# Celebrity Death Pool 2017 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** death-pool\ **Created:** [December 1, 2016, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517 "2016-12-01T07:00:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![Registered\_at\_Last](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bc79bd/32.png) [@Registered\_at\_Last](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Registered_at_Last)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 6:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/401 "2017-01-01T06:53:11Z")
Here is my list for next year. A fair bit of Canadian content for our sesquicentennial, but I didn’t find nearly enough for a theme: Bryan Murray (Ottawa Senator’s GM) Joost van der Westhuizen (South African Rugby Player) Helen Fawkes (UK journalist) John Mann (Spirit of the West singer) Gord Downie (Tragically Hip singer/ Canadian legend) Judy Martz (Former governor) Janet Edmonds (Newfoundland actress ) Marie Fredriksson (Roxette singer) Leah Bracknell (UK actress) Ted Mack (Australian politician) Stuart McLean (Canadian broadcaster/legend) Stefan Karl (Actor – Robbie Rotten on Lazy Town) Greg Gilbert (Delays Singer) Alternates: Mel Stottlemyre Sr. (Baseball legend) Tommy Chong Valerie Harper Penny Marshall Clean List: Bryan Murray Joost van der Westhuizen Helen Fawkes John Mann Gord Downie Judy Martz Janet Edmonds Marie Fredriksson Leah Bracknell Ted Mack Stuart McLean Stefan Karl Greg Gilbert ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 6:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/402 "2017-01-01T06:55:52Z")
FINAL list: Joost van der Westhuizen (b. 2/20/71) Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (b. 7/28/71) Johnathan Szeles (b. 9/9/58) Fernando Ricksen (dutch soccer star) (b. 7/27/76) John “TotalBiscuit” Bain (b. 7/8/84) Jeff Lowe (b. 9/13/50) Gord Downie (b. 2/6/64) Shannen Doherty (b. 4/12/71) Michael Schumacher (b. 1/3/69) Turki al-Binali (b. 9/3/84) Abu As’ad al-Iraqi (["the new Emir of Tal Afar](http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2016/12/30/US-Iraqi-sources-say-Islamic-State-leader-Baghdadi-alive-despite-death-reports/4961483098549/)," per al-Baghdadi, age 40) Angelo Bissessarsingh, historian, age 34 Leah Bracknell, actress Alternate: Danny Delport (South African/Rhodesian rugby star) age 64 Clean list: Joost van der Westhuizen Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi Johnathan Szeles Fernando Ricksen John Bain Jeff Lowe Gord Downie Shannen Doherty Michael Schumacher Turki al-Binali Abu As’ad al-Iraqi Angelo Bissessarsingh Leah Bracknell Alternate: Danny Delport ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 6:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/403 "2017-01-01T06:58:51Z")
One more minute. : p ---
**Author:** ![El\_Famous\_Burrito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_famous_burrito/32/3954_2.png) [@El\_Famous\_Burrito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Famous_Burrito)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 6:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/404 "2017-01-01T06:59:01Z")
My lists the past couple years have leaned younger (high risk, high reward!) and have been heavy on folks with some connection to Chicago. So I’ve decided to combine these into a themed list this year: **Celebrities Under 55 with a Connection to Chicago**. Admittedly, the connection is sometimes quite tenuous. **Clean List** Heather Mack Chief Keef Lil Durk Jereme Richmond Louis King Johnson Jr. Jesus Alfredo Guzman Salazar Jeremiah Ratliff Giuliana Rancic Jesse Jackson Jr. Jose Canseco Melodie Gliniewicz William Perry Joe Walsh **With Commentary**. Current age (or thereabouts) in parentheses: Heather Mack (20) – Co-perpetrator in the Bali suitcase murder case. Serving prison time in Indonesia. Chief Keef (21) – a/k/a Keith Cozart, perpetually troubled “drill” rapper from Chicago. For a while he was popping up in the local news about monthly for yet another DUI, drug charge, shooting incident, etc. Lil Durk (23) – a/k/a Durk Banks, another drill rapper from Chicago that seems to find annual trouble with gun charges. His manager was gunned down last year. Jereme Richmond (24) – Native of north suburbs and former University of Illinois basketball player frequently in trouble with the law. Louis King Johnson Jr. (29) – Chicago-based drill rapper better known as “King Louie” or “King L.” Shot in the head on Dec. 23rd. Jesus Alfredo Guzman Salazar (29) – Son of drug kingpin Joaquín Guzmán. Recently kidnapped and released. Indicted in a Chicago court. Jeremiah Ratliff (34) – Defensive lineman fired from the Chicago Bears in October after bizarre behavior and outbursts. Committed DUI a couple years ago. Giuliana Rancic (42) – TV personality and socialite who has battled cancer on and off. Jesse Jackson Jr. (51) – Former Congressman. Son of famed civil rights leader. Recently out of prison, filed for divorce, and battling bi-polar disorder and depression. Jose Canseco (52) – Former baseball player. Played for White Sox for a single season. Melodie Gliniewicz (52) – Wife of former northwest suburban cop Joe Gliniewicz (killed himself whilst trying to appear he died in line of duty), now in trouble with the law for fraud. William “The Fridge” Perry (53)\* – Former Chicago Bear. Joe Walsh (55) – Former congressman. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/405 "2017-01-01T07:00:01Z")
