# Ceasefire! Israel and Hamas Jan 15, 2025 Breaking News

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**Created:** [January 15, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026 "2025-01-15T22:24:51Z")\
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**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\
**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/1 "2025-01-15T22:24:51Z")

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> According to the document, Israel will release 1,000 Palestinian prisoners who were arrested on October 8, 2023, but were not involved in Hamas’ attack on Israel the day before.

> Of the 33 hostages Hamas is expected to release, nine who are ill and injured will be exchanged for 110 Palestinian prisoners with life sentences, according to the document.

> Under phase one of the deal, Israeli forces will gradually reduce their presence along the Philadelphi Corridor, a narrow strip of land along the Egypt-Gaza border, and begin withdrawing after the last of the 33 hostages is released. Its forces will complete their withdrawal by day 50, under phase two of the deal, according to the document.

> It also says Israel will work on getting the Rafah border crossing ready as soon as the agreement is signed to facilitate the return of displaced civilians. On the seventh day after the deal takes effect, unarmed pedestrians will be allowed to return to the north, without undergoing inspection, while vehicles will be able to return after being inspected by a third party.

> **[Live updates: Israel and Hamas agree to Gaza ceasefire and hostage deal | CNN](https://www.cnn.com/world/live-news/israel-hamas-gaza-ceasefire-hostages-01-15-24/index.html)**
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> Israel and Hamas have agreed to a deal that will pause fighting in Gaza and lead to the phased release of hostages and Palestinian prisoners, Qatar’s prime minister has confirmed. Follow for live news updates.

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**Post date:** [January 15, 2025, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/2 "2025-01-15T22:33:41Z")

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Good news.

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**Author:** ![StarvingButStrong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/starvingbutstrong/32/335_2.png) [@StarvingButStrong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StarvingButStrong)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/3 "2025-01-16T00:59:30Z")

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And what a shame Biden will be able to announce (and take credit!) for it before Trump can triumphantly solve the problem two weeks after his inauguration.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/4 "2025-01-16T01:01:51Z")

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To be honest, I’m kind of hoping _someone_ can nominate Joe Biden for the Nobel Peace Prize for his role in securing the cease-fire, because, if he won, that would cause Donald Trump’s head to explode (figuratively) when the announcement is made.

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**Author:** ![Whack-a-Mole](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/whack-a-mole/32/141_2.png) [@Whack-a-Mole](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whack-a-Mole)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 1:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/5 "2025-01-16T01:04:05Z")

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I’m a bit surprised. I thought Trump maybe had some deal with Iran to make a peace deal happen 10 minutes after he was inaugurated a-la Reagan and the hostages in Iran.

I am curious about the political thinking behind all of this (I seriously doubt it was chance it happened this way).

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/6 "2025-01-16T01:07:41Z")

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> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> And what a shame Biden will be able to announce (and take credit!) for it before Trump can triumphantly solve the problem two weeks after his inauguration.

Trump will do this anyway. Trumpists will believe him.

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**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 1:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/7 "2025-01-16T01:10:43Z")

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I’m heartened to see that this has finally happened, though it’s taken far too long.

> [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> And what a shame Biden will be able to announce (and take credit!) for it before Trump can triumphantly solve the problem two weeks after his inauguration.

> [@Whack-a-Mole](#):
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> I thought Trump maybe had some deal with Iran to make a peace deal happen 10 minutes after he was inaugurated a-la Reagan and the hostages in Iran.

A week ago, Trump had publicly warned that he wanted to see the hostages released, _before_ he took office:

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> President-elect [Donald Trump](https://www.cnn.com/politics/president-donald-trump-47) warned that if the hostages whom Hamas is still holding in Gaza are not released by his inauguration on January 20, “all hell will break out in the Middle East” – offering one more stark indication of how much the incoming president would prefer to avoid inheriting the Israel-Hamas war as he prepares to take office in less than two weeks.
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> “It will not be good for Hamas and it will not be good, frankly, for anyone. All hell will break out. I don’t have to say anymore, but that’s what it is,” Trump said in remarks at his Mar-a-Lago estate in Florida on Tuesday, adding that “there should have never been” the October 7, 2023, attack by Hamas on Israel.

> **[Trump warns ‘all hell will break out’ if Gaza hostages aren’t released before...](https://www.cnn.com/2025/01/07/politics/trump-warning-gaza-hostages-negotiations-inauguration/index.html)**
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> President-elect Donald Trump warned that if the hostages whom Hamas is still holding in Gaza are not released by his inauguration on January 20, “all hell will break out in the Middle East” – offering one more stark indication of how much the...

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/8 "2025-01-16T01:12:51Z")

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Isn’t Hamas still holding considerably more than 33 Israeli hostages?

