# CBS says Obama has 95% percent of the black vote in Penn. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 5, 2008, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183 "2008-11-05T01:36:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/1 "2008-11-05T01:36:17Z")
Putting this here because I imagine it’ll end up here anyway. Could this be anything other than racism? ---
**Author:** ![T\_SQUARE](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/9de053/32.png) [@T\_SQUARE](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/T_SQUARE)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/2 "2008-11-05T01:38:26Z")
> [@Rapier42](#): > > Could this be anything other than racism? Could be a fact I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/3 "2008-11-05T01:39:58Z")
there’s probably some racism there, as there is on the other side. What percent of the black vote went to Kerry last time? ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/4 "2008-11-05T01:42:29Z")
In the last two elections, Gore and Kerry got about 90% of the black vote. Evidence indicates that blacks tend to vote for Democrats. ---
**Author:** ![Neon\_Madman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e79b87/32.png) [@Neon\_Madman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Neon_Madman)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/5 "2008-11-05T01:42:54Z")
Unless all those black people are voting against McCain because he is white, I would say no ---
**Author:** ![wring](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/838e76/32.png) [@wring](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wring)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/6 "2008-11-05T01:48:14Z")
> [@Rapier42](#): > > Putting this here because I imagine it’ll end up here anyway. > > Could this be anything other than racism? Well, up until this election, pretty much 100% of whites voted for a white male for president. (what \*\*Frank \*\* said) ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/7 "2008-11-05T01:48:30Z")
> [@Rapier42](#): > > Putting this here because I imagine it’ll end up here anyway. > > Could this be anything other than racism? Is that a joke? Black people vote Democratic 90% of the time. The Republican Party is incredibly unpopular right now. I’m surprised it isn’t more than 95%. So, yes, it could. Dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/8 "2008-11-05T01:48:42Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > In the last two elections, Gore and Kerry got about 90% of the black vote. > > Evidence indicates that blacks tend to vote for Democrats. That’s what I thought. I imagine the number of blacks voting for obama solely because of his race isn’t too different from the number of non-blacks voting for mccain solely because of obama’s race. this thread is stupid. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/9 "2008-11-05T01:52:05Z")
> [@5-HT](#): > > That’s what I thought. I imagine the number of blacks voting for obama solely because of his race isn’t too different from the number of non-blacks voting for mccain solely because of obama’s race. Obama is expected to draw approximately 10% of likely voters that Kerry didn’t. Given that only 10% of black voters are available to the Republicans (black Republicans and independents combined), it’s possible that as many as 2% of black voters went for Obama because he’s black. Those fuckers! ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/10 "2008-11-05T02:35:37Z")
> [@5-HT](#): > > there’s probably some racism there, as there is on the other side. What percent of the black vote went to Kerry last time? No cite, but the talking heads said 60 something, specifically in Penn. I should clarify, this is an honest question. I think racism is certainly a factor, depending on your definition, but I’m wondering what else is at work here. ---
**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/11 "2008-11-05T02:35:44Z")
> [@Rapier42](#): > > Putting this here because I imagine it’ll end up here anyway. > > Could this be anything other than racism? Mm hm. And before this year, close to 100 percent of both white and black people had only voted for white men for president. You’re a moron. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/12 "2008-11-05T02:42:16Z")
> [@Rapier42](#): > > No cite, but the talking heads said 60 something, specifically in Penn. > > I should clarify, this is an honest question. I think racism is certainly a factor, depending on your definition, but I’m wondering what else is at work here. Apparently not your brain. Where were all these racist black voters during the Democratic primaries when Jesse Jackson was running for President? ---
**Author:** ![Rapier42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/90db22/32.png) [@Rapier42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rapier42)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/13 "2008-11-05T02:43:50Z")
> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#): > > Is that a joke? > > Black people vote Democratic 90% of the time. The Republican Party is incredibly unpopular right now. I’m surprised it isn’t more than 95%. > > So, yes, it could. Dumbass. So incredibly unpopular, I know. I mean, there’s a whole 300,000 vote difference in the popular vote right now. Nice username/post combo, btw. ---
**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/14 "2008-11-05T02:46:47Z")
[QUOTE=Rapier42] CBS says Obama has 95% percent of the black vote in Penn. [/QUOTE] Maybe the negro is smarter than us white folk. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/15 "2008-11-05T02:48:37Z")
> [@Rapier42](#): > > No cite, but the talking heads said 60 something, specifically in Penn. Table 2 in this [13 page pdf](http://www.iamsaam.org/userimages/BlackVote.pdf) shows 90% for Gore and 83% for Kerry among black voters in Pennsylvania. > [@](#): > > I think racism is certainly a factor, … Why? Black voters are strongly Democratic. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/16 "2008-11-05T02:56:18Z")
Dupey (the 8th dwarf). ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/17 "2008-11-05T02:59:01Z")
Of the other 5%, roughly half are black journalists, analysts and pundits who’ve made their living for the past year working for CNN, Fox, MSNBC and other networks saying they’re not going to vote for Obama so that the station couldn’t be accused of racism. Of the other half, roughly half are black journalists, analysts and pundits who’ve made their living for the past year working for CNN, Fox, MSNBC and other networks saying they’re not going to vote for Obama so that the station couldn’t be accused of racism, then when they got into the booth voted for Obama. Probably about 60% of Alabama will vote for Bush. Presumably most black Alabamians will vote for Obama, and let’s say blacks count for about 20% of the voting population (we have a very high ex-con rate among blacks here so I’m not sure how many are ineligible to vote). This means that only about 20% of the non-black population of Alabama voted for Obama. Does this mean Alabama is racist? I won’t argue yea or nea, but I will say that Bush won the state by 25% in 2004. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/18 "2008-11-05T04:01:01Z")
> [@Rapier42](#): > > So incredibly unpopular, I know. I mean, there’s a whole 300,000 vote difference in the popular vote right now. > > Nice username/post combo, btw. California isn’t in yet, dumbass. ---
**Author:** ![Waenara](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/50afbb/32.png) [@Waenara](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Waenara)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/19 "2008-11-05T04:34:44Z")
Overall in this election, [polls say that age is a more important factor than race](http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/11/04/exit.polls/index.html) in how people are voting. > [@](#): > > While Barack Obama would be the nation’s first black president, John McCain would be the oldest person ever elected to the nation’s highest office. > > And twice as many of those polled Tuesday said age was an important factor in their vote as those who said race was. > > Among those factoring age into their vote, 78 percent went for Obama to 21 percent for McCain, exit polls showed. > > Those who said race was an important factor voted 55 percent to 44 percent in favor of Barack Obama. But Obama also was the winner by a similar margin among those who said race was not important, “which suggests that race was not a decisive factor in this election,” CNN senior political analyst Bill Schneider said. ---
**Author:** ![Belowjob2.0](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Belowjob2.0](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Belowjob2.0)\ **Post date:** [November 5, 2008, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183/20 "2008-11-05T04:41:53Z")
Alan Keyes and Cynthia McKinney are on the ballot. They’re both a hundred per cent black but they got little if any of the black vote. Obama’s only half black, but he got over 90 per cent of the black vote. Clearly black Americans are racist against black candidates. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cbs-says-obama-has-95-percent-of-the-black-vote-in-penn/471183.md?page=2)