> [@emcee2k](#): > > I just checked, and apparently he died a few hours after I posted this. Does that mean my first alternate (Xi Jinping) automatically moves up to my main list, or was I supposed to call it out before the deadline? No worries, I’d automatically use alternates. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 7:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/406 "2017-01-01T07:02:58Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > **TIME UNTIL THIS CLOSES: EIGHT HOURS From this post.** Time stamp: 6:07pm EST 12/31. Just sayin’. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Mudshark](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f04885/32.png) [@Mudshark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mudshark)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 7:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/407 "2017-01-01T07:04:10Z")
I just realized I spelled Robert Mugabe’s name wrong. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Famous\_Burrito](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_famous_burrito/32/3954_2.png) [@El\_Famous\_Burrito](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Famous_Burrito)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 7:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/408 "2017-01-01T07:52:13Z")
_Note to **Idle Thoughts** : my clean list – as submitted right under the deadline – is unaffected. The below edits simply update my accompanying commentary._ Some sloppy copying-and-pasting from last year’s list introduced errors into my comments. These are hopefully fixed below… **Heather Mack** (20)\* – Co-perpetrator in the Bali suitcase murder case. Serving prison time in Indonesia. From a Chicago suburb. **Chief Keef** (21)\* – a/k/a Keith Cozart, perpetually troubled “drill” rapper from Chicago. For a while he was popping up in the local news about monthly for yet another DUI, drug charge, shooting incident, etc. **Lil Durk** (24)\* – a/k/a Durk Banks, another drill rapper from Chicago that seems to find annual trouble with gun charges. His manager was gunned down in 2015. **Jereme Richmond** (24) – Former University of Illinois basketball player frequently in trouble with the law. Native of north suburbs. **Louis King Johnson Jr.** (29)\* – Chicago-based drill rapper better known as “King Louie” or “King L.” Shot in the head in December 2015. **Jesus Alfredo Guzman Salazar** (29) – Son of drug kingpin Joaquín Guzmán. Recently kidnapped and released. Indicted in a Chicago court (though still roaming Mexico). **Jeremiah Ratliff** (35)\* – Defensive lineman fired from the Chicago Bears in October 2015 after bizarre behavior and outbursts. Committed DUI a couple years ago. **Giuliana Rancic** (42) – TV personality who has battled cancer on and off. Lives in Chicago. **Jesse Jackson Jr.** (51) – Son of famed civil rights leader. Former Chicago Congressman. Recently out of prison after serving time for campaign fraud. Filed for divorce a few weeks ago. Has been battling bi-polar disorder and depression for several years. **Jose Canseco** (52) – Former baseball player with penchant for risky behavior. Played for the White Sox in his final MLB season. **Melodie Gliniewicz** (52) – Widow of Joe Gliniewicz, a cop from the far northwest suburbs who committed suicide (but staged things to appear as if he was killed in the line duty) to cover up fraud. Melodie is in trouble for her involvement in the scheme. **William “The Fridge” Perry** (54)\* – Former Chicago Bear. **Joe Walsh** (55) – Former congressman representing northern suburbs. Seems to be coming unhinged. \*_Rolled over from last year’s list_ ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 8:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/409 "2017-01-01T08:46:21Z")
For those scoring at home I think a few of us picked Stef Karl Stefansson. To clear up confusion, because of Icelandic naming conventions he is alternatively listed as Stefan Karl. Both are valid and it’s the same guy. I had hoped to get a unique with that one. With the number of times I had to sit through Lazytown with my daughter I should get extra points. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 9:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/410 "2017-01-01T09:32:07Z")
Here’s the expanded version of my [already submitted](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=19888499&postcount=368) list, with Suisala removed. I’ve included birth dates (in YMD format) where possible: 1 Shauna Hoare Age 22 killer of Becky Watts. [Murder of Becky Watts - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Becky_Watts) 2 Tara Palmer Tomkinson 1971/12/23 [Tara Palmer-Tomkinson - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tara_Palmer-Tomkinson) 3 John Bain 1984/07/08 [TotalBiscuit - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TotalBiscuit) 4 Joost van der Westhuizen 1971/02/20 [Joost van der Westhuizen - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joost_van_der_Westhuizen) 5 Ruth Bader Ginsburg 1933/03/15 [Ruth Bader Ginsburg - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruth_Bader_Ginsburg) 6 Kim Jong-Un 1984/01/08 [Kim Jong Un - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kim_Jong-Un) 7 Shaun Greatbatch 1969/07/13 [Shaun Greatbatch - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaun_Greatbatch) 8 Jamie MacDonald 1990/11/19 [JudoInside - Jamie MacDonald Judoka](http://www.judoinside.com/judoka/47351/Jamie_MacDonald), [http://www.thelastthingiexpected.com/](http://www.thelastthingiexpected.com/) 9 Paul Gascoigne 1967/05/27 [Paul Gascoigne - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Gascoigne) 10 Ronnie Campbell 1943/08/14 [Ronnie Campbell - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronnie_Campbell) 11 Nick Boles 1965/11/02 [Nick Boles - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nick_Boles) 12 Angelo Bissessarsingh 1982/09/?? Journalist & historian 13 Brian Binley 1942/04/01 [Brian Binley - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Binley) 14 John Szeles The Amazing Jonathan 1958/09/09 [http://www.amazingj.com/](http://www.amazingj.com/) 15 Ali Carter 1979/07/25 [Ali Carter - Wikipedia](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Carter) ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 4:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/411 "2017-01-01T16:04:35Z")
