# CBS reports alleged plan to attack the Capitol tomorrow (edited title)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [January 6, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758 "2021-01-06T01:40:00Z")\
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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/1 "2021-01-06T01:40:00Z")

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This might affect things.

> CBS News has learned of a threat to attack the U.S. Capitol on the same day Congress is set to count Electoral College votes. The threat cited Iranian General Qassem Soleimani, who was killed by the U.S. last year. Jeff Pegues has the exclusive report.

> **[CBS News exclusive: Audio captured of threat to fly plane into U.S. Capitol](https://www.cbsnews.com/video/cbs-news-exclusive-audio-captured-of-threat-to-fly-plane-into-u-s-capitol/)**
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> CBS News has learned of a threat to attack the U.S. Capitol on the same day Congress is set to count Electoral College votes. The threat cited Iranian General Qassem Soleimani, who was killed by the U.S. last year. Jeff Pegues has the exclusive...

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**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/2 "2021-01-06T01:57:56Z")

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Lovely.

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**Author:** ![DWMarch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dwmarch/32/1010_2.png) [@DWMarch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DWMarch)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/3 "2021-01-06T01:58:25Z")

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The literal directions for this are in the Tom Clancy novel “Debt of Honor”. However, since that book was published I believe there have been some improvements to the security infrastructure to prevent the weaponization of airliners.

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**Author:** ![Banquet\_Bear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/banquet_bear/32/373_2.png) [@Banquet\_Bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Banquet_Bear)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/4 "2021-01-06T01:59:03Z")

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“CBS reports Iran has plans to attack the Capital tomorrow.”

…lets be clear that this is NOT what the reporting says.

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> Multiple air traffic controllers in New York heard a chilling threat Monday in audio obtained exclusively by CBS News: “We are flying a plane into the Capitol on Wednesday. Soleimani will be avenged.”
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> It’s unclear who sent the threat. While the government **does not believe the warning of an attack is credible** , it is being investigated as a breach of aviation frequencies, CBS News has learned.

> **[Chilling threat sent to air traffic controllers vowing revenge for killing of...](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/iran-threat-air-traffic-control-general-qassem-soleimani-revenge/)**
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> "We are flying a plane into the Capitol on Wednesday. Solemani will be avenged," the threat said.

There was a threat. At most at the moment its a breach of aviation frequencies. But the thread title is extremely misleading.

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**Author:** ![Red\_Wiggler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/red_wiggler/32/13190_2.png) [@Red\_Wiggler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Red_Wiggler)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/5 "2021-01-06T01:59:06Z")

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Ninja’d.

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**Author:** ![Velocity](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/velocity/32/18006_2.png) [@Velocity](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Velocity)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/6 "2021-01-06T02:05:05Z")

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Why would Iran avenge Soleimani by attacking the Capitol when that building is hosting the vote-certifying ceremony to vote out the very president who killed Soleimani?

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**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/7 "2021-01-06T02:07:59Z")

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Somebody gave a Proud Boy an aircraft radio for Christmas.

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/8 "2021-01-06T02:15:54Z")

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> [@Velocity](#):
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> Why would Iran avenge Soleimani by attacking the Capitol when that building is hosting the vote-certifying ceremony to vote out the very president who killed Soleimani?

Because Iran (or whoever actually made the threat) doesn’t care that much about which specific American President ordered the assassination? Iran and the U.S. have been engaged in a low-intensity conflict that occasionally flares up into quasi-warfare since 1979, through seven U.S. Presidential administrations. A lot of Americans think of Iran as a monolithic hostile foreign power, and a lot of Iranians think of the U.S. in the same way.

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**Author:** ![SwissMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e79b87/32.png) [@SwissMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SwissMan)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/9 "2021-01-06T02:21:57Z")

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Yeah, nothing in that message to indicate the Iranian government was actually behind this; for all we know, it’s just some crank trying to unnerve people.

The Iranian government is interested in self-survival; they aren’t going to be so utterly stupid as to actually try something like this.

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/10 "2021-01-06T02:32:22Z")

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Well, [Forbes](https://www.forbes.com/sites/roberthart/2021/01/05/iran-issues-interpol-arrest-request-for-president-trump-over-top-military-assassination/) is reporting that Iran has issued an arrest warrant for Trump regarding Soleimani

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**Author:** ![BippityBoppityBoo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bippityboppityboo/32/5745_2.png) [@BippityBoppityBoo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BippityBoppityBoo)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/11 "2021-01-06T02:37:29Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> Somebody gave a Proud Boy an aircraft radio for Christmas.

Got it in one.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/12 "2021-01-06T02:42:54Z")

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Yeah, I’m with @LSLGuy. Some Trumplican nutcase who thinks that if a terroristic threat means they can’t meet to count the electoral votes, somehow CFSG gets to stay president. If it were an actual terrorist, why on earth would they announce their intentions?

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**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/13 "2021-01-06T02:52:30Z")

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By definition, whoever made the threat _is_ an actual terrorist.

Besides that, bomb threats are taken seriously precisely because “actual terrorists” often do announce their intentions. It’s part of that whole “cause terror” thing.

I personally don’t think there’s nearly enough information on this particular incident yet for any speculation about who and why to be more than a wild guess.

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**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 2:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/14 "2021-01-06T02:58:34Z")

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> [@gdave](#):
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> By definition, whoever made the threat _is_ an actual terrorist.

The distinction I was making was pretty obvious. But if you want to get this pedantic - no, he’s not a terrorist if he doesn’t scare anyone.

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**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 3:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/15 "2021-01-06T03:04:09Z")

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Terror-ish?

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/16 "2021-01-06T03:14:03Z")

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> [@Riemann](#):
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> Some Trumplican nutcase who thinks that if a terroristic threat means they can’t meet to count the electoral votes, somehow CFSG gets to stay president.

Just like the usual dumbshit college kid who calls in a bomb threat so he won’t have to take that exam he didn’t study for.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/17 "2021-01-06T03:41:06Z")

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You can bet the FAA implemented a TFR over Washington, DC, and the immediate area for Wednesday. Then there will be the military overflights on patrol.

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**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/18 "2021-01-06T04:12:14Z")

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There is ALWAYS a TFR in effect over Washington. It’s a permanent TFR no-fly zone, except for authorized military aircraft. They may well take additional precautions as well for the occasion.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/19 "2021-01-06T04:32:40Z")

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There is just…no way this in any way credible. It would be totally over for Iran and they know it. They’re anti-American but not insane

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**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\
**Post date:** [January 6, 2021, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-reports-alleged-plan-to-attack-the-capitol-tomorrow-edited-title/929758/20 "2021-01-06T04:38:48Z")

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Bingo.

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