# Celebrity Death Pool 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2016, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517 "2016-12-01T07:00:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 8:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/21 "2016-12-01T20:39:38Z")

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Links to this and all previous Death Pool threads:

2017 by **Idle Thoughts** :  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=812514](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=812514)

2016 by **Baker** :

> **[Celebrity Death Pool 2016](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=776787)**
>
> \*\*\*It’s the most wonderful time of the year!!! Well, here we go for 2016! I’m Baker, your Death Mistress, ready to wield the ceremonial scythe for one more year. Please read the following rules for how to play and how to submit your entries! ...

2015 by **Baker** :

> **[Celebrity Death Pool 2015](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=742233)**
>
> It’s the most wonderful time of the year!!! Well, here we go for 2015! I’m Baker, your Death Mistress, ready to wield the ceremonial scythe for another year. Please read the following rules for how to play and how to submit your entries! Very...

2014 by **Baker** :

> **[Celebrity Death Pool 2014](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=709201)**
>
> “It’s the most wonderful time of the year!“ Well, here we go for 2014! I’m Baker, your Death Mistress, ready to wield the ceremonial scythe for another year. It never hurts to list all the rules again, and there is only one minor change I have...

2013 by **Baker** :

> **[The Celebrity Death Pool 2013](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=674062)**
>
> “It’s the most wonderful time of the year!“ Well, here we go for 2013! I’m Baker, your Death Mistress, with the power of life and death over the choices made here. Nothing much has really changed with the rules, but it never hurts to list them all...

2012 by **Baker** :

> **[The Celebrity Death Pool 2012](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=633271)**
>
> “It’s the most wonderful time of the year!“ Well, here we go for 2012! I’m Baker, your new Death Mistress, taking over for amarone. Give amarone three cheers for all the hard work s/he has put in. HUZZAH! HUZZAH! HUZZAH! Nothing has really...

2011 by **amarone** :  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=587533](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/...d.php?t=587533)

2010 by **amarone** :

> **[The Celebrity Death Pool 2010](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=542082)**
>
> Here we go for 2010. The rules are as before, but with one change to eligibility of picks - people famous solely for being ill or for actions associated with their illness (e.g. charity walks) are not permitted. See next post for more details as to...

2009 by **amarone** :

> **[The Celebrity Death Pool 2009](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=495515)**
>
> Here we go for 2009. The rules are exactly as before, but with one change to the awards: the “Inside Track with the Grim Reaper” Award now goes to the person with the most unique picks, not shared by everyone who had a unique pick. 17 of 41 deceased...

2008 by **amarone** :

> **[The Celebrity Death Pool 2008](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=446179)**
>
> Here we go for 2008. The rules are exactly as before, but please note my request at the bottom of the post that you submit your list in a specific format. The Rules: You pick 13 celebrities (that’s thirteen, not ten) whom you predict will die...

2007 by **a35362** :

> **[The Celebrity Death Pool 2007](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=398513)**
>
> Presenting for your enjoyment the sickest thread on the SDMB – the Celebrity Death Pool 2007! fanfare The Rules: 1. You pick 13 celebrities (that’s thirteen, not ten) whom you predict will die within the calendar year 2007. If any of your...

2006 by **a35362** :

> **[The Celebrity Death Pool 2006](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=347482)**
>
> It’s time once again for the sickest thread on the board – the Celebrity Death Pool 2006! The Rules: 1. You pick 13 celebrities whom you predict will die within the calendar year 2006. If any of your celebrities dies, you score 100 points minus...

2005 by **a35362** :  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=289505](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=289505)

2004 by **a35362** :  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=226569](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=226569)

2003 by **a35362** :  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=147316](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=147316)

2002 by **Little Nemo** :  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=101918](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=101918)

2001 by **Little Nemo** :  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=49083](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=49083)

2000 by **Little Nemo** :  
[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=20546](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=20546)

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 8:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/22 "2016-12-01T20:52:23Z")

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Michael Douglas  
Donald Trump  
Bill Clinton  
Kathy Bates  
Amanda Bynes  
Angelina Jolie  
Michael J. Fox  
Sylvester Stallone  
Peter Dinklage  
Kesha “Ke$ha” Sebert  
Owen Wilson  
Conor MacGregor  
Jim Carrey

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**Author:** ![Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/prof.pepperwinkle/32/13627_2.png) [@Prof.Pepperwinkle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Prof.Pepperwinkle)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 8:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/23 "2016-12-01T20:54:42Z")

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Bill Cosby  
Ned Beatty  
Margaret O’Brien  
Ridley Scott  
Morgan Freeman  
Marlo Thomas  
Linda Lavin  
Tommy Smothers  
Vanessa Redgrave  
Billy Dee Williams  
Sally Kellerman  
Boris Spassky  
Loretta Swit

Alternates:  
Dyan Cannon  
Trini Lopez

They all turn 80 in 2017.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/24 "2016-12-01T20:58:21Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> Yes, although I’m not sure I remember any ties for first ever happening before. Seems like a long shot, but if there is, uh, whoever got to that high score FIRST is the winner.

