# Celebrity Death Pool 2015

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2014, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993 "2014-12-01T02:10:56Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 10:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2184 "2015-12-29T10:16:05Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> I can post ‘em, not pick em’.

Hmmm…might want to review posts 2102 through 2108 in this thread. 😛

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2185 "2015-12-29T15:43:56Z")

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> [@Eliahna](#):
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> Five days ago it would have been 31.

Dammit. If I lose by one point…

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**Author:** ![CAMJAY77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5fc32e/32.png) [@CAMJAY77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CAMJAY77)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2186 "2015-12-29T17:30:17Z")

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Country singer Craig Strickland missing [http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/29/entertainment/oklahoma-craig-strickland-missing/](http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/29/entertainment/oklahoma-craig-strickland-missing/)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 5:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2187 "2015-12-29T17:33:55Z")

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> [@CAMJAY77](#):
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> Country singer Craig Strickland missing [http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/29/entertainment/oklahoma-craig-strickland-missing/](http://www.cnn.com/2015/12/29/entertainment/oklahoma-craig-strickland-missing/)

As of this writing, he’s still hunting ducks.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2188 "2015-12-29T17:51:28Z")

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That would be interesting, if someone had him, and he was found dead on Jan 8th, and his time of death was uncertain. I suspect the points would not be awarded, because the game would be over. Is there overtime in the Death Pool?

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2189 "2015-12-29T18:23:00Z")

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> [@eschereal](#):
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> That would be interesting, if someone had him, and he was found dead on Jan 8th, and his time of death was uncertain. I suspect the points would not be awarded, because the game would be over. Is there overtime in the Death Pool?

Yes, but not that much overtime. From the OP of this thread:

> [@](#):
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> While all deaths garnering points must occur during the calendar year, I know that a death might go unreported for a day or so. So, I will not total points for 24 hours after 12/31/2015. If you find that one of your picks died, say, late on 12/31/2015, and you didn’t hear about it until Jan. 1, 2015(this is a not so subtle hint to check your lists)then post a cite by midnight, Jan. 1, 2016, and you will get your points. After that you will be out of luck.

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**Author:** ![CAMJAY77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5fc32e/32.png) [@CAMJAY77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CAMJAY77)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2190 "2015-12-29T21:26:11Z")

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What I was thinking (like above) is if his body is found January 1 or 2, they may not be able to tell when he died and just make his date of death that day, the day he was found.

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**Author:** ![moldmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/ee59a6/32.png) [@moldmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moldmonkey)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2191 "2015-12-29T21:44:20Z")

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John Bradbury, drummer for The Specials, has died at 62.

> **[Specials drummer John Bradbury dies](https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-35194738)**
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> The Specials drummer John Bradbury has died at the age of 62, the ska group announces.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2192 "2015-12-29T21:49:15Z")

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Kaw Lake, huh? Somehow I’ve never been there. Given as much time as I’ve spent during my life in Arkansas City (about 10 miles north) and environs, I don’t know how I’ve managed that.

> [@CAMJAY77](#):
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> What I was thinking (like above) is if his body is found January 1 or 2, they may not be able to tell when he died and just make his date of death that day, the day he was found.

IOW, if he is still missing two days from now, should we put him on our 2016 Death Pool lists? Would we get the points if his body turns up next week, or not?

Yep, as that handbasket rushes down into warmer territory, I’m going “Whee!!!” all the way home. 😉

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2193 "2015-12-29T21:57:17Z")

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Here’s how your Death Mistress feels about the issue. If a person dies and it’s not discovered for some time, then, even if time of death could be pinpointed, the scores will remain the same.

Players have that 24 hour period on January 1 to be sure whether or not their picks are dead, and to prove it. After that you are out of luck.

I don’t think I’ve ever specifically said, but time of death is local to wherever the death occurred.

Remember Guy Williams? Zorro? John Robinson? He apparently died alone and by the time it was discovered his body was “in a state of deomposition.” Now, he died, it seems, in the month of May, so points for him would have been counted. But if he’d died on New Year’s Eve, and hadn’t been found for a week, someone who’d chosen him would have been out of luck.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 10:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2194 "2015-12-29T22:17:18Z")

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Kurt Cobain had been dead for at least two days when they found his body. Layne Staley of Alice in Chains sat dead in repose for a fortnight before he was noticed. Both in April, though, so no error margin issues there.

