# CDC says 1 million vaccinations given in 10 days. Is that possible?

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**Category:** The Quarantine Zone\
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**Created:** [December 24, 2020, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816 "2020-12-24T13:11:25Z")\
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**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 3:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/41 "2020-12-26T15:32:22Z")

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> [@FigNorton](#):
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> Yup.

Thank you very much.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/42 "2020-12-26T15:36:55Z")

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Wow, really large differences by state. Oklahoma has vaccinated less than 0.06% of its population, and Alaska has already vaccinated 1.5%.

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**Author:** ![FigNorton](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fignorton/32/5619_2.png) [@FigNorton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FigNorton)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/43 "2020-12-26T15:43:12Z")

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I would take the numbers with a grain of salt over the holidays though. I’m sure the reporting will be stilted.

No problem, @Paul_was_in_Saudi

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**Author:** ![Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/heffalump_and_roo/32/7691_2.png) [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Heffalump_and_Roo)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/44 "2020-12-26T16:10:18Z")

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I’ve been following the vaccine roll out and have posted about it in the [breaking news thread](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-breaking-news/847758/6254) in case you want to read more about it. As I noted on 12/25, 1M administered seems relatively low considering the 20M vaccines expected to be distributed by year end.

12/21/20

> [@Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-breaking-news/847758/6183):
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> Bloomberg has a [vaccine tracker](https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/). So far 1.8M people vaccinated worldwide with 556K in the US. Some of the state totals are really low. That might indicate the snafu with distribution in the beginning or it might just be the timing of the reporting. The rollout of the Moderna vaccine should bump up those numbers along with straightening out the distribution problems with the Pfizer vaccine. As of Dec. 20, 2020

12/23/20

> [@Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-breaking-news/847758/6212):
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> Updated vaccinated numbers from the [Bloomberg tracker](https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/) as of Dec. 22, 2020… 2.4M vaccinated in six countries. 778K in US.

12/25/20

> [@Coronavirus COVID-19 (2019-nCoV) Thread - 2020 Breaking News](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/coronavirus-covid-19-2019-ncov-thread-breaking-news/847758/6254):
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> The US is up to about 1M vaccines administered so far and expects another 4.67M to be distributed next week. I’m not entirely understanding what these numbers mean. There are 15.5M doses allocated, 4.67M doses distributed next week and 1M doses administered. Since the 4.67M doses puts them on track to have 20M doses distributed by year end and next week is year end, it sounds like the 15.5M doses that were allocated were also distributed, but that’s not clear from [the article](https://elintransigente.com/2020/12/u-s-to-distribute-4-67-million-covid-19-shots-next-week/). If 15.5M dose…

The uneven coverage in the states is possibly due to Operation Warp speed messing up the distribution. They have admitted their mistake and [apologized for it](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/world/operation-warp-speed-vaccine-delivery-problems.html).

> **[The head of Operation Warp Speed apologizes for shortfalls in vaccine...](https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/19/world/operation-warp-speed-vaccine-delivery-problems.html)**
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> States' plans for vaccinations have been disrupted.

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 5:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/45 "2020-12-26T17:00:14Z")

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There’s also a vaccine allocation planner that shows the allocations by state and type of priority group getting vaccinated. For instance, the first group are high risk workers in health care facilities. Then first responders, etc. This is just a model that goes by population and allocation so it doesn’t show how many vaccine have been given or even will be given.

> **[Vaccine Allocation Planner](https://covid19vaccineallocation.org/)**
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> When COVID-19 vaccines become available in the US, states will need to allocate them to their highest priority populations. The Vaccine Allocation Planner for COVID-19 helps state and county decision makers by estimating the size of these populations...

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**Author:** ![Magiver](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4491bb/32.png) [@Magiver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Magiver)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/46 "2020-12-26T17:52:28Z")

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> [@Heffalump\_and\_Roo](#):
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> There’s also a vaccine allocation planner that shows the allocations by state and type of priority group getting vaccinated. For instance, the first group are high risk workers in health care facilities. Then first responders, etc. This is just a model that goes by population and allocation so it doesn’t show how many vaccine have been given or even will be given.

