# Celebritites who are/were universally despised by their peers

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**Created:** [October 21, 2015, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357 "2015-10-21T14:48:07Z")\
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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/21 "2015-10-21T16:36:34Z")

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Norman Lear portrays Carroll O’Connor as very difficult, temperamental, and neurotic in his memoir. They had pretty much weekly screaming matches while filming _All in the Family_.

Maggie Smith’s director in _Downton Abbey_ described her as difficult. She later walked it back to “She knows her worth.”

Rue MacLanahan and Betty White both acknowledged that Bea Arthur was very difficult to work with.

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/22 "2015-10-21T17:18:52Z")

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Tom Arnold, of course  
John Lennon, sadly  
Not many fond testimonials of Al Capp, Sid Vicious or Larry Flynt  
Tina Louise

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**Author:** ![Horatio\_Hellpop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e5b9ba/32.png) [@Horatio\_Hellpop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Horatio_Hellpop)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/23 "2015-10-21T17:20:54Z")

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There is a room in Hell where Pablo Picasso and Mother Teresa are squaring off with one another for all eternity.

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**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/24 "2015-10-21T17:23:19Z")

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Wasn’t there something odd about Fred MacMurray and My Three Sons?

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/25 "2015-10-21T17:30:03Z")

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Gwyneth Paltrow.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/26 "2015-10-21T17:31:18Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> Wasn’t there something odd about Fred MacMurray and My Three Sons?

MacMurray would shoot all his scenes in just a few days at the beginning of the season. I don’t recall that this led to problems, and I think in some cases he did come back in to read lines during the season. This accommodation was made so the producers could afford to have him in the series, he was a major film leading man at the time. That’s all I know about it though, he may have had problems with producers, especially with the changing set of sons he had on the show.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 5:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/27 "2015-10-21T17:35:35Z")

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I don’t know if it goes to the level of “universally despised” but I’ve heard Natalie Portman can be difficult to be around.

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**Author:** ![Duckster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duckster/32/1244_2.png) [@Duckster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duckster)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/28 "2015-10-21T17:38:13Z")

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> [@ivylass](#):
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> Wasn’t there something odd about Fred MacMurray and My Three Sons?

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> At [Fred MacMurray](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0534045)’s insistence, all episodes were filmed out of sequence during the show’s entire run using a technique now known as the MacMurray method. MacMurray would do all of his scenes in 65 nonconsecutive days. The cast regulars got haircuts once a week in order to maintain continuity. Guest stars would have to return months later to complete an episode. All kitchen scenes would be done together, then all scenes in the upstairs hallway would be filmed together, etc. This fact was well concealed until [Dawn Lyn](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0528184) joined the cast as Dodie. Her upper front teeth grew in irregularly during the entire 1969-70 season, from being barely visible in scenes with MacMurray to being plainly visible in scenes without him. William Frawley never felt comfortable with this method of filming, having grown accustomed to filming I Love Lucy in sequence during its entire run.

[My Three Sons (TV Series 1960–1972) - Trivia - IMDb](http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0053525/trivia)

[The Sinister Side Of Fred Macmurray He Was So Nice For Tv And Disney,so Very Despicable In A Few Films](http://articles.philly.com/1991-11-10/entertainment/25768135_1_fred-macmurray-double-indemnity-movies).

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**Author:** ![AK84](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85e7bf/32.png) [@AK84](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AK84)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/29 "2015-10-21T17:39:02Z")

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Shawn Michaels.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/30 "2015-10-21T17:43:02Z")

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> [@LH75](#):
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> Everything I have read about him points to Steven Seagal as a huge asshole and bully

> [@Chimera](#):
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> I don’t think there’s anyone who can dispute that.

Steven Seagal can, and he’ll kick your ass!

😉

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/31 "2015-10-21T17:45:22Z")

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Dave Mustaine and Lars Ulrich aren’t exactly respected in the metal community for anything other than their chops - and they used to be in the same band.

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**Author:** ![pinkfreud](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pinkfreud/32/17603_2.png) [@pinkfreud](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pinkfreud)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/32 "2015-10-21T17:51:48Z")

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Ed Sullivan was widely disliked. Joe E. Lewis once said that Sullivan could brighten a room simply by leaving it.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/33 "2015-10-21T17:55:38Z")

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> [@AK84](#):
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> Shawn Michaels.

Quite true. He was well respected by many wrestlers because he helped raise everyone’s income and worked hard, but he was not well liked by other wrestlers. Many refused to room with him on the road, and of course there was that incident in Montreal.

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**Author:** ![Chimera](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/8e8cbc/32.png) [@Chimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chimera)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/34 "2015-10-21T19:06:11Z")

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> [@Tom\_Tildrum](#):
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> Steven Seagal can, and he’ll kick your ass!

“Wait, IS THAT THE MOB???” and walk away while he’s looking around in a panic.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/35 "2015-10-21T19:17:28Z")

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Surprised no one has mentioned Joe E Ross, who was featured in an accompanying thread.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/36 "2015-10-21T19:40:38Z")

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Joan Crawford

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**Author:** ![Jeff\_Lichtman](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jeff_lichtman/32/1531_2.png) [@Jeff\_Lichtman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jeff_Lichtman)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/37 "2015-10-21T20:07:10Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Joan Crawford

Joan Crawford was not universally despised. She had real friends in Hollywood, including Myrna Loy, Van Johnson and Marlene Dietrich. She had a reputation of being professional and hard-working.

I miss Eve. . .

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**Author:** ![John\_DiFool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_difool/32/19543_2.png) [@John\_DiFool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_DiFool)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/38 "2015-10-21T20:08:54Z")

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> [@Horatio\_Hellpop](#):
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> There is a room in Hell where Pablo Picasso and Mother Teresa are squaring off with one another for all eternity.

And William Shatner was responsible for putting them there?

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**Author:** ![jtur88](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e9c0ed/32.png) [@jtur88](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jtur88)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 8:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/39 "2015-10-21T20:11:57Z")

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Elizabeth Taylor (according to a colleague of mine who had worked as a cameraman for a Hollywood studio.)

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**Author:** ![cochrane](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cochrane/32/10441_2.png) [@cochrane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cochrane)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2015, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebritites-who-are-were-universally-despised-by-their-peers/735357/40 "2015-10-21T20:13:17Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Surprised no one has mentioned Joe E Ross, who was featured in an accompanying thread.

OOOH! OOOH! He was the first one I thought of.

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