Child’s body found near Casey Anthony’s Orlando home  
> ‘Remains appear to be Caylee’ Anthony, says searcher; girl has been missing since June
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> ## ORLANDO, Fla. - Orange County deputies said a meter reader found the remains of a young child this morning in the area of S. Chickasaw Trail and Suburban Drive – less than 1/4 mile from the Anthonys’ home on Hopespring Drive. Spokesman Jim Solomons of the Orange County Sheriff’s Office said the remains were found in a bag.
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> Todd Black, the spokesman for Casey Anthony’s defense attorney, said the utility worker picked up the bag and a skull rolled out of it. Residents said duct tape was found around the skull, but those reports have not been confirmed by law-enforcement official.

It would be unusual for another missing child to have been killed and decomposed that close to the Anthonys you’d think.

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> “We certainly hope it isn’t [related to the Anthony case],” Black said. “If it is, it is a sad day.”

That’s true. Hopefully it’s another dead child altogether, then it won’t be so sad. (That’s another way of saying “What the fuck?”

Did anybody see the Anthonys on LARRY KING last night? I don’t know whether to feel sorry for them or want to slap them. Questions posed by nitpickers such as “If Casey’s such a concerned mom why didn’t she tell anybody for a month that Caylee was missing?” and “Why was she going to parties?” and the like were dismissed as “well you don’t know the whole story”. The completely discredited “it was spoiled pizza, not a decomposing body like I orginally said it smelled like” was resurrected, and the fact that Casey has been caught in about 182 lies already weren’t mentioned at all.

I can understand wanting to believe in their daughter’s constantly changing and provably false stories, but Occam’s Razor people! BEST CASE SCENARIO: Your daughter’s an irresponsible fucking bitch who if one of her versions IS the truth should still do prison time, be sterilized by the state, and never let within 500 yards of a child as long as she lives- and that’s not only the best case scenario but it’s the one nobody really believes but them.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 9:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/31 "2008-12-11T21:34:17Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> It would be unusual for another missing child to have been killed and decomposed that close to the Anthonys you’d think.

Trenton Duckett is still missing, but you’re right…it’s probably Caylee.

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**Author:** ![NinetyWt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/cc9497/32.png) [@NinetyWt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NinetyWt)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/32 "2008-12-11T21:37:17Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> It’s just like that line from Stand by Me.
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> Sure they’ll find him, in 20 years when some hunter is pissing on his bones.

It happens just like that doesn’t it? There was a dude back home who was out hunting and picked up an old turtle shell for a closer look.

Only it wasn’t a turtle shell. It was a man’s skull. They identified the man from one of those metal Social Security cards - it was about all that was left of his wallet. He’d been murdered 10 or more years before.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/33 "2008-12-11T21:41:58Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> [Here’s some more info.](http://www.wftv.com/news/18253901/detail.html)
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> I guess we can thank a meter reader with a full bladder for (maybe) breaking this case.

Usually it seems they’re found by a hunter (as mentioned) if the body’s in the woods or by a guy or woman walking their dog if found in the city (Chandra Levy and others).

Can you tell a child’s gender from the skull?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/34 "2008-12-11T21:44:21Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> I’m hearing that it’s skeletal remains. Would a body be a skeleton after seven months?

Conceivably, but more from bugs and external parasites rather than regular decomposition I would think. I’m surprised nobody noticed a smell; I had a rat die in the walls of my house and I can still smell the little bastard at times long after I removed it.

Wasn’t Trenton Duckett’s family suing Nancy Grace at some point for his mom’s suicide?

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**Author:** ![ouryL](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ouryl/32/6067_2.png) [@ouryL](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ouryL)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 9:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/35 "2008-12-11T21:54:27Z")

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Since finding children skulls is a fairly rare event, one would think that it is probable that this is Caylee’s skull.

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**Author:** ![drastic\_quench](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e36b37/32.png) [@drastic\_quench](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drastic_quench)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/36 "2008-12-11T21:59:18Z")

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> [@Wile\_E](#):
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> I imagine that there are a lot of little girls that look like Caylee. Maybe even a couple little boys, too.

Yeah, skulls are really had to tell apart.

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**Author:** ![Zsofia](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7bcc69/32.png) [@Zsofia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zsofia)\
**Post date:** [December 11, 2008, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/37 "2008-12-11T22:53:30Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Usually it seems they’re found by a hunter (as mentioned) if the body’s in the woods or by a guy or woman walking their dog if found in the city (Chandra Levy and others).
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> Can you tell a child’s gender from the skull?

Evidently it can be pretty difficult to tell gender from a child’s skeletonized remains, even if you have the whole thing. If they can do DNA, of course, that will tell you.

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**Author:** ![Wile\_E](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c37758/32.png) [@Wile\_E](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wile_E)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/38 "2008-12-12T05:05:30Z")

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> [@drastic\_quench](#):
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> Yeah, skulls are really had to tell apart.

Only I was referring to a comment about a child who looks like Caylee being spotted at an Orlando mall.

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**Author:** ![Amp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Amp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Amp)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/39 "2008-12-12T05:22:09Z")

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What if the grandmother doesn’t allow any samples taken form her for a DNA test? Since the mother is in jail can the state force a DNA sample from her or are the investigators SOL if she wont volunteer one?

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**Author:** ![Moirai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/96bed5/32.png) [@Moirai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Moirai)\
**Post date:** [December 12, 2008, 5:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/caylee-anthonys-remains-found/476727/40 "2008-12-12T05:25:40Z")

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IIRC a court order can force Casey to provide a sample. Legal Dopers, some help on this?

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