# Celebrity Death Pool 2014

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2013, 6:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193 "2013-12-01T06:00:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2014, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1861 "2014-11-17T19:31:26Z")

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Well, on another board, and with admittedly other rules, I got points this year for a person in prison who died a death of natural causes. She was in her seventies, a lifer, and a real bitch. Google Sante Kimes if you are interested.

In the past we allowed as valid picks people in prison, as long as they died, as did the woman above, by some way other than legal execution. For example, back when folks had Timothy McVeigh, or Saddam Hussein, they didn’t get the points for them because their death was mandated by what I suppose I must call “legitimate” governing bodies. Now, if they’d had heart attacks, or a fellow prisoner had slipped a shiv into them, the players would have got the points.

Geez, in trying to decide this I feel like Solomon handing down the decision on whether or not to cut a baby in half.

So, if a person is being held by ISIS, AlQeada, or some terrorist group, as of December 31st, they will not be allowed as choices, no matter how they die.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2014, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1862 "2014-11-17T20:36:21Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> She was in her seventies, a lifer, and a real bitch. Google Sante Kimes if you are interested.

I think I had her in third grade.

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**Author:** ![Mollie\_Magill](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mollie_magill/32/20882_2.png) [@Mollie\_Magill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mollie_Magill)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2014, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1863 "2014-11-17T21:18:22Z")

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To be wide like Solomon, you must think like Solomon. Quick! someone fetch **Baker** a baby and a chainsaw!

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2014, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1864 "2014-11-17T21:32:46Z")

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> [@Mollie\_Magill](#):
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> To be wide like Solomon, you must think like Solomon. Quick! someone fetch **Baker** a baby and a chainsaw!

I believe that you misunderstand the story.  
🙂

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**Author:** ![Andrew\_21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bcef8e/32.png) [@Andrew\_21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andrew_21)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1865 "2014-11-18T00:55:24Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> If they’re in captivity for whatever reason as this year ends, they shouldn’t be fair game. Doesn’t matter if they’re in the slammer for normal crimes, or held as a political prisoner by a repressive regime, held for ransom by a criminal, held captive/hostage by a non-state group, or whatever.

I disagree with this. Being held captive by ISIS is quite different from being an inmate in state prison. I think hostages should be off limits, but prison inmates should be fair game.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 1:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1866 "2014-11-18T01:19:28Z")

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isn’t there a separate thread for discussing Death Pool rules? I think there used to be, at least.

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**Author:** ![Andrew\_21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bcef8e/32.png) [@Andrew\_21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andrew_21)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 1:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1867 "2014-11-18T01:25:32Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> isn’t there a separate thread for discussing Death Pool rules? I think there used to be, at least.

Are you thinking of [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=499961) thread?

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 1:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1868 "2014-11-18T01:27:23Z")

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yeah. I guess it’s too old to resurrect.

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**Author:** ![notfrommensa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f14d63/32.png) [@notfrommensa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/notfrommensa)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1869 "2014-11-18T01:32:06Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> yeah. I guess it’s too old to resurrect.

I would think Zombie resurrection would be encouraged in the Death Pool. :eek:

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1870 "2014-11-18T01:35:55Z")

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Would that count as double points? “Well, he was 68 when he died, and still 68 when his corpse was given the ol’ double-tap, so that’s 64 points for me!” 😃

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**Author:** ![Hal\_Briston](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a9a28c/32.png) [@Hal\_Briston](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hal_Briston)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 5:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1871 "2014-11-18T05:40:49Z")

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It looks like [Arthur Rankin Jr.](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/animation-legend-arthur-rankin-jr-676275) has…

(•\_•)

( •\_•)\>⌐■-■

(⌐■\_■)

…stopped motion.

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1872 "2014-11-18T11:09:25Z")

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Arthur Rankin, jr…

_Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer_ debuted in 1964, so, almost exactly fifty years ago.

