# Celebrity Apprentice 2011 **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [March 1, 2011, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084 "2011-03-01T18:27:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/21 "2011-03-07T04:36:08Z")
> [@Munch](#): > > notfromensa - you’ve never heard of[Marlee Matlin](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0559144/)? I live in Hicksville USA. Reading the Wiki bio on her, I remember her on _Seinfeld_ and I guess I saw her on _Law and Order SVU_. But I never saw _Children of a Lesser God_ and I don’t watch _DWTS_. I have a sheltered life. Really sheltered. And I turned 50 yrs old today. :eek: ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 5:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/22 "2011-03-07T05:29:57Z")
Remember the band, Sugar Ray? Mark McGrath was the singer. I hate the cell phone challenges because they don’t prove anything but who has more rich friends. Hatch actually did a better job managing than Star. His whole crew did better at the nuts and bolts of cranking out the pizzas (and Hatch was totally right to call Partridge on that pitiful amount of chopped vegetables. You can tell Cassidy has never had a food service job. He didn’t have the slightest idea of the kind of quantities he needed, or when it is or isn’t ok to take a smoke break). The women just had more rich donors. It seems like the women always do better at these cell phone challenges because rich guys are more willing to pony up cash for women than for men. There wasn’t really anything Hatch or the guys could have done differently, they just didn’t have the phone numbers. I would have thought that meat Loaf, at least, would still have some well heeled contacts. What is he doing there anyway? Has he run out of all his _Bat out of Hell_ money already? I thought he had done pretty well over the years. I thought the whole flap with Hatch shoving Partidge was kind of overblown, by the way. It looked like Hatch was just preoccupied and pushing past him. Cassidy was kind of a wuss about it. I don’t know why Conseco cared. That was kind of weird. Didn’t he have a reputaion himself as a bullying jerk when he was a player? Maybe he’s different now that he’s off the juice. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/23 "2011-03-07T06:01:54Z")
Hatch managed circles around Star. It’ll blow up in her face - those flyers were really bad, putting Dionne at the register was asinine, realizing it was asinine and sticking with it was borderline neglect, and sending out 3 celebrities for $300 of pizza (and tying up the van) were all on Star. The shove was a little overblown, if not justified. Cassidy was in the middle of a circle discussion going on, yapping into his cell phone. The guy was clueless as to what sort of behavior is appropriate in a team environment. I can’t wait to get a post-season report from my cousin, who works on this show. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 2:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/24 "2011-03-07T14:45:03Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I would have thought that meat Loaf, at least, would still have some well heeled contacts. What is he doing there anyway? Has he run out of all his _Bat out of Hell_ money already? I thought he had done pretty well over the years. He’s also had a number of acting gigs over the years, most famously as Robert Paulson in “Fight Club.” ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/25 "2011-03-07T15:05:15Z")
I recall Marlee and Mark Harmon on Reasonable Doubts. She talked in that role and didn’t use an interpreter. Her speech isn’t bad at all. She’s easy to understand. But on Dancing with the Stars and now, Apprentice she doesn’t talk. I don’t really understand why. I hope she does ok on the show. That rapper with the white glasses bugged me. He even wore them in the boardroom. ---
**Author:** ![Munch](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/munch/32/5281_2.png) [@Munch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Munch)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 3:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/26 "2011-03-07T15:18:04Z")
I’m surprised there wasn’t a “little” joke made regarding Lil Jon. It’s in his name! ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/27 "2011-03-07T15:24:39Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > I recall Marlee and Mark Harmon on Reasonable Doubts. She talked in that role and didn’t use an interpreter. Her speech isn’t bad at all. She’s easy to understand. She also talked on Seinfeld. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/28 "2011-03-07T15:29:45Z")
I’m guessing that the producers think that audiences would be put off by her speech. I don’t think it would bother the audience at all, but television producers are a stupid and craven species. ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 5:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/29 "2011-03-07T17:01:03Z")
David Cassidy acted exactly like I expected him too, like a kid that grew up on stage having been pampered his whole life. He apparently has “little man syndrome” to boot. Richard Hatch was a jerk to him but he’s playing a game, one that he knows all too well. Calling Canseco unintelligent was probably a bad move. He may not be all that smart but Richard didn’t have to bring it to everyone’s attention. I can’t tell how much Busey is acting and how much is that he’s actually nuts. The women’s team was pretty much “meh” to me. I don’t see Dionne Warwick lasting very long. The first time that she is made PM, I’m afraid that she’ll lose horribly. Working a credit card machine is not that difficult. ---
