# Celebrity Blockout List '24 and the Met Gala controversy

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 12, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454 "2024-05-12T17:51:19Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/1 "2024-05-12T17:51:19Z")

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> **[The Met Gala has fueled backlash against stars who are silent about the Gaza...](https://www.npr.org/2024/05/11/1250506915/met-gala-block-israel)**
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> A fast-growing social media campaign to block stars for not speaking out escalated this week after the star-studded New York event.

What do you think? Will this be effective in hurting these people’s bottom line? What do you think of the message, (Both the ‘class debate’ and Celebrities’ supposed responsibility to speak out on Gaza)?

Things really blew up after a creator named haleyybaylee, dressed as Mariant Antoinette, made a TikTok post at the Gala saying, “Let them eat cake”.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/2 "2024-05-12T18:15:22Z")

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To express my thoughts, whether this particular act has any effect, or not, I don’t know. Whatever may happen, I think the entertainment industry is in serious trouble. Some of that’s due to the industry being ‘out of touch’, some of it’s Streaming, and bad creative and business decisions.

The excessive wealth flaunting of the Met Gala and other like venues is, in my opinion, pretty disgusting. I understand why people are pissed.

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**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/3 "2024-05-12T18:16:05Z")

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I would imagine the ones that don’t say anything one way or the other will be fine. IMO, shaming celebrities for not speaking about current events is just as bad as shaming them for doing it (ie [celeb] should keep her mouth shut, she’s a singer not a politician).

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**Author:** ![Chronos](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chronos/32/134_2.png) [@Chronos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chronos)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/4 "2024-05-12T18:16:07Z")

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It’s a sad sign for our society when actors and other performers are the people we expect to be conducting foreign policy.

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/5 "2024-05-12T18:19:53Z")

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I agree it’s sad.

A lot of the Entertainment Industry was steadfast in supporting Israel, though.

I don’t know.

I’m more about the Wealth disparity argument, but I still think blocking these people and businesses is kind of silly.

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**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 7:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/6 "2024-05-12T19:23:12Z")

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> [@Joey\_P](#):
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> IMO, shaming celebrities for not speaking about current events is just as bad as shaming them for doing it

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/i8N6btpU4bM/hqdefault.jpg "Kramer won't wear an AIDS ribbon") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8N6btpU4bM)

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**Author:** ![MyFootsZZZ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/myfootszzz/32/12580_2.png) [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 9:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/7 "2024-05-12T21:12:46Z")

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Somewhat related:

> **[Duke students walk out of Jerry Seinfeld commencement amid wave of graduation...](https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/duke-students-walkout-jerry-seinfeld-commencement-wave-graduation-anti-rcna151876)**
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> Videos on social media showed a group of students with Palestinian flags walking down an aisle on the stadium field.

Whatever you believe, did they not totally expect this?

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 10:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/8 "2024-05-12T22:30:40Z")

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Shouldn’t they be talking about global warming?

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/9 "2024-05-12T23:00:36Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> Whatever you believe, did they not totally expect this?

Sorry, can you clarify this statement?

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/10 "2024-05-12T23:40:55Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Sorry, can you clarify this statement?

I just wonder if they did not anticipate it occurring. (The walkout)

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/11 "2024-05-12T23:46:27Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> I just wonder if they did not anticipate it occurring.

You mean, the school should have anticipated that if they had a Jew speak, people would walk out?

How should his daughter, who graduated from there, or his son, who currently attends there, feel about that?

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**Author:** ![The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/the_other_waldo_pepper/32/12370_2.png) [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Other_Waldo_Pepper)\
**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 11:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/12 "2024-05-12T23:52:44Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> How should his daughter, who graduated from there, or his son, who currently attends there, feel about that?

Unsurprised?

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2024, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/13 "2024-05-12T23:57:05Z")

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Not ‘a Jew’.

