# Cecil: The slaughtered lion **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [July 29, 2015, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532 "2015-07-29T22:47:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Enter\_the\_Flagon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enter_the_Flagon)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/21 "2015-07-30T15:49:50Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > At least his dental practice is ruined. Now all he needs to be elected to Congress is for Obama to publicly criticize poaching. ---
**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 11:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/22 "2015-07-30T23:29:22Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > The sexual harassment is irrelevant. I disagree – it’s more evidence of a pattern of “rules are for other people” special-snowflakery. Fuck him with a habanero-basted pineapple. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/23 "2015-07-30T23:32:35Z")
> [@Steve\_MB](#): > > I disagree – it’s more evidence of a pattern of “rules are for other people” special-snowflakery. I don’t think it’s that clear cut, and it’s not necessary to consider it in light of actual crimes directly related to this incident. His prior violations show his \*mens rea \*in this new incident. Also, thank you **Johnny L.A.** for straightening me out on the facts. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [July 30, 2015, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/24 "2015-07-30T23:42:04Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Also, thank you **Johnny L.A.** for straightening me out on the facts. All I did was post the information after you said you were unaware of a previous conviction. No ‘straightening out’ involved. 😉 I almost didn’t copy the sexual harassment text, but it was only a couple of sentences and that case did reference his previous poaching conviction. So I did. ---
**Author:** ![Machine\_Elf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/82dd89/32.png) [@Machine\_Elf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Machine_Elf)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/25 "2015-07-31T03:23:13Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > That said, the way the Internet in general and Twitter in particular allows the entire world to pile onto an individual to the point where their entire life can be ruined is terrifying to me. I tend to agree. We’ve reached a civilized age in which vigilante justice is no longer meted out by a pitchfork-wielding mob composed of most of the people in the village. These days, it’s just a tiny fraction of the villagers who continue to exhibit that kind of behavior; unfortunately, the village is now composed of several hundred million people. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 6:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/26 "2015-07-31T18:06:46Z")
> [@Quimby](#): > > That said, the way the Internet in general and Twitter in particular allows the entire world to pile onto an individual to the point where their entire life can be ruined is terrifying to me. The internet jerks are going after his daughters’ dance studio as well. Idiots are posting 1 star reviews to her yelp page just to bitch about the lion. > **[American Classic Ballroom - Victoria, MN](https://www.yelp.com/biz/american-classic-ballroom-victoria-2)** > > Specialties: American Classic Ballroom strives to offer the best ballroom dance instruction in the Twin Cities. We are an independently owned studio focused on the artistry, technique and expression of dance. Our professional instructors teach in a... People are assholes when they can be anonymous over the internet and not face any consequences. ---
**Author:** ![QuickSilver](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quicksilver/32/7832_2.png) [@QuickSilver](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/QuickSilver)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/27 "2015-07-31T18:27:11Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > The internet jerks are going after his daughters’ dance studio as well. Idiots are posting 1 star reviews to her yelp page just to bitch about the lion. > > [http://www.yelp.com/biz/american-classic-ballroom-chanhassen](http://www.yelp.com/biz/american-classic-ballroom-chanhassen) > > People are assholes when they can be anonymous over the internet and not face any consequences. In all fairness, looks like there is an equal number of posted ‘reviews’ from people who are not customers but are standing up for the studio saying it isn’t fair to attack/judge her for the sins of the father. ---
**Author:** ![sparky\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@sparky\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sparky_1)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 8:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/28 "2015-07-31T20:29:40Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > The internet jerks are going after his daughters’ dance studio as well. Idiots are posting 1 star reviews to her yelp page just to bitch about the lion. > > [http://www.yelp.com/biz/american-classic-ballroom-chanhassen](http://www.yelp.com/biz/american-classic-ballroom-chanhassen) > > People are assholes when they can be anonymous over the internet and not face any consequences. Wow. Unreal. I wonder if there are legal ramifications against the idiots giving false 1-star reviews. If not, there should be. ---
**Author:** ![Drunky\_Smurf](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drunky_smurf/32/449_2.png) [@Drunky\_Smurf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drunky_Smurf)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/29 "2015-07-31T20:36:00Z")
> [@QuickSilver](#): > > In all fairness, looks like there is an equal number of posted ‘reviews’ from people who are not customers but are standing up for the studio saying it isn’t fair to attack/judge her for the sins of the father. Thankfully because of the defenders her review is back up. When I first noticed it, someone posted it on Imgur, she was at a 1 1/2 star. Now it looks like she’s up to four. Now whether she legitimately deserves a four I do not know. > [@sparky\_1](#): > > Wow. Unreal. > > I wonder if there are legal ramifications against the idiots giving false 1-star reviews. > > If not, there should be. I doubt there’s anything legally that’ll happen to the jerks but Yelp could definitely step in and do something like locking her account so no one can review her studio until this whole thing blows over. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [July 31, 2015, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/30 "2015-07-31T20:53:26Z")
> [@Drunky\_Smurf](#): > > I doubt there’s anything legally that’ll happen to the jerks but Yelp could definitely step in and do something like locking her account so no one can review her studio until this whole thing blows over. Or lock out the people who are posting those fake reviews. Is Yelp an anonymous service? ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/31 "2015-08-01T19:23:29Z")