> [@Mr.Goob](#): > > My first ever post was a death pool list. > > Ive been thinking about the old and the sickly but choose instead those of dubious habits. > > One prime rib away from a bam is Steve Christy and Emeril Lagasse. > > Flying is dangerous to Harrison Ford and John Travolta. > > Drugs are bad for Courtney Love, Edward Furlong, Charlie Sheen, Lindsey Lohan, Axl Rose, Macaulay Calkin, Val Kilmer and it’s going to catch up a sooner or later to Keith Richards. > > Emeril Lagasse > Steve Christy > Harrison Ford > John Travolta > Courtney Love > Edward Furlong > Charlie Sheen > Lindsey Lohan > Axl Rose > Macaulay Calkin > Val Kilmer > Keith Richards > And all hail our new patron saint replacing Abe Vagoda, Bette White. Who is Steve Christy? ---
**Author:** ![BobLibDem](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/boblibdem/32/3149_2.png) [@BobLibDem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BobLibDem)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/412 "2017-01-01T16:36:42Z")
Did anyone have William Christopher? Whoops, he was the last of 2016, not the first of 2017. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/413 "2017-01-01T17:30:45Z")
> [@phungi](#): > > Who is Steve Christy? NFL kicker Steve Christie? ---
**Author:** ![Hockey\_Monkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a183cd/32.png) [@Hockey\_Monkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hockey_Monkey)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/414 "2017-01-01T19:34:06Z")
> [@Hockey\_Monkey](#): > > Joost van der Westhuizen > Gord Downie > Valerie Harper > Kanye West > Paul Gascoigne > Donald Trump > JT Holmes > Alex Honnold > Shannen Doherty > Scott Matzka > Joost van der Westhuizen > Gord Downie > Valerie Harper > Kanye West > Paul Gascoigne > Donald Trump > JT Holmes > Alex Honnold > Shannen Doherty > Scott Matzka > Carrie Fisher > Charlie Sheen > Brooke Mueller > Joost van der Westhuizen > Gord Downie > Valerie Harper > Kanye West > Paul Gascoigne > Donald Trump > JT Holmes > Alex Honnold > Shannen Doherty > Scott Matzka > Carrie Fisher > Charlie Sheen > Brooke Mueller > The Amazing Johnathan, John Edward Szeles > Charlie Sheen > Brooke Mueller > > Replacing Carrie Fisher with The Amazing Johnathan real name John Edward Szeles. Which name do you prefer we use Deathmaster? Good lord was I drunk when I posted this? Thanks Little Nemo for fixing it up for me. LOL damn. ---
**Author:** ![panache45](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/panache45/32/64_2.png) [@panache45](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/panache45)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/415 "2017-01-01T20:27:55Z")
> [@BobLibDem](#): > > Did anyone have William Christopher? Whoops, he was the last of 2016, not the first of 2017. I had him as an alt for 2017. I should get _something_ for missing by mere hours. ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 9:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/416 "2017-01-01T21:52:29Z")
> [@panache45](#): > > I had him as an alt for 2017. I should get _something_ for missing by mere hours. You get exactly what you would have scored if he was an alternate. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2017, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/417 "2017-01-01T21:53:43Z")
Still no reported deaths yet? Well, that’s good. 2017 is off to a good start. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/418 "2017-01-02T04:41:59Z")
Toronto Film Fest Founder and Producer Bill Marshall Dies at 77 > **[Toronto Film Fest Founder and Producer Bill Marshall Dies at 77](https://variety.com/2017/film/festivals/bill-marshall-dead-toronto-film-festival-founder-1201950949/)** > > Bill Marshall, who co-founded the Toronto International Film Festival in 1976, died Sunday in Toronto. He was 77. The festival and his family reported that he died of cardiac arrest while in the ho… ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 11:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/419 "2017-01-02T11:15:49Z")
Hey **Idle Thoughts** , maybe it’s time to remove the [Deadline in a Few Hours] from the thread title? ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2017, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/420 "2017-01-02T14:25:44Z")
Got started early this year, and completed the 2017 Death Pool Scorekeeper, which automatically tracks scores, ranks, total picks, and unique picks, requiring you to only put in a celeb’s age at death. If anyone would like a copy of the off-line Scorekeeper, PM me an email address. It requires having Microsoft Excel on your computer. Working on a Google Sheets version, but not there yet. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517.md?page=22)