# Celebrity Death Pool 2016

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2015, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098 "2015-12-01T05:57:57Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Schnitte](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/schnitte/32/9033_2.png) [@Schnitte](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Schnitte)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 2:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/162 "2015-12-28T14:33:08Z")

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Here’s my list for 2016, based mainly on my 2015 list with some “lessons learnt” and, of course, hits removed:

Clean version:

Nico Rosberg  
Jacques Chirac  
Charlie Sheen  
Yuri Cordeiro  
Walter Scheel  
Helmut Kohl  
Ross Perot  
Diego Maradona  
James Watson  
Joseph Ratzinger  
Hosni Mubarak  
Lloyd Blankfein  
Muhammad Ali

Annotated version:

Nico Rosberg, German Formula 1 racer  
Jacques Chirac, former President of France  
Charlie Sheen, American actor  
Yuri Cordeiro, Brazilian wingsuit pilot  
Walter Scheel, former Chancellor of Germany  
Helmut Kohl, ditto  
Ross Perot, American businessman and former presidential candidate  
Diego Maradona, former Argentinian football player  
James Watson, American biologost and Nobel Prize laureate  
Joseph Ratzinger, Pope Emeritus  
Hosni Mubarak, former President of Egypt  
Lloyd Blankfein, CEO of Goldman Sachs  
Muhammad Ali, former American boxer

And for alternates: Stephen Hawking, British phycisist; Silvio Berlusconi, former Prime Minister of Italy

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**Author:** ![zoog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/7ea924/32.png) [@zoog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/zoog)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 2:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/163 "2015-12-28T14:36:20Z")

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> [@critter42](#):
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> Jake LaMotta

Holy crap, I thought he died like 25 years ago. Apparently not. That’s one of the things I like about this game, it’s educational…

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 2:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/164 "2015-12-28T14:46:36Z")

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> [@Schnitte](#):
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> Yuri Cordeiro

There’s an idea for a theme, a list composed of the world’s top wing suit pilots. There were [five reported fatalities this year](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatalities_due_to_wingsuit_flying), up from three in each of the the two previous years. Those guys are nucking futz.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/165 "2015-12-28T15:14:11Z")

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> [@Fear\_Itself](#):
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> There’s an idea for a theme, a list composed of the world’s top wing suit pilots. There were [five reported fatalities this year](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatalities_due_to_wingsuit_flying), up from three in each of the the two previous years. Those guys are nucking futz.

Yeah, I had [the same thought](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=18492494&postcount=1540) a few months back.

And BASE jumpers, wingsuit flyers, whatever you want to call them - they’re _young_ - all in their 20s and 30s. With a themed list of these guys, two deaths would get you into the top 10, most years.

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**Author:** ![Tit\_Whistle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/858c86/32.png) [@Tit\_Whistle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tit_Whistle)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/166 "2015-12-28T16:58:12Z")

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Muhammad Ali  
George HW Bush  
Fats Domino  
Joey Feek  
Valerie Harper  
Mike Ilitch  
Clive James  
Mary Tyler Moore  
Ryan O’Neal  
David Prowse  
Leon Redbone  
Mel Stottlemyre  
John Szeles

Alternate:  
Shane MacGowan

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**Author:** ![rucciface](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ba9def/32.png) [@rucciface](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rucciface)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/167 "2015-12-28T17:32:24Z")

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Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Artie Lange  
Gavin MacLeod  
Jerry Lewis  
Fidel Castro  
Aretha Franklin  
Ed Asner  
David Soul  
Joanne Woodward  
Sparky Lyle  
Bob Barker  
Nancy Reagan  
Kirk Douglas

Jaye P. Morgan  
Tina Turner  
Drew Carey

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**Author:** ![Lsura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Lsura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lsura)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 6:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/168 "2015-12-28T18:21:22Z")

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Y’all, I almost \*\*forgot \*\*about the Death Pool. That would have been a major crisis. Since I remembered in time, here goes:

Jean Auel  
Pope Benedict XVI  
Tom Brokaw  
George H.W. Bush  
Jimmy Carter  
Fidel Castro  
Joey Feek  
Jared Fogle  
Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Valerie Harper  
Loretta Lynn  
Prince Philip  
Nancy Reagan

Alternates:  
Tina Turner  
Queen Elizabeth II  
Donald Trump

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/169 "2015-12-28T19:41:20Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> Oh glorious beautiful **Death Mistress** , if you could post another update tomorrow, after a few more entries, I promise I will post my list no later than Wednesday

As of the time I’m typing we have 471 celebrities picked, 368 of which are unique.