[Cecil the Lion’s brother killed](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3182428/Cecil-s-brother-Jericho-shot-dead-poachers-Zimbabwean-park.html) > [@](#): > > Cecil the lion’s brother Jericho has been shot dead by poachers in a park in Zimbabwe, officials working for the park claim. > > The beloved animal was protecting Cecil’s lion cubs after he was shot dead by Minnesota dentist Walter Palmer earlier this month, sparking outrage around the world. > > Jericho was reportedly gunned down during an illegal hunting operation in Hwange National Park on Saturday afternoon. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 8:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/32 "2015-08-01T20:34:02Z")
Cecil’s brother Jericho may still be alive. He had tracking device on him that is still moving. ---
**Author:** ![JVDaly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/edb3f5/32.png) [@JVDaly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JVDaly)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/33 "2015-08-01T20:36:50Z")
Anyone else notice that ‘Walter Palmer’ is a perfect anagram for ‘Real warm pelt’? ---
**Author:** ![Senegoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senegoid/32/6606_2.png) [@Senegoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Senegoid)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 9:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/34 "2015-08-01T21:19:36Z")
> [@TriPolar](#): > > Cecil’s brother Jericho may still be alive. He had tracking device on him that is still moving. Something’s garbled in the news here. [This news article (and apparently others like it)](http://abcnews.go.com/International/cecil-lions-brother-jericho-shot-killed-zimbabwe-conservation/story?id=32826392) clearly says that Jericho either was or wasn’t shot by another illegal poacher. Hey, what more could we ask? That seems to cover the possibilities. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/35 "2015-08-01T21:27:16Z")
> [@Senegoid](#): > > This news article clearly says that Jericho either was or wasn’t shot by another illegal poacher. Hey, what more could we ask? That seems to cover the possibilities. Maybe the poacher was named Schroedinger. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![jimbuff314](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/c57346/32.png) [@jimbuff314](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jimbuff314)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/36 "2015-08-01T21:51:04Z")
If the cat in the box was a lion, that would put a new spin on quantum uncertainty, wouldn’t it? I’m thinking a -1/2 spin, the other half of the physicist being saved for later munchies by the big cat. ---
**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/37 "2015-08-01T23:17:40Z")
> [@JVDaly](#): > > Anyone else notice that ‘Walter Palmer’ is a perfect anagram for ‘Real warm pelt’? I’m stealing that. ---
**Author:** ![bobot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bobot/32/21622_2.png) [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/38 "2015-08-01T23:24:10Z")
Tough guy dentist little bitty pecker guy might, MIGHT have been thinking: Better kill that lion, why? Kuz I’m a 'murican tough-guy, that’s why. It isn’t like the lion is used to people, and allowed people to be near it. > **[In pictures: Zimbabwe's Cecil the lion](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-33740776)** > > A selection of photos of Zimbabwe's famous lion, Cecil, who was killed by US dentist Walter Palmer on 1 July. That wouldn’t be tough. Or cool. ---
**Author:** ![CerebrAl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@CerebrAl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CerebrAl)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/39 "2015-08-01T23:37:02Z")
> [@](#): > > According to police spokeswoman Charity Charamba, Palmer will face charges of poaching, the AP reported. Emmanuel Fundira, the president of the Safari Operators Association of Zimbabwe, said that Palmer’s whereabouts are currently unknown. > > The conservation group alleges that Palmer worked with the guides to lure Cecil from the national park to an unprotected area by strapping a “dead animal to their vehicle.” > > Once the animal was off the national park land, Palmer allegedly shot Cecil with a bow and arrow, but did not kill him. The group then tracked the wounded animal for 40 hours, ultimately shooting and killing him, Rodrigues said. Cecil was skinned and beheaded. > > “The saddest part of all is that now that Cecil is dead, the next lion in the hierarchy…will most likely kill all Cecil’s cubs so that he can insert his own bloodline into the females,” Rodrigues said. > > A stateside official expressed anger, too. U.S. Rep. Betty McCollum, a Minnesota Democrat, in a statement late Tuesday called for an investigation by the U.S. Attorney’s Office and the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service to see whether any U.S. laws were violated. > > The two Zimbabwean men facing charges include a landowner and a professional hunter, according to a joint statement from the Zimbabwe Parks and Wildlife Management Authority and Safari Operators Association. > > Neither of the men had a hunting permit, making the kill illegal, according to the statement. > > Palmer, 55, told the Minnesota Star Tribune earlier Tuesday that “some things are being misreported,” in regard to the lion’s death. [URL=“[Minnesota dentist allegedly killed Cecil the lion](http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/07/28/minnesota-dentist-walter-james-palmer-cecil-lion-africa/30785881/)”] Dr. Walter James Palmer is going to pay one way or another. Luring the lion out of the park with the meat, then shooting the lion (probably from the vehicle…my guess/not a fact…yet) all the while knowing that the lion had become accustom to safely approaching vehicles…which is how he became famous in the first place, leads him (Dr. Palmer) well short of the “sportsman category” in my book. This is going to cost him and he has only himself to blame. Stupid move…very stupid. No sympathy from me… So he is claiming ignorance saying that the guide was directing the hunt…not buying it…not right now anyway. he was a very experienced hunter, been on Safari before…he let his “Passion” get the best of him. ---
**Author:** ![CerebrAl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5f8ce5/32.png) [@CerebrAl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CerebrAl)\ **Post date:** [August 1, 2015, 11:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532/40 "2015-08-01T23:39:51Z")
I don’t ever plan on killing one. But maybe it’s supposed to go like this?? Dunno :dubious: Oh yea…this might be too much for some…but…not worse than a 60’s Tarzan movie [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cecil-the-slaughtered-lion/726532.md?page=3)