# Celebrities you were surprised to find out were straight

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**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Created:** [February 22, 2010, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024 "2010-02-22T20:53:10Z")\
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**Author:** ![ministryman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f6c823/32.png) [@ministryman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ministryman)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 5:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/61 "2010-02-23T17:54:22Z")

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Alton Brown…

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**Author:** ![Tamerlane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tamerlane/32/7602_2.png) [@Tamerlane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tamerlane)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 5:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/62 "2010-02-23T17:58:28Z")

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> [@kidneyfailure](#):
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> Greg Norton, the bassist from Husker Du. I mean, look at that goddamn mustache:

That’s a good one. Knowing the other two members were gay, I automatically assumed Norton was as well, based in part on that impressive 'stache.

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**Author:** ![LH75](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lh75/32/4438_2.png) [@LH75](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LH75)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/63 "2010-02-23T18:00:58Z")

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> [@ministryman](#):
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> Alton Brown…

Me too. I was under the impression that Alton was gay for years

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**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/64 "2010-02-23T18:57:31Z")

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> [@LH75](#):
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> Me too. I was under the impression that Alton was gay for years

Theater major, though, which is up there with being a Brit for inducing confusion.

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**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 8:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/65 "2010-02-23T20:15:49Z")

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> [@McGeek](#):
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> The only shock for me is that anybody would think the dog whisperer is gay.  
> I’m a straight female who has never had any fag-hag tendencies whatsoever, and I think Cesar Milan is HOT! Oozing with maleness, in fact. To use the crude vernacular, I would totally hit that.

Not to mention the fact that the majority of dog owners he’s helping are attractive women. He doesn’t outright flirt, but you can tell he appreciates what he’s looking at.

I don’t know that I’ve ever seen him help a man – husbands sometimes, but I haven’t seen him do a show with a guy.

Hmmmm. Maybe that’s just to throw us off. (But I doubt it.)

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**Author:** ![Invisible\_Chimp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/f05b48/32.png) [@Invisible\_Chimp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Invisible_Chimp)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/66 "2010-02-23T20:17:14Z")

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Seth MacFarlane

Keith Olbermann

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**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 8:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/67 "2010-02-23T20:50:29Z")

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> [@Ataraxy](#):
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> Seth MacFarlane
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> Keith Olbermann

Seth MacFarlane??

I can kind of see Keith Olbermann though.

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**Author:** ![Surly\_Chick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Surly\_Chick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Surly_Chick)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/68 "2010-02-23T20:54:53Z")

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> [@Bijou\_Drains](#):
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> You can have a wife and be gay, ask Mrs. Larry Craig, Mrs. Ted Haggard, McGreevey’s ex, and so on.

Or all of Liza Minnelli’s husbands…

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/69 "2010-02-23T21:02:42Z")

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Frank Bielic from _Trading Spaces_.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/70 "2010-02-23T21:03:31Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> Seth MacFarlane??

He loves to say things like “I enjoy a good ass fuck as much as the next man and know way more show tunes than any straight man should but I prefer women” (an actual quote from a Bill Maher appearance).

[QUOTE=joebuck]  
I can kind of see Keith Olbermann though.  
[/QUOTE]

There used to be a list of encounters with celebrities by waitresses, flight attendants, and other working people and I remember he was one of the "horndog who’ll try to ‘I’m a rich celebrity’ you into bed’ list.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 9:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/71 "2010-02-23T21:05:29Z")

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> [@HelloNinja](#):
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> A friend of mine in the NYC theater scene swears that it’s common knowledge that Matthew Broderick is gay and he and Sarah Jessica Parker have a sham marriage. Not sure I buy it, though he could most definitely be bi.

I’ve heard that rumor many times also. I remember thinking though that even if they are both gay (and certainly I wouldn’t be among those who knew) and even if they don’t have sex together, it doesn’t mean it’s a sham marriage- just an unconventional one.

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**Author:** ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/72 "2010-02-23T21:20:07Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> > [@McGeek](#):
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> > The only shock for me is that anybody would think the dog whisperer is gay.  
> > I’m a straight female who has never had any fag-hag tendencies whatsoever, and I think Cesar Milan is HOT! Oozing with maleness, in fact. To use the crude vernacular, I would totally hit that.
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> Not to mention the fact that the majority of dog owners he’s helping are attractive women. He doesn’t outright flirt, but you can tell he appreciates what he’s looking at.
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> I don’t know that I’ve ever seen him help a man – husbands sometimes, but I haven’t seen him do a show with a guy.
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> Hmmmm. Maybe that’s just to throw us off. (But I doubt it.)

He seems to have a mix of clients. He’s had male couples, female couples, singles, etc.

Anyway he just _looks_ gay. Like he has Gay hair or something. And he has an effeminate voice. It surprised me that he had a wife and kid.

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**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/73 "2010-02-23T21:20:28Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Frank Bielic from _Trading Spaces_.

This. Oooooh, this. Every time he talks about his wife my eyes roll. Actually, the first time he mentioned his wife my involuntary reaction was to shout “WHAT?!”

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**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/74 "2010-02-23T21:30:32Z")

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> [@joebuck20](#):
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> I can kind of see Keith Olbermann though.

I think what’s happening are that people are confusing his supercilious, very self-satisfied smirk with this sort of [simper](http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://dataadept.files.wordpress.com/2008/12/boy_george.jpg&imgrefurl=http://dataadept.wordpress.com/2008/12/05/boy-george-on-trial-for-chaining-man-to-wall/&usg=__W-jPNinVS1_LydJ_DshsOwAl0l0=&h=400&w=276&sz=37&hl=en&start=12&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=6eTl5OoatCtTMM:&tbnh=124&tbnw=86&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dboy%2Bgeorge%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Doff%26tbs%3Disch:1).