That’s kind of… weird to say, in my opinion. Seinfeld’s (at least) being accused of promoting Isreal right now in their efforts to… (I can’t claim to know what Isreal’s goal is at this point). I believe he’s the one who stuck his neck out on the issue, but if you have any evidence to the contrary, I’m interested in hearing it.

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**Author:** ![Babale](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/babale/32/15666_2.png) [@Babale](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Babale)\
**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/14 "2024-05-13T00:10:38Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> Not ‘a Jew’.
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> That’s kind of… weird to say, in my opinion. Seinfeld’s (at least) being accused of promoting Isreal.

Oh, sorry; an _uppity_ Jew.

Seinfeld has said that as a Jewish person he feels a connection to Israel; and he put on a comedy show in Israel to help deal with the trauma of Oct 7. That’s pretty much it; he hasn’t been some outspoken voice making political statements about the conflict.

But of course this gets painted as Seinfeld “promoting Israel”. Another poster put it much better than I could ever hope to:

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> Liberal antisemitism usually runs in the direction of graciously affording Jewish liberals the opportunity to denounce Israel. It’s a loyalty test. If they pass it, then all is good, so long as they’re willing not be too Jewish in the presence of the real liberals. You also have to be willing to deny your status as a minority, since Jews - who are basically just white people as far as they’re concerned - are oppressors and not the oppressed. And you always, always have to be willing to denounce Israel on command.

> [@The\_Other\_Waldo\_Pepper](#):
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> Unsurprised?

I was thinking more “Unsafe”.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/15 "2024-05-13T00:11:19Z")

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I should specify the government of Isreal. I know their said goal is to get Hamas, but blowing up Earth would do it, doesn’t mean we should.

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> I should specify the government of Isreal. I know their said goal is to get Hamas, but blowing up Earth would do it, doesn’t mean we should

What statements has Jerry Seinfeld made about the “government of Israel”?

Or is his “refusal to denounce Israel” a failure of the loyalty test the poster I quoted above was talking about?

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> [@Babale](#):
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> “government of Israel”?

As of now I’m trying to find the source of which I read something regarding what he had supposedly said about it. At the moment I’m not sure about the source or my perception of what it said.

That said, did his wife, Jessica, help pay for a pro-Israel counterprotest on UCLA’s campus? I mean… that alone could promote these students to protest. I’m not claiming a side right now, just saying I would have expected it.

Maybe I could have used different terminology, but there was no charge against any specific group of people, but perhaps the Israeli gov.

If he loves Isreal, he must be appalled right now.

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> I’m not claiming a side right now, just saying I would have expected it.

Sure, it’s not unexpected that people would stage a walkout on a prominent Jew who hasn’t sufficiently denounced Israel to pass some loyalty test.

I am glad that Duke isn’t so afraid of such a possibility that they would uninvite Seinfeld.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 1:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/19 "2024-05-13T01:28:59Z")

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> [@Babale](#):
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> Sure, it’s not unexpected that people would stage a walkout on a prominent Jew who hasn’t sufficiently denounced Israel to pass some loyalty test.

So you believe the students that walked out are antisemitic?

Just asking.

I mean, I dislike Biden for how he’s handled this, he’s not jewish. My personal hero, Bernie Sanders, has been more vocal, and he is Jewish. Not that any of that should matter, ‘right and wrong’ isn’t contingent on a persons religion or ethnicity.

Like I said, tho… I’m not saying these students were warranted in walking out. I’m just simply saying I would have expected it due to his wife’s actions, alone.

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**Post date:** [May 13, 2024, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-blockout-list-24-and-the-met-gala-controversy/1001454/20 "2024-05-13T04:02:59Z")

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> [@MyFootsZZZ](#):
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> So you believe the students that walked out are antisemitic?
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> Just asking.

Just answering (although I’m not Babale). In general, yes. I believe most of them want Israel eliminated as a Jewish state and the Jews forced into diaspora (again). That’s antisemitism.

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