# CBEscappe is unfamiliar with honesty **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 11, 2006, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582 "2006-01-11T23:38:55Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 4:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/61 "2006-01-12T04:31:13Z")
> [@CBEscapee](#): > > What’s with this fucking obsession with cites? So you admit that you’re a lying coward and you can’t possibly substantiate your claims that I’m a bigot? And my “obsession” with cites, you lying racist, is that this is the Dope. You’ve slandered me, and you don’t even have the balls to cite a single post that displays my “bigotry”. Pathetic. ---
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/62 "2006-01-12T04:34:48Z")
> [@AFAIKnow](#): > > [http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-29,GGLD:en&q=San+Ysidro+tunnel](http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-29,GGLD:en&q=San+Ysidro+tunnel) Yeah a great link. The first return is about a tunnel discovered in 2003. Fucking news runs fast in your world As far as you don’t know!! You are one dumb gringo. ---
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 4:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/63 "2006-01-12T04:37:12Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > So you admit that you’re a lying coward and you can’t possibly substantiate your claims that I’m a bigot? > > And my “obsession” with cites, you lying racist, is that this is the Dope. You’ve slandered me, and you don’t even have the balls to cite a single post that displays my “bigotry”. > > Pathetic. I could have 10 eyewitnesses testifying that you are a card carrying member of the KKK and that still wouldn’t be enough “proof” according to the double standards you pieces of shit have. Fucking gringo hypocrite. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 4:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/64 "2006-01-12T04:43:38Z")
> [@CBEscapee](#): > > Yeah a great link. The first return is about a tunnel discovered in 2003. Fucking news runs fast in your world As far as you don’t know!! > > You are one dumb gringo. So, do you care to address the cite I gave you from today, or are you going to ignore that one like you do all the others that demonstrate your dishonesty? You can find it at Post #60, a mere 4 posts above this one. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 4:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/65 "2006-01-12T04:46:25Z")
> [@CBEscapee](#): > > I could have 10 eyewitnesses testifying that you are a card carrying member of the KKK and that still wouldn’t be enough “proof” according to the double standards you pieces of shit have. Fucking gringo hypocrite. Translation: “But but but… I won’t provide proof! You can’t make me! I’ll make up whatever I want and won’t substantiate it. And if I did you’d just ignore it, my crystal ball told me so!” You are a liar with no honor. I am not a bigot and you cannot and will not cite any posts of mine which are bigoted, because they don’t exist. And give me a cite for how I’m a “gringo hypocrite” you lying racist? Can’t do that either, can you? ---
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 4:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/66 "2006-01-12T04:48:41Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > [Is that so?](http://cbs2.com/topstories/local_story_011083657.html) > > Got an answer for that? You have one for everything else. Of course, they’re usually dishonest anyway, so I’ll just expect more of the same. Yeah it just shows the usual fucking bullshit bias of US news sources in their haste to blame someone else. Read this you fucking prejudiced blind moron: [tunnel](http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/mexico/tijuana/20060111-9999-2m11tunnel.html) How about another site puddin’? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/67 "2006-01-12T04:52:02Z")
> [@](#): > > You agree, through your use of this service, that you will not use the SDMB to post any material that you know or should know is false and/or defamatory, inaccurate, abusive, vulgar, hateful, harassing, obscene, profane, threatening, invasive of a person’s privacy, or violative of U.S. law. Slandering me by calling me a bigot is false, defamatory, innacurate, abusive, hateful, and harassing. Give proof or retract, and give me an apology with that retraction. ---
**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 4:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/68 "2006-01-12T04:53:49Z")
How many times will the CiQ be permitted to use that racist term in the disparaging manner he’s using it? ---
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/69 "2006-01-12T04:55:20Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Slandering me by calling me a bigot is false, defamatory, innacurate, abusive, hateful, and harassing. > > Give proof or retract, and give me an apology with that retraction. After the shit you’ve said about me you think you deserve an apology. Fucking bite my ass. Everyone on here has been calling me a racist based on my use of one word. That’s fucking lame and false besides. Show me one post where I have denigrated a race of people. ---