The thing is it’s fairly likely that if two people have a tie score, it’s because they picked the same people.

Let’s say two people decided to pick all three Olsen sisters and they all die. Both people will score 213 points and neither will have done it first.

You might consider a second-level tie breaker: if two people are tied for high score and have the same picks, the one who posted their list first wins the tie.

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**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/25 "2016-12-01T21:27:54Z")

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That’s a good one too. I’l go with that. Thank you, **Little Nemo** , for that great suggestion.  
For it, I award you [del]one bonus pre-point for this game[/del]…Hah, just kidding. Don’t worry, I’m not going to start abusing my DeathMaster powers already. I award you: My sincere thanks.

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**Author:** ![Happy\_Lendervedder](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/happy_lendervedder/32/8488_2.png) [@Happy\_Lendervedder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Lendervedder)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/26 "2016-12-01T22:02:31Z")

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Gord Downie  
Tommy Chong  
Leah Bracknell  
Tom Brokaw  
AA Gill  
Jill Gascoine  
Jim McMahon  
Goldie Hawn  
Colin Butts  
Kanye West  
Valerie Harper  
Steve Gleason  
Fernando Ricksen

Descriptive list:  
Gord Downie, Canadian musician  
Tommy Chong, American comedian  
Leah Bracknell, British actress  
Tom Brokaw, American journalist  
AA Gill, British writer  
Jill Gascoine, British actress  
Jim McMahon, American athlete  
Goldie Hawn, American actress  
Colin Butts, British author  
Kanye West, American musician  
Valerie Harper, American actress  
Steve Gleason, American athlete  
Fernando Ricksen, Dutch athlete

Alternates:

1. Amanda Bynes
2. Charles Bradley
3. Coretta Scott King

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/27 "2016-12-01T22:35:22Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
>
> You don’t have to pick alternates. People do it in case one of their picks dies before 2017 (or is ruled ineligible).

Are they still accepted?

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**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/28 "2016-12-01T22:37:14Z")

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My first year playing!

This list is simply a list of celebs that I know are old and / or sick. I’m not good at “themed” lists, but if I play next year I’ll try to come up with something better.

Joseph Razinger  
John Hurt  
Buzz Aldrin  
Glen Campbell  
Jimmy Carter  
George H. W. Bush  
Betty White  
Ken Watanabe  
John McVie  
Barry Corbin  
Geoffrey Palmer  
Bob Dole  
Stephen Hawking  
And in case one a couple kick the bucket 'twixt now and Dec 31, my alternates are:

Sean Connery  
Kate Moss

I’m not looking forward to reading any of these obits. It remains to be seen how prophetic I am since I have no history to use as a benchmark.

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**Author:** ![vivalostwages](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/d07c76/32.png) [@vivalostwages](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vivalostwages)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 11:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/29 "2016-12-01T23:05:43Z")

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> [@vivalostwages](#):
>
> When I removed Fidel Castro from my list, he died. Same thing happened when I removed Michael Jackson and Amy Winehouse. So…I am not gonna make too many changes to my next list.  
> Sumner Redstone  
> Kirk Douglas  
> Charlie Sheen  
> Karl Rove  
> Dick Cheney  
> Jimmy Carter  
> Hal Holbrook  
> Ginger Baker  
> George H.W. Bush  
> Frances Sternhagen  
> Shelley Duvall  
> Paul Dooley  
> Val Kilmer

Can I remove Baker and replace him with Buzz Aldrin?

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**Author:** ![DeaderThanDead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3ab097/32.png) [@DeaderThanDead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DeaderThanDead)\
**Post date:** [December 1, 2016, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/30 "2016-12-01T23:06:07Z")

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I’ve played on a few similar sites before, I’ll give this a try:  
Sasha Lakovic  
Leah Bracknell  
Piers Sellers  
Colin Meads  
Carsten Mohren  
Marieke Vervoort  
Gord Downie  
John J. Benoit  
A A Gill  
Errol Christie  
Stefán Karl Stefánsson  
John Bain  
Peter Skellern

Subs (in this order):  
Kassie DePaiva  
Nobby Stiles  
Bart Starr

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/31 "2016-12-02T02:29:08Z")

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> [@Lancia](#):
>
> My first year playing!
> 
> This list is simply a list of celebs that I know are old and / or sick. I’m not good at “themed” lists, but if I play next year I’ll try to come up with something better.
> 
> Joseph Razinger

Which Joseph Razinger?

