# Celebrity Death Pool 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2013, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193 "2013-12-01T06:00:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Andrew\_21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bcef8e/32.png) [@Andrew\_21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andrew_21)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 1:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/21 "2013-12-02T01:15:36Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> You know, that category is one I’ve copied from previous arbiters of this game. It’s sort of like “celebrity” in that it’s hard to define
> 
> So my ruling is that if the person being held, or we Dopers at large, agree that it’s a political prisoner, then it is.
> 
> If there’s any question about a particular person we can discuss it by PM.

That rule was suggested in 2004, then added in 2005:

> [@The Celebrity Death Pool 2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/669):
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> I do have one other thing. We might need a little rule addition for next year. I think we should prohibit the picking of people who were abducted in Iraq this year. This is tantamount to being on death row. Someone could conceivably fill their list with people like the Allawis and Margaret Hassan and then watch the points pile up as each one is murdered.

> [@The Celebrity Death Pool 2004](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2004/216359/670):
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> **Captain Lance** , I am willing to go along with your suggestion re executed prisoners – we’re macabre but not _that_ macabre – but how do we define “celebrity” prisoners? Just, “anyone who makes the news as a prisoner who is then executed” (would be ineligible)? Anyone have any feedback here?

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**Author:** ![Lok](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e8c25b/32.png) [@Lok](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lok)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 2:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/22 "2013-12-02T02:45:56Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Still trying to decide to go with a theme or for points.

Works out pretty much the same for me whichever way I go, so I figure I might as well have fun doing a theme. Speaking of which, need to make a change already.

Moving Charley Pride back down to an alternate and adding in Randy Travis.

Don Williams  
Jim Ed Brown  
“Little” Jimmy Dickens  
Kenny Chesney  
Tanya Tucker  
Harold Reid  
Phil Balsley  
Jimmy Fortune  
Don Reid  
LeAnn Rimes  
Charley Daniels  
Juice Newton  
Randy Travis

Alts  
Kenny Rogers  
Charley Pride

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 3:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/23 "2013-12-02T03:09:11Z")

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Cool. Can’t Wait!

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**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/24 "2013-12-02T14:42:22Z")

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My list is “men who have played the Phantom of the Opera on Broadway”:

Michael Crawford  
Timothy Nolen  
Mark Jacoby  
Davis Gaines  
Thomas James O’Leary  
Hugh Panaro  
Howard McGillin  
Gary Mauer  
Brad Little  
John Cudia  
Peter Jöback  
Chris Groenendaal  
Marcus Lovett

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 3:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/25 "2013-12-02T15:11:41Z")

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Earliest I’ve ever done this, but I want to be on the first page. Makes it easier to find my list.

Valerie Harper  
Amanda Bynes  
Kirk Douglas  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Kirk Kerkorian  
Billy Graham  
Don Pardo  
Monty Hall  
John McVie  
Linda Rondstadt  
Stuart Scott  
Frankie Muniz  
Mark Hoppus

Alternatives:  
Fidel Castro  
Al Jaffee  
Keanu Reeves

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/26 "2013-12-02T15:16:11Z")

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OK - first the easy ones  
1 Abe Vigoda  
2 Fidel Castro  
3 Dick “Borrowed Time” Cheney  
4 George H Bush  
5 Barb Bush  
6 Jimmy Carter  
7 Yoko “Everyone Wants Her Dead” Ono  
8 Sharon Osbourne  
9 Charley Manson  
10 Richard Simmons  
11 Iggy Pop

Less obvious  
12 Andy Fraser (wrote the song “All Right Now”)  
13 Willie G Davidson (former CEO of Harley)

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**Author:** ![kopek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kopek/32/337_2.png) [@kopek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kopek)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/27 "2013-12-02T15:23:34Z")

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Ooops – plain list

Abe Vigoda  
Fidel Castro  
Dick Cheney  
George H Bush  
Barn Bush  
Jimmy Carter  
Yoko Ono  
Sharon Osbourne  
Charley Manson  
Richard Simmons  
Iggy Pop  
Andy Fraser  
Willie G Davidson

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/28 "2013-12-02T15:48:46Z")

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First time for me.

Louie Anderson  
Mikhail Baryshnikov  
Michael Douglas  
Aretha Franklin  
Gallagher  
Kathie Lee Gifford  
Ed Harris  
Yakov Smirnoff  
Sally Struthers  
Burt Ward  
George Wendt  
Chuck Woolery  
Tom Wopat

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/29 "2013-12-02T15:51:05Z")

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> [@Annie-Xmas](#):
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> My list is “men who have played the Phantom of the Opera on Broadway”:
> 
> Michael Crawford  
> Timothy Nolen  
> Mark Jacoby  
> Davis Gaines  
> Thomas James O’Leary  
> Hugh Panaro  
> Howard McGillin  
> Gary Mauer  
> Brad Little  
> John Cudia  
> Peter Jöback  
> Chris Groenendaal  
> Marcus Lovett

You hoping for a really big chandelier?

