# CC Sabathia Entering Alcohol Rehab **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [October 5, 2015, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659 "2015-10-05T23:40:26Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 18\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 5, 2015, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/1 "2015-10-05T23:40:26Z")
Just as the post-season starts, [CC is entering rehab](http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2015/10/05/446107008/yankees-pitcher-cc-sabathia-will-enter-alcohol-rehab-and-miss-post-season?utm_medium=RSS&utm_campaign=news) and will miss it. I don’t know if this is the reason for his dismal season, but I hope he fixes himself and can return for another good to very good season or three. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/2 "2015-10-06T00:50:30Z")
He didn’t have that great of [a year.](http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sabatc.01.shtml) But that’s a hell of a time to hang 'em up. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/3 "2015-10-06T01:09:38Z")
Was he told he wasn’t making the post season roster? Seems like a convenient excuse ---
**Author:** ![Telemark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/telemark/32/372_2.png) [@Telemark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Telemark)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/4 "2015-10-06T01:31:17Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > Was he told he wasn’t making the post season roster? Seems like a convenient excuse He probably would have been on the post season roster. There’s a lot of talk that he got completely out of control at the WC clinch celebration and that was a sign that he had a serious problem. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/5 "2015-10-06T22:30:07Z")
> [@Little\_Pig](#): > > He didn’t have that great of [a year.](http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/sabatc.01.shtml) But that’s a hell of a time to hang 'em up. He was actually pitching well since he came off the DL and got a different leg brace. In five starts since then, he was 2-1 with a 2.17 ERA. So I think this was entirely alcohol-related and had nothing to do with his pitching. I can’t imagine how bad things must have been to go into rehab now. [Here’s more](http://espn.go.com/newyork/mlb/story/_/id/13822358/subtle-warning-signs-seen-baltimore-newyork-yankees-pitcher-cc-sabathia) on signs leading up to this. Kudos to him for prioritizing this over a game. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [October 6, 2015, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/6 "2015-10-06T23:08:24Z")
It is a shame for the Yanks, he probably would have been the 4th man in the post season rotation if the Yanks beat Houston tonight, but if he needs to get himself better, all to the good that he is doing something. I hope he recovers and comes back strongish or retires and doesn’t drag it out one way or the other. ---
**Author:** ![VarlosZ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d78d45/32.png) [@VarlosZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VarlosZ)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 12:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/7 "2015-10-07T00:00:43Z")
Am I a bad person for thinking that, if at all possible, he really should have waited until after the postseason? There’s just a huge difference in terms of both convenience for him, and his obligations to others, between going now as compared with going 2 weeks from now (give or take), but probably not a lot difference in efficacy of treatment between now and then. I mean, if you’re anything resembling a functional alcoholic (and I have to imagine he mostly is, if he’s been able to pitch at his level) … I don’t know, practical concerns can shape how and when you seek treatment. Obviously I don’t know the particulars. There are all sorts potential psychological and physiological complications that would constitute good reasons for not waiting; I guess what I’m saying is, I think he kinda needs one. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/8 "2015-10-07T00:02:03Z")
Seems to me he’s broken his contract. No? ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/9 "2015-10-07T00:18:31Z")
> [@VarlosZ](#): > > Am I a bad person for thinking that, if at all possible, he really should have waited until after the postseason? There’s just a huge difference in terms of both convenience for him, and his obligations to others, between going now as compared with going 2 weeks from now (give or take), but probably not a lot difference in efficacy of treatment between now and then. I mean, if you’re anything resembling a functional alcoholic (and I have to imagine he mostly is, if he’s been able to pitch at his level) … I don’t know, practical concerns can shape how and when you seek treatment. > > There are all sorts potential psychological and physiological complications that would constitute good reasons for not waiting; I guess what I’m saying is, I think he kinda needs one. The guy is a professional and hasn’t been one to exaggerate injuries to get time off. I have no doubt this had to be extremely serious and there had to be an excellent reason for him to take this step now instead of waiting. It’s not just about efficacy of treatment now versus in two weeks. It could be about what will have happened to his family, his career and reputation, and is he even going to be alive in 2 weeks. Hard-core alcoholism isn’t something you just “buck up” and power through for a couple weeks. > [@kayT](#): > > Seems to me he’s broken his contract. No? No, it’s an illness. You haven’t broken your contract because you have an injury that requires hospitalization. This is the same issue legally. ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/10 "2015-10-07T00:33:32Z")