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 2:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/32 "2016-12-02T02:53:00Z")

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Good Lord, how many Joseph Razingers are there?

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/33 "2016-12-02T04:08:53Z")

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For all I know, hundreds. But it’s easier for the DeathMaster not to have to search two names. I remember the years there were two Raul Castros.

Also, it’s Ra **t** zinger, not Razinger. In the post where I quoted, I deliberately spelled it as it had been listed.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 5:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/34 "2016-12-02T05:23:19Z")

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Getting a placeholder in on the first page. Damn rappers were healthy this past year.  
I’ve threatened this for a few years - Rappers who (could) die young.  
Probably a lot of uniques. I’ll be back with real names.

Chief Keef  
Waka Flocka Flame  
ScHoolboy Q  
Ty Dolla Sign  
Tech N9ne  
Birdman  
Young Thug  
Pusha T  
Riff Raff  
Bobby Shmurda  
Wale  
X-Raided  
Max B

Alts.  
Lil Twist  
Shyne  
Turk

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**Author:** ![Lancia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lancia/32/17174_2.png) [@Lancia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lancia)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 6:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/35 "2016-12-02T06:01:49Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
>
> For all I know, hundreds. But it’s easier for the DeathMaster not to have to search two names. I remember the years there were two Raul Castros.
> 
> Also, it’s Ra **t** zinger, not Razinger. In the post where I quoted, I deliberately spelled it as it had been listed.

Good catch, thank you. Yes, Joseph Ra **t** zinger, the Sarah Palin of Popes. Just in case **Idle Thoughts** really was confused. I don’t want to miss those sweet, sweet points should the Pope Emeritus decide that it’s time to inspect heaven first-hand.

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**Author:** ![meghan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e47c2d/32.png) [@meghan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/meghan)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/36 "2016-12-02T16:33:11Z")

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Thank you, **Idle Thoughts** , for carrying on the tradition. Thank you, Baker, for having done so in the past.

I had to update my list (two deceased celebrities last year!).

Keith Richards  
Jerry Lewis  
Hillary Clinton  
MaryKate Olsen  
Lance Armstrong  
Vladimir Putin  
Hamid Karzai  
Dick Cheney  
Billy Graham  
Bernie Madoff  
Lindsey Lohan  
Steve Bannon  
Abu Bakr al Baghdadi

Alternates:  
Bernard Cardinal Law  
Pat Boone

Billy Graham is the evangelist

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**Author:** ![Fleetwood](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fleetwood/32/271_2.png) [@Fleetwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fleetwood)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/37 "2016-12-02T16:33:36Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
>
> **Scoring**
> 
> \*\*Most things will be kept the same. However ONE major change I’m implementing is a change in how score will be kept. I’m going back to the roots of it. How it was originally done. With as simple a score as possible. This means I will display the poster’s name, their place, and their score only…and that’s it. All as it should be.
> 
> If two people have a score of 87 and everyone else has 0, those two are TIED AT FIRST. If one has 87, two have 78, and everyone else zero, then those two are TIED AT SECOND.

If in your second example, a fourth contestant had 43 points, what place would that one have? Fourth, I hope.

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**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/38 "2016-12-02T16:45:35Z")

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> [@Fleetwood](#):
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> If in your second example, a fourth contestant had 43 points, what place would that one have? Fourth, I hope.

That’s the point. Your contestant is third.

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**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/39 "2016-12-02T16:47:29Z")

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> [@Happy\_Lendervedder](#):
>
> Gord Downie

Are we allowed to pick celebrities whose fame is significantly enhanced by the fact they are, in fact, known to be dying?

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2016, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/40 "2016-12-02T16:51:02Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
>
> Getting a placeholder in on the first page. Damn rappers were healthy this past year.  
> I’ve threatened this for a few years - Rappers who (could) die young.  
> Probably a lot of uniques. I’ll be back with real names.
> 
> Chief Keef  
> Waka Flocka Flame  
> ScHoolboy Q  
> Ty Dolla Sign  
> Tech N9ne  
> Birdman  
> Young Thug  
> Pusha T  
> Riff Raff  
> Bobby Shmurda  
> Wale  
> X-Raided  
> Max B
> 
> Alts.  
> Lil Twist  
> Shyne  
> Turk

Would you be willing to put real money down on those being fake rapper names? 😃

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