**Author:** ![Motorgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e36b37/32.png) [@Motorgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Motorgirl)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/30 "2011-03-07T17:11:17Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > I’m guessing that the producers think that audiences would be put off by her speech. I don’t think it would bother the audience at all, but television producers are a stupid and craven species. She might be better at speaking when it is rehearsed, and feel uncomfortable with off-the-cuff, heat-of-the-moment verbal speech. ---
**Author:** ![Lare](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/53a042/32.png) [@Lare](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lare)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/31 "2011-03-07T17:15:22Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > I know that I am out of touch live a sheltered life, but I do not know the following ‘celebrities’: > > Lil Jon I haven’t been watching the show this season. Caught the last 10 minutes yesterday and my wife asked me who he was after hearing his name. I had to tell her I thought he must be one of Robin Hood’s men because other than Ms. Maitlin I didn’t know the rest of your list either. ---
**Author:** ![Lips\_Obsession](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bbce88/32.png) [@Lips\_Obsession](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lips_Obsession)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2011, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/32 "2011-03-07T17:32:01Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > She also talked on Seinfeld. She also had quite a few lines on West Wing when she was a character there… ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/33 "2011-03-08T02:09:58Z")
So I’m the only one who thought Hatch should have been fired? He was too abrasive and I don’t think he’ll be manageable when he’s not PM. Busey. Yes. More. There is a severe lack of interesting contestants on the women’s team. ---
**Author:** ![2ply](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/2/b2d939/32.png) [@2ply](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/2ply)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 8:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/34 "2011-03-08T20:07:22Z")
I wonder if the men were holding back their donors because they didn’t want to help Richard. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 8:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/35 "2011-03-08T20:22:21Z")
> [@Lare](#): > > I haven’t been watching the show this season. Caught the last 10 minutes yesterday and my wife asked me who he was after hearing his name. I had to tell her I thought he must be one of Robin Hood’s men because other than Ms. Maitlin I didn’t know the rest of your list either. That was the premiere, so none of us have been watching it for too long. ---
**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/36 "2011-03-08T20:27:08Z")
OK, so let’s all make a list of what celebrities we are familiar with and those we aren’t. I’m curious who knows who. Mahaloth: **Knows who they are:** Gary Busey Richard Hatch - I think they should have had the Battlestar Galactica Hatch, too, though. David Cassidy Niki Taylor Dionne Warwick Jose Canseco Star Jones Lisa Rinna - I don’t know how she got famous, though. Marlee Matlin Meat Loaf La Toya Jackson - I only know she’s Michael’s sister. An untalented one. **Never heard of:** Lil Jon Hope Dworaczyk John Rich NeNe Leakes Mark McGrath - I have heard this name, but no idea who he is really. ---
**Author:** ![Rebo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rebo/32/13005_2.png) [@Rebo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rebo)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/37 "2011-03-08T21:38:09Z")
This is my first time to watch Apprentice, and I already missed the premier. I saw Hatch, Conseco and Cassidy in front of Trump. I saw Cassidy get fired. Who is the woman in there with Trump? She seemed like a secretary/admin type. Reading all your posts, I think I might get the premise of the show. Groups are formed, and project managers run a project. This week’s project was to run a pizza parlor? For charity? Or was that two different tasks? How are the groups formed, and how is a PM assigned? Rebo: **Knows who they are:** Gary Busey Richard Hatch David Cassidy Dionne Warwick Jose Canseco Star Jones Marlee Matlin Meat Loaf La Toya Jackson **Never heard of:** Lil Jon Hope Dworaczyk John Rich NeNe Leakes Mark McGrath Niki Taylor Lisa Rinna ---
**Author:** ![Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/earl_snake-hips_tucker/32/3269_2.png) [@Earl\_Snake-Hips\_Tucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Earl_Snake-Hips_Tucker)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/38 "2011-03-08T21:50:26Z")
> [@Nars\_Glinley](#): > > David Cassidy . . . apparently has “little man syndrome” to boot. Maybe, maybe not. If the stories are correct, the Cassidy men (Jack, David, AND Shaun) are/were anything but “little.” :o ---
**Author:** ![Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a183cd/32.png) [@Barkis\_is\_Willin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Barkis_is_Willin)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/39 "2011-03-08T21:51:55Z")
The only ones I’d not heard of are: Hope Dworaczyk John Rich NeNe Leakes ---
**Author:** ![Justin\_Bailey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/justin_bailey/32/8792_2.png) [@Justin\_Bailey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Justin_Bailey)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084/40 "2011-03-08T21:53:04Z")
> [@Rebo](#): > > Who is the woman in there with Trump? She seemed like a secretary/admin type. That was his daughter, Ivanka Trump. She’s more or less a co-host. As for knowing who these people are, I’ve heard of everybody except for Hope Dworaczyk and NeNe Leakes. But the men seem a lot more famous than the women as I really have no idea why Lisa Rinna is famous and Latoya Jackson is not a “celebrity” in any way, shape or form. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-apprentice-2011/573084.md?page=3)