The following is a bandwagon list:

Joey Feek 28  
George H. W. Bush 21  
Valerie Harper 20  
Jimmy Carter 18  
Fidel Castro 15  
Nancy Reagan 12  
Charlie Sheen 11  
Glen Campbell 11  
Kirk Douglas 11  
Lindsay Lohan 11  
Muhammad Ali 11  
Bashar al-Assad 10  
Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi 9  
Burt Reynolds 9  
Tommy Chong 9

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/170 "2015-12-28T19:47:48Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> It looks as if play is slowing down. As of this day last year we had 69 players. So far this year we have 58 players.

Which time zone do we go by? Hypothetically speaking, say when the ball drops at midnight, and 2 minutes later we hear that Hugh Hefner dies, does it depend on where he was when he died? California time is 3 hours earlier than Eastern. So in California, it’s still 12/31/15 for another couple of hours.

> [@Tit\_Whistle](#):
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> Muhammad Ali  
> George HW Bush  
> Fats Domino  
> Joey Feek  
> Valerie Harper  
> Mike Ilitch  
> Clive James  
> Mary Tyler Moore  
> Ryan O’Neal  
> David Prowse  
> Leon Redbone  
> Mel Stottlemyre  
> John Szeles
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> Alternate:  
> Shane MacGowan

On John Szeles, you might want to specify that you mean “The Amazing Jonathan.” I believe the lovely **Baker** has said to include their professional name/stage name, to help with record keeping and list recognition.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/171 "2015-12-28T20:10:47Z")

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The Death Pool has always been on Central Standard Time, the time zone of Chicago, IL, USA, which is home to the Dope’s newspaper, The Chicago Reader.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/172 "2015-12-28T20:17:55Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> The Death Pool has always been on Central Standard Time, the time zone of Chicago, IL, USA, which is home to the Dope’s newspaper, The Chicago Reader.

Yep, that’s it. It’s also the time zone I reside in, that makes things easier.

I oversee the Death Pool of another, smaller board, and up until this year, when I took that one over, it was on Pacific Time. But the person with the scythe makes the rules, so I changed it to Central. i also play on a third board, and the person running that one is in England, so they’re on Greenwich Mean Time, six hours ahead of us.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/173 "2015-12-28T20:32:46Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> Which time zone do we go by? Hypothetically speaking, say when the ball drops at midnight, and 2 minutes later we hear that Hugh Hefner dies, does it depend on where he was when he died? California time is 3 hours earlier than Eastern. So in California, it’s still 12/31/15 for another couple of hours.

> [@anyrose](#):
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> The Death Pool has always been on Central Standard Time, the time zone of Chicago, IL, USA, which is home to the Dope’s newspaper, The Chicago Reader.

I had been wondering about that as well. Since dates of death are almost always published, but times of death frequently aren’t, that could present problems if someone died on January 1 in New Zealand (but may have died while it was still December 31 in Chicago) or died on December 31 in Hawaii (but may have died when it was already January 1 in Chicago).

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**Author:** ![Stephe96](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bbe5ce/32.png) [@Stephe96](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stephe96)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/174 "2015-12-28T21:02:29Z")

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I’ll try my Beatles-themed list from a few years back. Why not?

Paul McCartney  
Ringo Starr  
George Martin  
Yoko Ono  
Julian Lennon  
Pete Best  
Sean Lennon  
Olivia Harrison  
Dhani Harrison  
Jane Asher  
Patti Boyd Harrison  
Zak Starkey  
Stella McCartney

Alternates:

Jeff Lynne  
Tom Petty  
Bob Dylan

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**Author:** ![Andrew\_21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bcef8e/32.png) [@Andrew\_21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andrew_21)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 10:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/175 "2015-12-28T22:12:46Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> I had been wondering about that as well. Since dates of death are almost always published, but times of death frequently aren’t, that could present problems if someone died on January 1 in New Zealand (but may have died while it was still December 31 in Chicago) or died on December 31 in Hawaii (but may have died when it was already January 1 in Chicago).