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**Author:** ![Catamount](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/catamount/32/2840_2.png) [@Catamount](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Catamount)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1873 "2014-11-18T11:25:18Z")

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> [@Hal\_Briston](#):
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> It looks like [Arthur Rankin Jr.](http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/animation-legend-arthur-rankin-jr-676275) has…
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> (•\_•)
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> ( •\_•)\>⌐■-■
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> (⌐■\_■)
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> …stopped motion.

_applause_

Well played, sir. Well played.

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**Author:** ![dba\_Fred](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c37758/32.png) [@dba\_Fred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dba_Fred)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 12:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1874 "2014-11-18T12:37:35Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Geez, in trying to decide this I feel like Solomon handing down the decision on whether or not to cut a baby in half.\<clipped\>

Now if one or both of the half-babies survives to 18 (3. Valid picks are not: d. under age 18 at death, 'cause we’re macabre but not THAT macabre.), can one or both be listed & are half points available? Unless one or both are either hostages or death sentenced at the time.  
And what about conjoined twins? (need answer fast for my cloning/in vitro fertilization experiment)

> [@Baker](#):
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> Well, on another board, and with admittedly other rules, I got points this year for a person in prison who died a death of natural causes.\<clipped\>

When I read that **Baker** , that you were playing with others, I died a little (no points available) I thought we were the only ones, that we had something special ☹

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1875 "2014-11-18T13:31:04Z")

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> [@dba\_Fred](#):
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> When I read that **Baker** , that you were playing with others, I died a little (no points available) I thought we were the only ones, that we had something special ☹

Sucking up to Our Death Mistress will get you nowhere.

G-d knows, I have tried.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [November 18, 2014, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1876 "2014-11-18T16:30:52Z")

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> [@Andrew\_21](#):
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> I disagree with this. Being held captive by ISIS is quite different from being an inmate in state prison. I think hostages should be off limits, but prison inmates should be fair game.

The reason I put that in there is that there are a lot of countries in the world, and few of us really understand what’s going on there. In some of those places, it’s arguable whether someone’s a political prisoner or whether the crimes they’ve been imprisoned for would have gotten someone else in prison as well. A rule like this removes any need on the part of the DeathMistress to make the call.

I suppose one could make an exception for the U.S. of A. because we’d never do such a thing, and I’d be OK with that once I stopped laughing, because it probably wouldn’t make a difference in the game.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1877 "2014-11-20T00:26:59Z")

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Now we are brokenhearted. Motown singer Jimmy Ruffin dies at 78.

> **[Jimmy Ruffin, Motown Hitmaker, Dead at 78](https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/jimmy-ruffin-motown-hitmaker-dead-at-78-198542/)**
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> The singer had hits with “What Becomes of the Brokenhearted” and “Hold On (To My Love)”

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**Author:** ![JohnT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnt/32/15048_2.png) [@JohnT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JohnT)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1878 "2014-11-20T13:06:59Z")

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[Mike Nichols](http://www.businessinsider.com/mike-nichols-dead-age-83-2014-11), director of “The Graduate” has passed away at 17 points, er, 83 years of age.

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**Author:** ![Mahaloth](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mahaloth/32/1079_2.png) [@Mahaloth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mahaloth)\
**Post date:** [November 20, 2014, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1879 "2014-11-20T14:13:22Z")

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> [@JohnT](#):
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> [Mike Nichols](http://www.businessinsider.com/mike-nichols-dead-age-83-2014-11), director of “The Graduate” has passed away at 17 points, er, 83 years of age.

I had not realized he was over 80 already. He was a huge play director mainly, I think, and his movies were something he got into from it. Huge loss.

He was also apparently married to Diane Sawyer, which I did not realize.

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**Author:** ![Reeses\_Monkey](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/reeses_monkey/32/2885_2.png) [@Reeses\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Reeses_Monkey)\
**Post date:** [November 21, 2014, 3:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2014/675193/1880 "2014-11-21T03:11:26Z")

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Did anybody have the [Duchess of Alba](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/11243062/The-Duchess-of-Alba-obituary.html) for 12 points?

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