I’ll buy that. Let’s put it this way, I was the ONLY one in line. Unlike the event I was at, I don’t THINK him signing my one extra item was going to lead to a riot.
And I was pointing out your idiotic notion that most people have Saturdays off.
Do you have facts to counter my idiotic notion. If you do thats fine, because really whether or not thats the case has absolutely nothing to do with the OP, by the way.
Or are you just angry because you have a shitty job that requires you to work Saturdays, so you think everyone else does?
- . . . Guinisatasia desperately Googling right now . . . . .*:p:p:p
From a 2004 article:
Yes, most of the US workforce has Saturdays off. However, 1 in 5 workers is still a pretty hefty chunk of the labor force. So it doesn’t really seem “weak” to suggest that “the fan might very well have been at work” on a Saturday.
AFAICT, there’s not that much to choose between the cluelessness of somebody who thinks that most Americans work on Saturdays and the cluelessness of somebody who thinks it’s “nonsense” to point out that a random person might very well have work obligations on Saturdays.
Having to work on Saturdays is really not such a rare situation that it can reasonably be dismissed as a ridiculously improbable explanation for why somebody might have been late to an event that they wanted to attend.
I’ll go out on a limb and suggest that it’s nonsense to act like it was wrong to schedule an event when gasp people might be working. Yeah, maybe some people legitimately couldn’t make it because they were working. Who cares? It’s a friggin’ book signing. It is 100% accurate to say that if you didn’t arrange to get off work or get out of whatever you had to do during that time, it wasn’t that important to you.
Who around here has been acting like it was wrong to schedule an event when people might be working? Nobody, AFAICT; that was a straw man made up by Shakespearo.
All Lynn Bodoni and Scarlett67 did was to point out, perfectly reasonably, that somebody might well be a big fan of a particular author and yet not be able to get to the author’s Saturday evening book signing promptly because they had to work. Indeed, lots of people (in fact, around 20 percent of all US workers) do have to work on Saturdays.
All the OP needed to do in response was to point out that since around 80% of American workers don’t work on Saturdays, this particular latecomer might indeed have been late because of work obligations, but the odds were against it.
Instead, the OP jerked his knee so hard he got his foot caught in his mouth, sputtering about how this perfectly reasonable point was “weak” and “nonsense” and “the stupidest argument [he’d] ever heard”. He couldn’t even manage to rebut Guin’s exaggerated claims with any actual data until I came along and helped him out.
Lynn did:
I don’t get how I’m some sort of straw man. I never even brought the work schedule topic up, someone else did. I don’t even think Scarlett67’s post is even germain to the argument, and by your own admission, is not even close to factually based. So why rip me?
As a matter of fact, unless the poster above apologizes, in light of the facts YOU brought up, I ACCUSE Scarlett67 of hijacking this thread.
Now . . . . Lynn not only, with no information, made the implication, but then even based on her lack of facts, accuse my company of fucking up. I know reading comprehension skills are limited around here by some, but let me post what she said again, and for the slower posters, I will point out her flawed points in bold and italic (for some of you, thats BIG BLACK LETTERS, LEANING TO THE RIGHT):
***Lynn has no idea why the customer was late. I never revealed that in my post. Why? I have no idea either. Her entire point, is based on suspicion. Maybe she was shopping, napping, or washing her hair, who knows, but whatever she was doing was much more important than getting to the book signing in time to meet her hero. ***
***1. I did not organize the event. So in reality I don’t care about your opinion of the event. Almost everyone (and again over 99%) that came out for it was very very happy.
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Lynn was not there, that I am aware of. So how can she judge we “dropped the ball”.
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The celebrity DID stick around after the last customers left. The celebrity took pix with us, and when it was clear the event was over, split. They weren’t there a full two hours. However, out of hundreds of people, only 2 or so walked away without what they wanted, after they showed up late. Less than 1%. How is that “dropping the ball”???***
I don’t need your help, but thanks anyway for proving a point that anyone who has half a brain knew anyway, obviously proven by Guinistasias disappearance when I challenged her point that I was “idiotic”… :rolleyes:
I think it’s VERY stupid to:
1-Try to argue that most Americans DO work on Saturdays, when I dont know . . . for some reason when I try to get to work on M-F, it takes 2 hours of traffic to get to work, then PRESTO, when I DO have to drive the same way Saturday, it takes 45 minutes. Hmmmmmmmm.