**Author:** ![Updike](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/ec9cab/32.png) [@Updike](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Updike)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/70 "2006-01-12T04:55:26Z")
> [@CBEscapee](#): > > Ain’t this sweet. A bunch of gringos joining together in a big circle jerk. Very typical. Nothing new here. Fucking gringo hypocrisy as usual. If this is just a fucking gringo circle jerk, why are you so eager to join in? Hmm. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/71 "2006-01-12T04:55:46Z")
I’ve never actually seen a meltdown in real time before this. It’s truly fascinating. I’m almost in awe how these play out. I feel priveledged to be able to watch without having to buy a ticket. Of course, I’m a damn dirty gringo, so priveledge is a natural feeling for me. :non-winking Wally: ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/72 "2006-01-12T04:58:46Z")
> [@jrfranchi](#): > > All I can think of from that article is “Ho-Gan”. 😉 > > Thanks for the links. As much as I hate to say it, he’s right about the first link. Try [CNN](http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/01/11/california.tunnel/index.html). ---
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 4:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/73 "2006-01-12T04:59:28Z")
> [@duffer](#): > > I’ve never actually seen a meltdown in real time before this. It’s truly fascinating. I’m almost in awe how these play out. I feel priveledged to be able to watch without having to buy a ticket. > > Of course, I’m a damn dirty gringo, so priveledge is a natural feeling for me. :non-winking Wally: Yeah your sense of entitlement is famous round the world. “But, but why are you arresting me? I’m American for Crist’s sake! Call the Embassy. I demand my rights” ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 5:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/74 "2006-01-12T05:00:24Z")
You know, if you need remedial lessons in English, I’ll be glad to help you out. I only ask because this is the very first sentence of the cite that you yourself gave this “fucking prejudiced blind moron”: > [@](#): > > U.S. and Mexican authorities are investigating a **cross-border** tunnel found Monday by U.S. Border Patrol agents just west of the San Ysidro port of entry. [sub]bolding mine[/sub] Reading further, we get this: > [@](#): > > Mack referred questions about the **tunnel’s starting point in Mexico** to Mexican authorities. > > The tunnel is across from an area of a Mexican federal zone that is either owned or leased by Mexican Customs. Although Mexican officials have begun investigating, no one contacted yesterday would provide any information. > > A Mexican customs agent who didn’t identify himself and who wouldn’t let a reporter into the area without authorization said the tunnel’s entrance was in a section of the property that is little used. The top administrator for the customs agency declined to comment and referred all questions to Mexican investigators. [sub]again, bolding mine[/sub] Unless we recently annexed part of Mexico and nobody in the world is aware of it, including the government of Mexico and the government of the United States, I think it’s safe to say that your assertion that “The whole fucking tunnel is on the American side of the border!!!” is totally false. But maybe that’s just me. I am, after all, a racist, and although I used quotes from the cite you gave me it was my blind hatred of all things Mexican that made me read it incorrectly. Either that or you’re illiterate, in which case the offer still stands. My son reads _Hop On Pop_. That would probably be a good place for you to start. We’ll go on to other more difficult books later once you’ve mastered it. ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 5:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/75 "2006-01-12T05:01:06Z")
> [@Monty](#): > > How many times will the CiQ be permitted to use that racist term in the disparaging manner he’s using it? I hope not for much longer. I think we can take his 15 bucks and send the asshole packing. Replace “hypocritical gringos” with “lazy wetbacks” and someone would be banned so fast their head would spin. (The previous example is given for comparison purposes only) > [@CBEscapee](#): > > After the shit you’ve said about me you think you deserve an apology. Fucking bite my ass. No matter what I said I deserve an apology and a retraction of your lies. You are, after all, lying. > [@CBEscapee](#): > > Everyone on here has been calling me a racist based on my use of one word. “Lazy Niggers”, “Thieving Wetbacks”, “Hypocritical Gringos”. You’re scum. > [@CBEscapee](#): > > That’s fucking lame and false besides. Show me one post where I have denigrated a race of people. Every time you slam “Gringos”. By your own definition in another thread anybody discriminating against people based on nationality is racism. Or were you just pretending to believe that in order to bait people? ---