Isn’t the disbursement within states up to the state once the FDA has signed off?

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**Author:** ![elfkin477](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/a9a28c/32.png) [@elfkin477](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elfkin477)\
**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/47 "2020-12-26T18:46:28Z")

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> [@FigNorton](#):
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> [https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/](https://www.bloomberg.com/graphics/covid-vaccine-tracker-global-distribution/)

Thanks!

And now I’m wondering what has gone so drastically wrong in my state. We’re only at .066% which seems to be the third least in the country. Neighboring Vermont has given over 10x that many, and Maine even more than that.

So far I’ve only seen one article that vaguely stated we’ve gotten “less” vaccine than promised…

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**Post date:** [December 26, 2020, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/48 "2020-12-26T18:54:08Z")

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Like I said, I’d be a little cautious about data updates during the holidays. It’s probably easier to get people to give injections than it is to get people to file reports at the moment.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/49 "2020-12-27T01:26:20Z")

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> [@puzzlegal](#):
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> I think the limiting factor, at least for several months, is going to be the vaccine supply, not the labor to jab people. So I expect the actual jab to be pretty ordinary, like a flu shot at a corporate flu-vaccine event.

Except that they, in the U.S., ask you to wait around for 15 minutes in case you get a rare severe reaction. This should slow things down.

I’ll walk right out. But I’m ornery like that.

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> Except that they, in the U.S., ask you to wait around for 15 minutes in case you get a rare severe reaction. This should slow things down.
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> I’ll walk right out. But I’m ornery like that.

Sitting in a waiting area, with one staff person watching for reactions for 15 minutes won’t slow things down significantly.

Wait 15 minutes, read the Dope on your phone. It would be respectful of the professionals who are going the extra mile to get you protected. Reacting while driving home will be vastly more disruptive and you or bystanders could be hurt. Do it for them, if not for you.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/51 "2020-12-27T03:01:56Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> Do it for them, if not for you.

You may be taking me a little too seriously.

But, to go in that direction, the data and policies regarding post-vaccine probably will change before they get to me.

We also don’t know what the atmosphere will be like if, say, five million shots are being given out that day. Is there full social distancing in the waiting room? Or are we waiting outside? If so, Is it snowing? (I hope, as it means the vaccine comes soon.) Is the site close, so I can walk home?

And is the 15 minute wait required in the U.K.? I trust their guidance a bit more than that in my own country.

When I gave blood last month, the volunteer greeter had his mask down. So I walked out immediately when my donation was done. C’est la vie.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 3:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/52 "2020-12-27T03:24:50Z")

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> We also don’t know what the atmosphere will be like if, say, five million shots are being given out that day. Is there full social distancing in the waiting room? Or are we waiting outside? If so, Is it snowing? (I hope, as it means the vaccine comes soon.) Is the site close, so I can walk home?

Since they’re vaccination according to CDC guidelines I’d be shocked if they weren’t doing solid distancing and correct mask wearing monitoring. If they aren’t say something. Give them about 30 seconds to correct and, yeah, walk out if they don’t. Would also be shocking if they don’t have you sitting in chairs for 15 minutes. They don’t want people fainting or reacting when standing and then falling down.

UK may be using different vaccines. Reaction risks may be different.

If you are going to walk home before the 15 minutes are up, have an epi-pen with you and a companion that knows CPR and has 911 on speed dial.

I’m a nurse who has done 1,000s of vaccinations~there are good reasons for the few minute’s wait.

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**Author:** ![PhillyGuy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ed655f/32.png) [@PhillyGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PhillyGuy)\
**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 3:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/53 "2020-12-27T03:55:03Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> UK may be using different vaccines

Only in clinical trials.

> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> Since they’re vaccination according to CDC guidelines . . .