Don’t illnesses normally require doctors to diagnose them? Has he been diagnosed? Because the stories I read didn’t sound like that. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/11 "2015-10-07T00:40:47Z")
From what I’ve read, he will have absolutely no problem getting a doctor to diagnose alcoholism. ---
**Author:** ![ZipperJJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zipperjj/32/211_2.png) [@ZipperJJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZipperJJ)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/12 "2015-10-07T00:46:04Z")
There’s no real secrets kept from the press when it comes to the Yankees. I’m sure everything that needed to be done before the announcement was done, and everything was cleared. I think it’s pretty honorable for him to say he will be better for his team in rehab than on the mound. Or, accept the fact when someone told him that was the case. ---
**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 1:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/13 "2015-10-07T01:24:47Z")
I don’t believe in the disease theory of alcoholism and I think this was a lousy thing to do to his team. No, I don’t think the because he drank a lot the past week he’s an ‘alcoholic’ in need of 30 days of new age woo. Admittedly, I don’t follow the Yankees and actively avoid them on tv, but from his stats and fantasy numbers, it looks like he’s been basically a 5th starter and probably wouldn’t have had a big role in the playoffs, maybe as a long relief role for a game that gets way out of hand early. ---
**Author:** ![D\_Odds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/d_odds/32/2882_2.png) [@D\_Odds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/D_Odds)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/14 "2015-10-07T01:28:56Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I don’t believe in the disease theory of alcoholism. Then I’ll give your opinion on this subject the same consideration as I give a YEC’s on evolution. ---
**Author:** ![harmonicamoon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/65b543/32.png) [@harmonicamoon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/harmonicamoon)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/15 "2015-10-07T01:29:08Z")
It is kind of sad. With his money, he could have purchased many different mood changing drugs. But, he was forced into alcohol addiction because they don’t test for hangovers. I hope he has a speedy and effective rehab. ---
**Author:** ![TroutMan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troutman/32/6721_2.png) [@TroutMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroutMan)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/16 "2015-10-07T01:30:24Z")
> [@dalej42](#): > > I don’t believe in the disease theory of alcoholism and I think this was a lousy thing to do to his team. No, I don’t think the because he drank a lot the past week he’s an ‘alcoholic’ in need of 30 days of new age woo. Your opinion is noted and given all the consideration it deserves. ETA: ninja’d by **D\_Odds** ---
**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/17 "2015-10-07T03:41:31Z")
> [@ZipperJJ](#): > > There’s no real secrets kept from the press when it comes to the Yankees. I’m sure everything that needed to be done before the announcement was done, and everything was cleared. Then I wonder why the manager was quoted in today’s paper as saying he was “astonished” when he was told this week. ---
**Author:** ![Colibri](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colibri/32/1841_2.png) [@Colibri](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Colibri)\ **Post date:** [October 7, 2015, 4:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cc-sabathia-entering-alcohol-rehab/733659/18 "2015-10-07T04:12:26Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > Seems to me he’s broken his contract. No? Not if the Yankees agree that’s what he should do. From the [NY Times.](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/06/sports/yankees-cc-sabathia-enters-alcohol-rehab-will-miss-playoffs.html) > [@](#): > > Cashman said that Sabathia had reached out to him, Manager Joe Girardi and other team officials on Sunday and told them he needed help. > > … > > Sabathia’s wife, Amber, was involved in the discussions, and Cashman, Girardi and others encouraged Sabathia to seek treatment for alcohol abuse even if it meant he would not pitch for the remainder of the season.