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/76 "2006-01-12T05:04:24Z")
> [@Airman Doors](#): > > You know, if you need remedial lessons in English, I’ll be glad to help you out. > > I only ask because this is the very first sentence of the cite that you yourself gave this “fucking prejudiced blind moron”: > > [sub]bolding mine[/sub] > > Reading further, we get this: > > [sub]again, bolding mine[/sub] > > Unless we recently annexed part of Mexico and nobody in the world is aware of it, including the government of Mexico and the government of the United States, I think it’s safe to say that your assertion that “The whole fucking tunnel is on the American side of the border!!!” is totally false. > > But maybe that’s just me. I am, after all, a racist, and although I used quotes from the cite you gave me it was my blind hatred of all things Mexican that made me read it incorrectly. > > Either that or you’re illiterate, in which case the offer still stands. My son reads _Hop On Pop_. That would probably be a good place for you to start. We’ll go on to other more difficult books later once you’ve mastered it. “U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the investigative arm of the Department of Homeland Security, said the tunnel ended in a strip of vacant land near a parking lot \*\* on the U.S. side.”\*\* You said something about illiterate? ---
**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 5:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/77 "2006-01-12T05:05:44Z")
Jesus, you’re a moron. Yes, it started in Mexico, and ended in the United States. That’s why it was across the border. That’s also why you were lying when you said it was only in the US. ---
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/78 "2006-01-12T05:08:00Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > I hope not for much longer. I think we can take his 15 bucks and send the asshole packing. > Replace “hypocritical gringos” with “lazy wetbacks” and someone would be banned so fast their head would spin. > (The previous example is given for comparison purposes only) > > No matter what I said I deserve an apology and a retraction of your lies. You are, after all, lying. > > “Lazy Niggers”, “Thieving Wetbacks”, “Hypocritical Gringos”. > You’re scum. > > Every time you slam “Gringos”. By your own definition in another thread anybody discriminating against people based on nationality is racism. > > Or were you just pretending to believe that in order to bait people? Actually another poster said that the definition I was using to make my case was invalid. So now I’m confused. My argument on racism on the other thread , according to people here was completely false and dishonest. Now I’m hearing that my information is valid. How about people making up their fucking minds. Rules around here seem to change according to your whims. ---
**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/79 "2006-01-12T05:08:39Z")
By the way, CB, if we’re such a shitty lot, why do you people risk life and limb coming here? How many people die of starvation and exposure every year breaking the law to get across the border? Seems that many of your countrymen would rather live here with us than there with you. Think about that. It seems most of this is coming from pride in your homeland which is certainly understandable. Most people love their country, but you may want to look to Mexico City and your leadership for reasons that so many want to come here. You know, the leadership that published a booklet on how to increase safety in infiltrating the US? Your own leaders want you out. Says a lot. We are in large part a nation of immigrants and the decendants of such. And they are still welcomed. So long as they follow the rules in coming here. The border isn’t open. The laws state that if you want to live here, there are certain steps you have to take. A person can’t just wake up one morning and say “Honey, we’re moving to America.” If that is unacceptable, why would you want to move here? America, the most racist country in the world that most races want to live in. :rolleyes: If we really are instinctually racist, why the fuck would anyone want to come here? Douchebag. ---
**Author:** ![CBEscapee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/b19c9b/32.png) [@CBEscapee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CBEscapee)\ **Post date:** [January 12, 2006, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582/80 "2006-01-12T05:10:21Z")
> [@FinnAgain](#): > > Jesus, you’re a moron. > > Yes, it started in Mexico, and ended in the United States. That’s why it was across the border. That’s also why you were lying when you said it was only in the US. I quoted an American source and that source says: ““U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, the investigative arm of the Department of Homeland Security, said the tunnel ended in a strip of vacant land near a parking lot on the U.S. side.”” Now who is the moron? Can I expect an apology for calling me a liar? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbescappe-is-unfamiliar-with-honesty/339582.md?page=5)