# CBS apologizes for filming 'Amazing Race' near B-52 memorial in Vietnam **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 25, 2013, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-apologizes-for-filming-amazing-race-near-b-52-memorial-in-vietnam/653921 "2013-03-25T15:15:57Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 10\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-apologizes-for-filming-amazing-race-near-b-52-memorial-in-vietnam/653921/81 "2013-03-29T00:54:25Z")
> [@Hail\_Ants](#): > > …Perhaps contrary to what you might think based on my OP I \*\*\*do \*\*\*think that the Vietnam War was a \*\*\*huge \*\*\*mistake. Unless someone states otherwise, I just assume it’s generally accepted that Vietnam was a mistake. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![obfusciatrist](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/4af34b/32.png) [@obfusciatrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/obfusciatrist)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-apologizes-for-filming-amazing-race-near-b-52-memorial-in-vietnam/653921/82 "2013-03-29T04:45:26Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#): > > You seem unable to see a distinction between acknowledging that something exists and promoting that thing which exists. > [@Magiver](#): > > How so? nobody is contesting CBS’s rights. What was contested was the insult of promoting the propaganda of a group that killed American Citizens who were fighting against tyranny. There is no conflict of ideology here. Those who were insulted asked for an apology. They didn’t storm CBS and try to shut them down. Thank you for responding with a demonstration of exactly what I was saying. You thinking showing is promoting. This must make for a very scary world to live in with so many people promoting such very horrible things by simply showing that they exist. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 5:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-apologizes-for-filming-amazing-race-near-b-52-memorial-in-vietnam/653921/83 "2013-03-29T05:22:21Z")
> [@obfusciatrist](#): > > Thank you for responding with a demonstration of exactly what I was saying. You thinking showing is promoting. This must make for a very scary world to live in with so many people promoting such very horrible things by simply showing that they exist. You’ve created an either or logic test that doesn’t work. Showing doesn’t have to mean promoting but it can mean promoting. If their participants repeated a mantra from Iran that the Holocaust never happened then they would be promoting the message. This is different than reporting what someone said which would be news. Unless CBS intended to promote the government mantra then they are promoting the message. This was apparently not their intention or they wouldn’t have apologized. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 5:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-apologizes-for-filming-amazing-race-near-b-52-memorial-in-vietnam/653921/84 "2013-03-29T05:50:51Z")
> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#): > > I’ve never understood this line of argument. > > Obviously plenty of African-Americans have fought in the US military and believed they were doing so to “protect our freedoms” but no thinking person would ever suggest they should celebrate the KKK marching through black neighborhoods holding aloft watermelons. Two things: 1. Whatever law protects them, protects you. Should you ever feel the need to say something unpopular, even offensive, you have the right. If people fought and died for something, it was for that. 2. Let the KKK march and speak. Let us hear their message and reject it. Let us know who they are, or if they hide behind hoods, let us laugh at their cowardice. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-apologizes-for-filming-amazing-race-near-b-52-memorial-in-vietnam/653921/85 "2013-03-29T05:55:36Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > Two things: > > 1. Whatever law protects them, protects you. Should you ever feel the need to say something unpopular, even offensive, you have the right. If people fought and died for something, it was for that. > > 2. Let the KKK march and speak. Let us hear their message and reject it. Let us know who they are, or if they hide behind hoods, let us laugh at their cowardice. absolutely. But if CBS has a reality show where the contestants wear white hooded robes and carry water melons chanting KKK rhetoric then people are going to be offended. Yes? Did I say something controversial? ---
**Author:** ![JLRogers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ce73a5/32.png) [@JLRogers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JLRogers)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 5:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-apologizes-for-filming-amazing-race-near-b-52-memorial-in-vietnam/653921/86 "2013-03-29T05:59:14Z")
I’m still waiting to see “ **CBS apologizes for filming ‘Amazing Race’** ” ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 6:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-apologizes-for-filming-amazing-race-near-b-52-memorial-in-vietnam/653921/87 "2013-03-29T06:15:34Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > absolutely. But if CBS has a reality show where the contestants wear white hooded robes and carry water melons chanting KKK rhetoric then people are going to be offended. Yes? Did I say something controversial? People probably would be offended, but I don’t think that’s a fair comparison to what happened here. If CBS had a reality show where the contestants were directed to go to a sheet factory and pick up an envelope and people were offended, I’d say they were overreacting. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 7:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-apologizes-for-filming-amazing-race-near-b-52-memorial-in-vietnam/653921/88 "2013-03-29T07:01:19Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > People probably would be offended, but I don’t think that’s a fair comparison to what happened here. If CBS had a reality show where the contestants were directed to go to a sheet factory and pick up an envelope and people were offended, I’d say they were overreacting. they were required to memorize a pro-communist song so I’d say the comparison was fair. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 7:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-apologizes-for-filming-amazing-race-near-b-52-memorial-in-vietnam/653921/89 "2013-03-29T07:12:20Z")
> [@Magiver](#): > > they were required to memorize a pro-communist song so I’d say the comparison was fair. They were required to see a series of symbols that spelled out words, then to go find something with the matching set of symbols. There was no indication that they knew what the words meant (it could have been a cookie recipe as much as a pro-communist slogan, for all the meaning it had to them), or that they remembered them more than 30 seconds after they got their next clue. ---
**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2013, 7:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-apologizes-for-filming-amazing-race-near-b-52-memorial-in-vietnam/653921/90 "2013-03-29T07:26:29Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > They were required to see a series of symbols that spelled out words, then to go find something with the matching set of symbols. There was no indication that they knew what the words meant (it could have been a cookie recipe as much as a pro-communist slogan, for all the meaning it had to them), or that they remembered them more than 30 seconds after they got their next clue. nobody said they did it deliberately nor were they asked to apologize. CBS was responsible for the content and they were asked to apologize. Which they did. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-apologizes-for-filming-amazing-race-near-b-52-memorial-in-vietnam/653921.md?page=4)