[It depends where in the U.S. you live.](https://www.wftv.com/news/local/seminole-county/seminole-county-appointments-seniors-get-covid-19-vaccine-fill-up-hours/VAJIFZB2VVCP5OWCU3LCGGDGZU/)

But the Pennsylvania Department of Health says they follow all CDC guidelines, so what you are saying is probably true for me.

> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> I’m a nurse who has done 1,000s of vaccinations~there are good reasons for the few minute’s wait.

I swear! I’m a good patient. I’d only skip out early if it’s too hectic for you to notice (and consistent with guidance from countries with superior health systems).

And since everyone makes occasional mistakes, even when it is important to avoid them, I’m going to put in any questionnaire that you and your colleagues did a tremendously good job regardless 😀. . .

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> [@PhillyGuy](#):
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> I’m going to put in any questionnaire that you and your colleagues did a tremendously good job regardless 😀. . .

Much appreciated, I’ll be your nurse any time.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 4:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/55 "2020-12-27T04:35:15Z")

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> [@BippityBoppityBoo](#):
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> Sitting in a waiting area, with one staff person watching for reactions for 15 minutes won’t slow things down significantly.

And that person is going to be sitting there watching the other people whether or not you wait. You only consume extra resources if you actually have a bad reaction, which is very unlikely. And, you know, in that case you’d be glad you waited.

But like you, I’m wondering how well ventilated that waiting room is, and whether I’ll be standing it in the cold, and…

Although, I’m pretty late in line, so i suppose the weather may be nice by the time I get a chance to be vaccinated.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 8:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/56 "2020-12-27T08:17:32Z")

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> [@LSLGuy](#):
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> 1/232 is the equivalent of 3 cups in a 5 gallon bucket. Or about 1-1/4 cups in a 2 gallon bucket. Far more than “a drop”.

Uh, no, 1/232 of 5 gallons is 1/3rd of a cup and 1/232 of 2 gallons is 2.2 tbsp.

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> [@Shalmanese](#):
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> Uh, no, 1/232 of 5 gallons is 1/3rd of a cup and 1/232 of 2 gallons is 2.2 tbsp.

Good catch. I’m off by a factor of about 8. Let’s hear it for non-metric unit conversions done in my head. Should’ve let Google do that. :smack:

But even a couple tablespoons is a bunch more than a drop. I know **ace** was being metaphorical, but I was closer than he was. You of course got it correct.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 2:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/58 "2020-12-27T14:22:58Z")

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looking at my state’s dashboard the total as of 12/26 is 50,601 vacinated or .43%. IF (and I say IF) those over 60 were all nursing home recipients it would be 20% of that demographic. I wish they would specifically break out that group so we can keep track of them.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/59 "2020-12-27T18:42:24Z")

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> [@elfkin477](#):
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> now I’m wondering what has gone so drastically wrong in my state. We’re only at .066% which seems to be the third least in the country. Neighboring Vermont has given over 10x that many, and Maine even more than that.
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> So far I’ve only seen one article that vaguely stated we’ve gotten “less” vaccine than promised…

Turns out that somehow we’ve distributed [less than 5000 doses](http://indepthnh.org/2020/12/24/veterans-home-residents-get-vaccinated-against-covid-19-in-tilton/) so far. Good lord.

> Dr. Beth Daly of the Department of Health and Human Services, said in the past week, since the initial rollout, there have been 4,505 Pfizer doses sent to hospitals. They used 3,819 to help protect front line workers.

Later they mentioned that an unknown number of the Moderna vaccine unexpected arrived (but haven’t been given out) and there will be a dashboard to track the number of vaccinated people tomorrow.

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**Post date:** [December 27, 2020, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cdc-says-1-million-vaccinations-given-in-10-days-is-that-possible/928816/60 "2020-12-27T21:52:31Z")

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If you keep reusing the same needle with the vaccine in a 45 gallon drum, you could rip through a lotta vaccine. 😲

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