In the past, the date of a celebrity’s death was based on local time. Has that changed?

> [@The Celebrity Death Pool 2012](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/2964):
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> **Baker** is the boss and what she says goes, but I always figured if it’s 2013 where the person died, then it’s good only for the 2013 game. If you’re celebrating New Year’s in Tokyo and drop dead after midnight Tokyo time, then you died in 2013, even if it won’t be 2013 for a while by Chicago time.

> [@The Celebrity Death Pool 2012](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/the-celebrity-death-pool-2012/604679/2965):
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> I think that **a35362** ’s figuring is correct. Submissions are different from actual deaths(thank heavens) So Down Under posters will be submitting entries on their Jan. !. But if, say, their head of state died on their Jan. 1, that would only be for 2013.

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**Author:** ![anyrose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/54ee81/32.png) [@anyrose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/anyrose)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/176 "2015-12-28T22:34:07Z")

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Why are you talking about a two year old Death Pool?

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**Author:** ![Andrew\_21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bcef8e/32.png) [@Andrew\_21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andrew_21)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/177 "2015-12-28T22:42:22Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> Why are you talking about a two year old Death Pool?

I was asking about the current rule. Wouldn’t the rule from two years ago still be in effect? As far as I can tell, there has been no change in the rule since then.

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**Author:** ![SpoilerVirgin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4491bb/32.png) [@SpoilerVirgin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SpoilerVirgin)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/178 "2015-12-28T23:04:17Z")

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Continuing my annual theme of people who refuse to die (although to be strictly accurate, Liza has moved up to replace the late Robert Loggia):

Dana Carvey  
Fidel Castro  
Michael Douglas  
Richard Dreyfuss  
Zsa Zsa Gabor  
Judith Krantz  
Gina Lollobrigida  
John McLaughlin  
Gerald McRaney  
Frankie Muniz  
John Paul Stevens  
Brian Wilson  
Liza Minnelli  
Note that John McLaughlin is the host of The McLaughlin Group, and Brian Wilson is the Beach Boy.

Alternates:

George H.W. Bush  
George W. Bush  
Shirley Knight

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**Author:** ![justmeetee](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/898d66/32.png) [@justmeetee](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/justmeetee)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/179 "2015-12-28T23:17:00Z")

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Well since no one on my list for 2015 left us except an alternate ( Medowlark Lemon), I’ll keep it for 2016.  
Charlie Watts  
Bart Starr  
Jimmy Carter  
George H W Bush  
Joe Namath  
Don Shula  
Bob Uecker  
Doc Severinsen  
Jerry Lewis  
Jerry Lee Lewis  
Doris Day  
Cloris Leachman  
Betty White  
Bob Newhart  
Carol Burnett

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 28, 2015, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/180 "2015-12-28T23:30:49Z")

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> [@anyrose](#):
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> Why are you talking about a two year old Death Pool?

They like to argue.:dubious:

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [December 29, 2015, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2016/739098/181 "2015-12-29T00:13:28Z")

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If I post my list this way:

[Boris Spassky](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boris_Spassky)  
[Pelé](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pel%C3%A9)  
[Ali Khamenei](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Khamenei)  
[Pervez Musharraf](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pervez_Musharraf)  
[Maggie Smith](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maggie_Smith)  
[Aung San Suu Kyi](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aung_San_Suu_Kyi)  
[Tarkan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarkan_%28singer%29)  
[Grace Mugabe](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Mugabe)  
[Thijs van Leer](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thijs_van_Leer)  
[Lech Walesa](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lech_Wa%C5%82%C4%99sa)  
[Akihito](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Akihito)  
[Winnie Mandela](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winnie_Madikizela-Mandela)  
[Russell Coutts](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell_Coutts)

* * *

[Ginger Baker](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginger_Baker)  
[Pedro Almodovar](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedro_Almod%C3%B3var)  
[Daniel Ortega](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Ortega)

for clarity, can you copy those names ok, or do you want me to repost it plain?

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