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 1:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/9 "2025-01-16T01:12:54Z")

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So the guy who ran on no wars threatened war would be his first act.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 1:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/10 "2025-01-16T01:18:51Z")

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> [@thorny\_locust](#):
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> Isn’t Hamas still holding considerably more than 33 Israeli hostages?

According to this:

> **[Gaza ceasefire deal: What do we know?](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cy5klgv5zv0o)**
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> What we know so far about the ceasefire deal agreed between Israel and Hamas.

> Hamas seized 251 hostages when it attacked Israel in October 2023. It is still holding 94 captive, although Israel believes that only 60 are still alive.

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**Author:** ![thorny\_locust](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/thorny_locust/32/431_2.png) [@thorny\_locust](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thorny_locust)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 1:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/11 "2025-01-16T01:21:51Z")

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I just checked NPR, which says there are three phases; the 33 to be released in the first phase, “male soldiers” in the second, and bodies of the deceased in the third.

NPR also says that it isn’t quite a done deal yet – that there are still details to be worked out, and it needs to be ratified by Israel’s cabinet.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/12 "2025-01-16T02:33:06Z")

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I imagine that Gaza realized that any future deal won’t be nearly as good and it seems like a pretty good deal given current circumstances.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/13 "2025-01-16T03:20:13Z")

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I checked NPR and got this:

Biden’s outgoing ambassador to Israel, Jacob J. Lew, told NPR on Friday that the unpredictability of Trump, and concerns about what his administration would do if a deal is not reached, are driving the momentum.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/14 "2025-01-16T03:34:35Z")

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Another perspective on the effects of Trump on the cease fire: [https://www.timesofisrael.com/arab-official-trump-envoy-swayed-netanyahu-more-in-one-meeting-than-biden-did-all-year/](https://www.timesofisrael.com/arab-official-trump-envoy-swayed-netanyahu-more-in-one-meeting-than-biden-did-all-year/)

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 6:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/15 "2025-01-16T06:21:14Z")

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> [@RickJay](#):
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> > [@StarvingButStrong](#):
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> > And what a shame Biden will be able to announce (and take credit!) for it before Trump can triumphantly solve the problem two weeks after his inauguration.
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> Trump will do this anyway. Trumpists will believe him.

Tuned in to Fox News to see what the reaction was. The headline on their 11 p.m. show was something along the lines of “Ceasefire announced following tough talk from Trump.” They were also lambasting Biden for not giving Trump enough credit for this deal.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/16 "2025-01-16T14:49:58Z")

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Whole thing currently on hold due to (to me at least) unclear reasons:

> **[Netanyahu delays ceasefire vote, claiming Hamas created a 'last minute crisis'](https://www.npr.org/2025/01/16/nx-s1-5262339/israel-hamas-netanyahu-ceasefire)**
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> The deal was set to be ratified by Israeli Cabinet on Thursday. But Netanyahu says, without specifying, that Hamas has gone back on several parts of the ceasefire agreement at the last minute.

ETA: I’m not surprised. This whole thing has been on and off again so many times already. Maybe it will go through. Maybe, if it does go through, it’ll hold together for more than a couple of days or a couple of weeks. But the history both of this specific mess and of the last 75 years doesn’t bode well.

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**Post date:** [January 16, 2025, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/17 "2025-01-16T17:01:48Z")

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I’ve seen it pointed out that Trump claiming credit for this deal would be proclaiming that he’d feloniously violated the Logan Act, but I’m sure he’ll face consequences for that…(eyeroll emoji)

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**Post date:** [January 17, 2025, 6:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/18 "2025-01-17T18:48:03Z")

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Some progress:

> **[Israel's security cabinet approves Gaza ceasefire and hostage deal](https://www.npr.org/2025/01/17/nx-s1-5262972/israel-hamas-war-ceasefire-cabinet-vote)**
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> Israel's security cabinet has voted to approve a ceasefire deal to end the fighting in Gaza. Full cabinet approval is expected later today.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 9:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/19 "2025-01-18T21:14:34Z")

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I see that there’s another “delay.” This smacks of 1981, when the release of the hostages from Iran was delayed, and The Version I Heard Was, it was to make sure that Reagan was President when the release happened.

On the other hand, if they time it so it starts five minutes before Trump takes the oath, it would taking the focus away from Trump’s inauguration.

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**Post date:** [January 18, 2025, 9:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ceasefire-israel-and-hamas-jan-15-2025-breaking-news/1013026/20 "2025-01-18T21:23:13Z")

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Even if the hostages aren’t released until after Trump takes office, it’s clear that the negotiations went on (with involvement from Steven Witkoff, expected as special envoy to the Middle East in the Trump administration) during the Biden administration.

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