# Celebrity Death Pool 2014 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** death-pool\ **Created:** [December 1, 2013, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193 "2013-12-01T06:00:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 93
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1841 "2014-11-15T03:10:21Z")
> [@Registered\_at\_Last](#): > > Some major points scored (but not by me, and I expect like me there will be some major revisions to 2015 lists :() > > [Diem Brown dead at 32](https://ca.celebrity.yahoo.com/news/diem-brown-dies-32-mtv-challenge-stars-final-202000612-us-weekly.html) I’m on the board! Finally! In November! Crap ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 4:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1842 "2014-11-15T04:00:29Z")
One other player besides **carnivorousplant** had Brown,\*\* Fear Itself\*\*. ---
**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1843 "2014-11-15T07:00:08Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I’m on the board! > Finally! > In November! > Crap You managed to _carpe_ Diem? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 12:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1844 "2014-11-15T12:06:50Z")
Yes! Back into the top ten! ---
**Author:** ![Andrew\_21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bcef8e/32.png) [@Andrew\_21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andrew_21)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1845 "2014-11-15T14:51:19Z")
**Baker** , I have a question about this rule: > [@Baker](#): > > The Rules: > > 1. Valid picks are not: > f. political prisoners As mentioned here, [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16893014&postcount=21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16893014&postcount=21) the intent was to prevent the picking of hostages. Is that how you would interpret this rule? ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 3:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1846 "2014-11-15T15:16:17Z")
> [@Andrew\_21](#): > > **Baker** , I have a question about this rule: > > As mentioned here, > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16893014&postcount=21](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=16893014&postcount=21) > > the intent was to prevent the picking of hostages. Is that how you would interpret this rule? Whoa, I’d kind of forgotten about this issue. As I’ve said before regarding picking only legal adults, we’re sick, but not that sick. Googling celebrity/cancer is sick, but searching for the names of kidnapees like those who have been beheaded is beyond sick. So, I’m going to say that those will not be counted. I will also try to keep tabs on that kind of news, and if anyone have help to add in that regard, I’d sure appreciate it. If you have more questions, please ask. I may have to completely rewrite that rule. ---
**Author:** ![Andrew\_21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bcef8e/32.png) [@Andrew\_21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andrew_21)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1847 "2014-11-15T15:25:38Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > If you have more questions, please ask. I may have to completely rewrite that rule. Maybe “political prisoners” can be replaced with “hostages”. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 4:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1848 "2014-11-15T16:56:35Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > Yes! Back into the top ten! Yes! Back too above zero! :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 7:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1849 "2014-11-15T19:27:04Z")
> [@Andrew\_21](#): > > Maybe “political prisoners” can be replaced with “hostages”. That’s a good idea, I’ll go with that if we all seem to agree. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 7:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1850 "2014-11-15T19:40:56Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > That’s a good idea, I’ll go with that if we all seem to agree. Sounds good to me. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 9:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1851 "2014-11-15T21:28:39Z")
TMZ is reporting that Greg A, Larson has died at age 77 from esophageal cancer. He created some notable TV Shows like Magnum P.I., Quincy and Knight Rider. He also was a part of the Six Million Dollar Man, BJ and the Bear, Battlestar Galactica, The Fall Guy and Buck Rogers in the 25th Century. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1852 "2014-11-15T21:38:31Z")
> [@notfrommensa](#): > > TMZ is reporting that Greg A, Larson has died at age 77 from esophageal cancer. What a coincidence, [Glen A. Larson](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/glen-a-larson-dead-battlestar-748879) has died also. ---
**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1853 "2014-11-15T21:47:35Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > What a coincidence, [Glen A. Larson](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/glen-a-larson-dead-battlestar-748879) has died also. That is what I get for not copying and pasting. :smack: Thanks. ---
**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1854 "2014-11-15T22:25:26Z")
> [@Andrew\_21](#): > > Maybe “political prisoners” can be replaced with “hostages”. > [@Baker](#): > > That’s a good idea, I’ll go with that if we all seem to agree. How do you distinguish hostages of war or terrorist actions from, say, a celebrity held for ransom who dies of fright in the process? ---
**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1855 "2014-11-15T23:07:34Z")
> [@anyrose](#): > > How do you distinguish hostages of war or terrorist actions from, say, a celebrity held for ransom who dies of fright in the process? Well, I’d address that if and when it comes. The possibility is pretty remote, while hostages held under threat of beheading is not. ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1856 "2014-11-15T23:17:02Z")
Would it help to exclude hostages whose captivity began prior to entries closing? Say someone chooses a war correspondent who isn’t a captive at the time entries are open, and she gets grabbed by terrorists in April, beheaded in November… Is that the sort of case you want to avoid giving points to, or is it specifically that you don’t want people researching hostages? Restricting the selection of hostages whose captivity began prior to 11:59pm 31 December would stop a chance celebrity snatch and murder mid year from being disqualified. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1857 "2014-11-15T23:35:17Z")
> [@Eliahna](#): > > Restricting the selection of hostages whose captivity began prior to 11:59pm 31 December would stop a chance celebrity snatch and murder mid year from being disqualified. We don’t want to encourage bad behavior… ---
**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2014, 11:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1858 "2014-11-15T23:50:12Z")
> [@Fear\_Itself](#): > > We don’t want to encourage bad behavior… Rule 8! Rule 8! ---
**Author:** ![Andrew\_21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bcef8e/32.png) [@Andrew\_21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andrew_21)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2014, 11:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1859 "2014-11-17T11:45:44Z")
> [@anyrose](#): > > How do you distinguish hostages of war or terrorist actions from, say, a celebrity held for ransom who dies of fright in the process? There’s no need to differentiate; any captive could be considered an invalid pick. > [@Eliahna](#): > > Would it help to exclude hostages whose captivity began prior to entries closing? Say someone chooses a war correspondent who isn’t a captive at the time entries are open, and she gets grabbed by terrorists in April, beheaded in November… Is that the sort of case you want to avoid giving points to, or is it specifically that you don’t want people researching hostages? Restricting the selection of hostages whose captivity began prior to 11:59pm 31 December would stop a chance celebrity snatch and murder mid year from being disqualified. Baker is in charge; she makes the rules. My suggestion would be to exclude anyone who is being held captive as of midnight December 31. Anyone taken captive after that would be a valid pick. What do you think, **Baker**? ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2014, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1860 "2014-11-17T13:31:29Z")
How can we already be talking about next year’s rules? None of my people from this year have died yet! 😃 > [@Andrew\_21](#): > > There’s no need to differentiate; any captive could be considered an invalid pick. > > Baker is in charge; she makes the rules. > > My suggestion would be to exclude anyone who is being held captive as of midnight December 31. Anyone taken captive after that would be a valid pick. > > What do you think, **Baker**? I agree with this. If they’re in captivity for whatever reason as this year ends, they shouldn’t be fair game. Doesn’t matter if they’re in the slammer for normal crimes, or held as a political prisoner by a repressive regime, held for ransom by a criminal, held captive/hostage by a non-state group, or whatever. IMHO, to be a fair pick, as 2014 ends, they’ve got to have their freedom to the extent that their health allows. (So if they’re on their deathbed in a nursing home, hooked up to machines, the ‘to the extent that their health allows’ part kicks in. They’d be fair game.) If their status changes once 2015 begins, they shouldn’t go from a legit pick to out of bounds. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193.md?page=92) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193.md?page=94)