2-That somehow, Lynn somehow physically knew that one of the THREE whole people who showed up late and didnt get her stupid autograph was because they worked that day.
3- That, assumuing Lynn and Guninstasia were right, the odds of which were more improbable than a disco ball the size of Jupiter hitting the planet Earth and knocking it like a cue ball into the Sun, that it really didnt matter because no matter when you hold a book signing, there is a chance someone is not going to be able to make it because of work or personal obligations.
I think this argument is over.
That’s assuming there was actually one in the first place.
Quality pitting.
I was not trying to claim any such thing. I was merely pointing out, as several other people have done, that “Most Americans have Saturday off” is a nonsensical argument against “Maybe he had to work or had other obligations.” And if you had read my entire post, you would have seen that I agreed that the guy was probably acting like a jerk.
In the meantime, people have given statistics supporting the idea that it’s not improbable that he had to work. You have given zero support for your idiotic claim that because most people don’t work on Saturdays, it’s impossible that this guy does. “That’s nonsense” and “You so stupid” are not factual support.
Pitting of Celebrity book signing at a trade shoe = asshole magnet
Seriously, who gives a fuck how many people work on a saturday, catch a fucking grip.
It really is a silly discussion. I know I’m bored with it.
Oh, I see the problem. You’re imagining things. He did not make that claim.
No shit. What thread is this person reading?
If I may be allowed a brief hijack, I’d just like to say that I wish all loco tacos were as upfront as you.
I didn’t say you shouldn’t schedule a book signing on a weekend – just that it’s false to say that the majority of people have Saturdays off.
Doesn’t matter. You’re wrong either way.
For nearly ten years, I worked in a rather small branch of a chain of women’s clothing shops. All the shops were open Monday through Saturday from 10 AM to 6 PM, and on Sundays from noon to 5 PM. Thus, there was only the day shift.
Most of us got scheduled to work every single Saturday, because that was our biggest business day. We’d usually have three or four women employed in an individual store, and by Og, all of them were going to work on Saturday, unless they had a very good excuse. And they were going to work all day, too. No leaving early. In addition, Saturday was the end of the business week, so even though we locked the doors at 6 PM, we still had another 30 to 60 minutes of work ahead of us.
A good excuse was because someone had a sick kid at home. Leaving to go to a book signing, no matter how big a fan one might be, would result in getting fired. I don’t know about you, but if it comes down to getting my book signed or keeping my job, I’m probably going to opt for keeping my job, even if I love the author and hate my job.
And again I’ll say that I’ve never, ever heard of a book signing lasting less than 90 minutes. Yeah, your company screwed up by having such a short signing, especially if you (company you) were trying to promote your booth. You say that only two other people complained? That is not proof that people didn’t look at your booth, see the lack of the celebrity signer, and then not even bother to go over and talk to anyone in the booth.
Saturday afternoon/evening IS probably about the best time to schedule a signing that’s convenient to the most fans. The majority of people WILL be off work, but they might have other things to do (like maybe their kids are in a school function, it’s a poor parent who would miss a school function). It will exclude a significant portion of fans, though. And the company and its representative should acknowledge this, instead of insisting that attending a signing MUST be top priority for any fan. Attending a signing falls under the Luxury/Entertainment category, which is (or should be) the last priority, not the first, when someone makes a schedule. Keeping a job, or parental duties, should be first priority.
Yeah, I worked at a pizza place once where the boss was a real inflexible asshole about the schedule. I wonder how many event planners worried about whether or not I would be able to attend. All they can do is try to pick a decent time and not worry about whether someone’s special unfortunate circumstance prevents them from being able to make it. Christ.