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/75 "2010-02-23T21:38:44Z")

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Does anybody remember the character of Gil from FRASIER? He was the so obviously gay food critic whose wife was “one of Seattle’s most prominent automotive repair technicians”. He was slightly more closeted than Leslie Jordan’s Beverly Leslie on WILL & GRACE.

Here’s a question:

You meet a LOT of those men in the south. I call them the "Queer Paw-Paw Brigade- effeminate aging or old men who were gay in a time and place where that wasn’t an option so they married and had kids and now talk incessantly about the grandbabies and the begonias in some order and can lisp during a sneeze. They range the gamut from exceptionally nice and wonderful people to absolutely disgusting old trolls, are often extremely religious, and make you double take whenever they mention their wife.

They’re almost an archetype down here. They usually have the Gil or Leslie Jordan voice with a combination of southern bygone and acid bitch, so I think of them often as a southern phenomena.

The question though: excepting gay priests, do other parts of the country that aren’t quite as conservative have these men? Would you be likely for example to meet an effeminate old Jewish guy in Brooklyn who prattles on about his baking and flowers he’s arranging for for his granddaughter’s bat-mitzvah, or a femme corn farmer in Indiana who decorates his tractor with seat covers he crocheted himself or an old married lawyer in Seattle who can talk for hours about how much he adored Gene Kelly? Or is it more of a Bible Belt thing?

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**Author:** ![wunderkammer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/ed8c4c/32.png) [@wunderkammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wunderkammer)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 9:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/76 "2010-02-23T21:42:25Z")

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[But he’s in Depeche Mode!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeCW_u6j8Ps)

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**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 9:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/77 "2010-02-23T21:59:51Z")

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In the other thread, someone mentioned that Andrew Ridgeley was straight. This comes as a great shock to me. **Panache45** , what say you?

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**Author:** ![Huerta88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/82dd89/32.png) [@Huerta88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Huerta88)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/78 "2010-02-23T22:02:17Z")

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> [@wunderkammer](#):
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> [But he’s in Depeche Mode!](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qeCW_u6j8Ps)

Did someone cite this yet?

> **[Robert Smith (musician)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Smith_(musician))**
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> Robert James Smith (born 21 April 1959) is an English musician who is the co-founder, lead vocalist, guitarist, primary songwriter, and only continuous member of the Cure, a post-punk band formed in 1976. His guitar-playing style (including his use of the Fender Bass VI), distinctive singing voice, and fashion sense (often sporting a pale complexion, smeared red lipstick, black eye-liner, unkempt wiry black hair, and all-black clothes) were highly influential on the goth subculture that rose t...

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 10:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/79 "2010-02-23T22:03:03Z")

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Of course a person’s sexual orientation is what they say it is, at least until you have proof otherwise, so that compliments the “outed as straight” thing. Many gay men- probably most of the ones on the Dope and even those of us who aren’t generally closeted- have passed as straight before.

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**Author:** ![middleman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e9a140/32.png) [@middleman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/middleman)\
**Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrities-you-were-surprised-to-find-out-were-straight/530024/80 "2010-02-23T22:32:32Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> Tony Randall. Thought for sure he was gay but the man was married to his first wife for 50 years (until her death) and then, at 75, married a woman 50 years younger than him and fathered 2 children with her before his death 9 years later.

Announcer: The Password is…FLAMING  
Peter Griffin: You.  
Tony Randall: Actor!  
Peter Griffin: Youuu!  
Tony Randall: Tony?  
Peter Griffin: Yoooooouuuuuuu…

> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Dave Coulier always struck me as gay but again- in addition to his wife he’s been romantically associated with a couple of famous women.

One of the candidates for Alanis Morrisette’s “You Ought To Know” guy.

> [@Sampiro](#):
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> I don’t care if he has 18 illegitimate children and a girl in a gold bikini chained to his chair and Paris Hilton runs a website called “Cesar Millan is the best hetero sex I ever had dot com”, there is no way that man is straight. If he could pass a ‘peter meter’ test I’d give you my kidneys.

Dare I ask what the “peter meter” test is? I’d do a Google search, but…

> [@HelloNinja](#):
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> A friend of mine in the NYC theater scene swears that it’s common knowledge that Matthew Broderick is gay and he and Sarah Jessica Parker have a sham marriage. Not sure I buy it, though he could most definitely be bi.

The gossip I have heard is that it is an open marriage and she’s done Derek Jeter. I give zero credence to my sources, yet over the years celebrity gossip is true in part fairly often.

> [@Sampiro](#):
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> He loves to say things like “I enjoy a good ass fuck as much as the next man and know way more show tunes than any straight man should but I prefer women” (an actual quote from a Bill Maher appearance).

Great quote! I never thought Seth was gay. Just flamboyantly hetero.

> [@](#):
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> There used to be a list of encounters with celebrities by waitresses, flight attendants, and other working people and I remember he was one of the "horndog who’ll try to ‘I’m a rich celebrity’ you into bed’ list.

I’d love to see that site if anyone has it!

> [@Johnny\_L.A](#):
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> Anyway he just _looks_ gay. Like he has Gay hair or something. And he has an effeminate voice. It surprised me that he had a wife and kid.

How you can hear his effeminate voice? He’s whispers!

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