There is a missing cross-country skier around here, who if dead will probably not be found till next year. But his only real claim to fame is that he is missing, so he would not be a valid pick (under the same guidelines as the “famous for being sick rule”).

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 10:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2195 "2015-12-29T22:38:29Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> Here’s how your Death Mistress feels about the issue. If a person dies and it’s not discovered for some time, then, even if time of death could be pinpointed, the scores will remain the same.
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> Players have that 24 hour period on January 1 to be sure whether or not their picks are dead, and to prove it. After that you are out of luck.
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> I don’t think I’ve ever specifically said, but time of death is local to wherever the death occurred.
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> Remember Guy Williams? Zorro? John Robinson? He apparently died alone and by the time it was discovered his body was “in a state of deomposition.” Now, he died, it seems, in the month of May, so points for him would have been counted. But if he’d died on New Year’s Eve, and hadn’t been found for a week, someone who’d chosen him would have been out of luck.

The question I have is in the opposite direction: how about if someone puts him on their 2016 list, and his body isn’t found until far enough into 2016 to determine when he died?

Obviously someone who had him on their 2015 list wouldn’t get any points, but how about 2016?

ETA: Personally, I’d be happy if you declared this guy to be ineligible for 2016 lists as a special, one-time deal.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2196 "2015-12-29T22:40:50Z")

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> **[Frank Malzone, Former Red Sox Star, Dies at Age 85](https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2603466-frank-malzone-former-red-sox-star-dies-at-age-85)**
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> Former MLB third baseman Frank Malzone, who made six All-Star teams with the Boston Red Sox , died Tuesday. He was 85. The Red Sox confirmed Malzone's death on their Twitter feed...

Former MLB third baseman Frank Malzone, who made six All-Star teams with the Boston Red Sox, died Tuesday. He was 85.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2197 "2015-12-29T22:54:20Z")

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The musician Guru Josh aka Paul Walden [has died](http://www.theguardian.com/music/2015/dec/29/guru-josh-rave-star-dies-aged-51) aged 51.

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**Author:** ![Hoopy\_Frood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hoopy_frood/32/8452_2.png) [@Hoopy\_Frood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hoopy_Frood)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2198 "2015-12-29T22:57:58Z")

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Abstract artist [Ellsworth Kelly](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/28/arts/ellsworth-kelly-artist-who-mixed-european-abstraction-into-everyday-life-dies-at-92.html) is going to be decorating the ground from now on.

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**Author:** ![CAMJAY77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5fc32e/32.png) [@CAMJAY77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CAMJAY77)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2199 "2015-12-30T14:56:42Z")

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When are you dead? [http://www.ajc.com/news/lifestyles/health/when-are-you-dead-it-may-depend-on-which-hospital-/nps3X/](http://www.ajc.com/news/lifestyles/health/when-are-you-dead-it-may-depend-on-which-hospital-/nps3X/)

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [December 30, 2015, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2200 "2015-12-30T15:35:39Z")

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[In 2015 Obituaries, a Portrait of Eras Grim and Innocent](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/30/us/obituaries-deaths-2015-portrait-of-eras-grim-and-innocent.html?_r=0)

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**Author:** ![Rico](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rico/32/3582_2.png) [@Rico](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rico)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 1:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2201 "2015-12-31T01:11:56Z")

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Not that this is going to affect in any way my chances of winning, but I did catch one this year that was overlooked.

[Boyd K. Packer dies at age 90](http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/president-boyd-k-packer-dies-at-age-90)

Just to keep everything above ground here. 😃

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 4:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2202 "2015-12-31T04:55:58Z")

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[Doug “Nutcracker” Atkins](http://www.nytimes.com/2015/12/31/sports/football/doug-atkins-feared-pass-rusher-dies-at-85.html) has pass rushed his final game, leaving 15 points on the board.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Pig](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c57346/32.png) [@Little\_Pig](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Pig)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2015, 6:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2015/705993/2203 "2015-12-31T06:56:42Z")

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Warp Alert! Warp Alert! Condition Red. Impending Self Destruct Sequence in 22:00:00 hours (CST). Goto [Celebrity Death Pool 2016](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=776787) to extend life functions. That is all.

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