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**Author:** ![Tread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Tread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tread)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/30 "2013-12-02T16:53:07Z")

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First Time Player… so here I go  
Casey Kasem  
June Shannon  
Sid Ceasar  
Barbra Bush  
Stevn Seagal  
Chris Rock  
Jerry Mathers  
Jodie Sweetin  
Mick Jagger  
Terry Bradshaw  
Kendall Jenner  
Betty Lynn

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/31 "2013-12-02T17:02:19Z")

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> [@Tread](#):
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> First Time Player… so here I go  
> Casey Kasem  
> June Shannon  
> Sid Ceasar  
> Barbra Bush  
> Stevn Seagal  
> Chris Rock  
> Jerry Mathers  
> Jodie Sweetin  
> Mick Jagger  
> Terry Bradshaw  
> Kendall Jenner  
> Betty Lynn

Been doing this long enough that my brain automatically knows when there aren’t enough names. You are 1 short.

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**Author:** ![Fiveroptic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiveroptic/32/8257_2.png) [@Fiveroptic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiveroptic)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 5:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/32 "2013-12-02T17:06:12Z")

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Tim Conway  
O. J. Simpson  
Mary Tyler Moore  
Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh  
Gordie Howe  
Jerry Stiller  
Muhammad Ali  
Dan Rather  
Katie Couric  
Barbara Cook  
Chevy Chase  
William Milliken  
Stephen Sondheim  
Maya Angelou  
Rachel Ray  
Chaz Bono

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/33 "2013-12-02T17:16:28Z")

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First timer here…

Pat Summit  
Bill Cosby  
Nelson Mandela  
Nancy Reagan  
Pat Buchanan  
Rush Limbaugh  
Angela Lansbury  
Warren Buffett  
Larry McMurtry  
Francis Ford Coppola  
Justin Bieber  
Danny Glover  
Chris Christie

Alternates

Lindsey Lohan  
Fidel Castro  
Michelle Obama

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**Author:** ![Tread](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@Tread](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tread)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 6:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/34 "2013-12-02T18:13:33Z")

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> [@Loach](#):
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> Been doing this long enough that my brain automatically knows when there aren’t enough names. You are 1 short.

Thanks.

First Time Player… so here I go  
Casey Kasem  
June Shannon  
Sid Ceasar  
Barbra Bush  
Stevn Seagal  
Chris Rock  
Jerry Mathers  
Jodie Sweetin  
Mick Jagger  
Terry Bradshaw  
Kendall Jenner  
Betty Lynn  
Bow Wow

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/35 "2013-12-02T18:16:25Z")

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Oh, right. Alternates.

Louie Anderson  
Mikhail Baryshnikov  
Michael Douglas  
Aretha Franklin  
Gallagher  
Kathie Lee Gifford  
Ed Harris  
Yakov Smirnoff  
Sally Struthers  
Burt Ward  
George Wendt  
Chuck Woolery  
Tom Wopat

Alternates:  
Linda Ronstadt  
Adam West  
Lindsay Lohan

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/36 "2013-12-02T19:13:37Z")

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1.Dick Cheney  
2.Harper Lee  
3.Fidel Castro  
4.Ruth Bader Ginsberg  
5.Chuck Bednarik  
6.Jacques Chirac  
7.John Paul Stevens  
8.Abe Vigoda  
9.Hal Holbrook  
10.Bobby Doerr  
11.Milt Schmidt  
12.Barabara Bush  
13.George HW Bush

Alternate(s):  
Walter Mondale  
Nancy Reagan

Note: 12 refers to 13’s wife.

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**Author:** ![VunderBob](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/839c29/32.png) [@VunderBob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VunderBob)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/37 "2013-12-02T19:14:55Z")

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> [@etv78](#):
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> 1.Dick Cheney  
> 2.Harper Lee  
> 3.Fidel Castro  
> 4.Ruth Bader Ginsberg  
> 5.Chuck Bednarik  
> 6.Jacques Chirac  
> 7.John Paul Stevens  
> 8.Abe Vigoda  
> 9.Hal Holbrook  
> 10.Bobby Doerr  
> 11.Milt Schmidt  
> 12.Barabara Bush  
> 13. George HW Bush
> 
> Alternate: Walter Mondale
> 
> Note: 12 refers to 13’s wife.

Plain list: No numbers or commentary.

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**Author:** ![cazwhatever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dec6dc/32.png) [@cazwhatever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cazwhatever)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/38 "2013-12-02T19:27:20Z")

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Macauley culkin  
Meat loaf  
Jonathan Rhys Meyers  
Randy travis  
Ian Brady  
Pete Doherty  
Lyndsay Lohan  
Daisy Berkowitz  
Ian Watkins  
Nick Stahl  
Edward Furlong  
Monica Keena  
Alternates  
Shifty Shellshock  
Derek Whibley  
Bobbi Kristina Brown

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**Author:** ![etv78](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/d78d45/32.png) [@etv78](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/etv78)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/39 "2013-12-02T19:40:45Z")

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Sorry about the #s, the “commentary” was to indicate which Barabara Bush I refer to. Anyway, clean list (with another alternate BTW)

Dick Cheney  
Harper Lee  
Fidel Castro  
Ruth Bader Ginsberg  
Chuck Bednarik  
Jacques Chirac  
John Paul Stevens  
Abe Vigoda  
Hal Holbrook  
Bobby Doerr  
Milt Schmidt  
Barabra Bush  
George HW Bush

Alternates  
Walter Mondale  
Nancy Reagan  
Olivia Dehavilland  
Doyle Brunson

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/40 "2013-12-02T21:02:30Z")

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Point of order: would it be bad form to play with a themed list and then post an unofficial list points list after the deadline to see how it stacks up with the rest of you psychos? No need for the Death Mistress to track. It just seems more officially unofficial if its posted rather than me keeping it in my head.

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