# Celebrity Death Pool 2017 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** death-pool\ **Created:** [December 1, 2016, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517 "2016-12-01T07:00:03Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Whiskey\_Dickens](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/9fc348/32.png) [@Whiskey\_Dickens](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Whiskey_Dickens)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/81 "2016-12-07T14:00:23Z")
> [@kayT](#): > > So what is the POINT of making a rule about something POINTLESS? _checks join date_ _re-reads comment_ _scratches head_ ---
**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 4:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/82 "2016-12-07T16:05:44Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > 1. Jimmy Carter > 2. Jerry Lewis > 3. Billy Graham > 4. Burt Reynolds > 5. Mamie Van Doren > 6. Don Rickles > 7. Donald Drumpf > 8. Bill Clinton > 9. Stephen Hawking > 10. Courtney Love > 11. Yoko Ono > 12. Jimmy “Superfly” Snuka > 13. Adam West > > Alternates; > > 1. Phil Spector > 2. Hal Holbrook > 3. Donald Sutherland I am getting an early start working on a scorekeeper. Can you please submit a clean list without numbers ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/83 "2016-12-07T17:07:39Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > **DING DING DING** > > Some of you have picked **KIRK DOUGLAS** , but he’s turning 100 in a few days, you won’t get any points for him, he’s an invalid pick. > [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > I made a new rule saying: > > > [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > > > **The Rules** : > > 3. Valid picks CANNOT be: > > > > **b. already over 100** > > That means “100 exactly” too, since points can not be gotten. > [@N9IWP](#): > > Can someone pick someone who is exactly 100? If the celebrity dies at age 101 does the contestant get 0 points? > > Brian > Just a spectator, but wants the rules to be clear > [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Yes and yes, although since it would result in 0 points, I’m not sure why the person would want to pick them, heh. Well, OK then. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/84 "2016-12-07T17:55:06Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Harlan Ellison > Meat Loaf > Jimmy Carter > Rosalynn Carter > The Amazing Johnathan > Pat Boone > Pat Robertson > Kirk Douglas > John Rhys-Davies > Hal Holbrook > Donald Trump > Larry Flint > James Randi Revised List: Harlan Ellison Meat Loaf Jimmy Carter Rosalynn Carter The Amazing Johnathan Pat Boone Pat Robertson Joe Piscopo John Rhys-Davies Hal Holbrook Donald Trump Larry Flint James Randi Alternates: The Olson Twins. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/85 "2016-12-07T18:04:40Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Larry Flint If you’re talking about the guy who founded _Hustler_, it’s Larry Fl **y** nt. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/86 "2016-12-07T18:20:42Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Jimmy Carter > Jerry Lewis > Billy Graham > Burt Reynolds > Mamie Van Doren > Don Rickles > Donald Trump > Bill Clinton > Stephen Hawking > Courtney Love > Yoko Ono > Jimmy “Superfly” Snuka > Adam West > > Alternates; > > Phil Spector > Hal Holbrook > Donald Sutherland List without numbers ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/87 "2016-12-07T18:27:36Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > If you’re talking about the guy who founded _Hustler_, it’s Larry Fl **y** nt. yeah, that guy, the born-again Christian. ---
**Author:** ![Shoeless](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shoeless/32/7099_2.png) [@Shoeless](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shoeless)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 6:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/88 "2016-12-07T18:28:04Z")
I couldn’t decide whether to roll over last year’s list and fill in the gaps, or try something new. I think this year I am going to go with a themed list of sorts. **S** heen, Charlie - druggie actor **D** ouglas, Michael - actor **M** cCain, John - senator **B** rokaw, Tom - former news anchor **D** ale, Dick - king of surf guitar **E** dwards, Bob - radio host **A** shcroft, John - former atty general **T** rump, Donald - soon to be former president elect **H** awking, Stephen - theoretical physicist **P** rine, John - musician **O** sbourne, Ozzy - musician **O** sbourne, Sharon - wife of musician **L** ynn, Loretta - musician Clean List: Charlie Sheen Michael Douglas John McCain Tom Brokaw Dick Dale Bob Edwards John Ashcroft Donald Trump Stephen Hawking John Prine Ozzy Osbourne Sharon Osbourne Loretta Lynn Alternates: Jimmy Carter Rosalynn Carter Dick Cheney ---
**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/89 "2016-12-07T20:57:46Z")
[Dick Gephardt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Gephardt) – USA politician [Dick Gregory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Gregory) – comedian and civil rights activist [Dick Dale](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Dale) – The King of the Surf Guitar [Dick Allen](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Allen) – baseball player [Dick Green](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Green) – baseball player [Dick Pound](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Pound) – International Olympic Committee and World Anti-Doping Agency figure [Dick Jauron](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Jauron) – NFL player and coach [Dick Button](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Button) – figure skating luminary [Dick DeBartolo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_DeBartolo) – _Mad_ contributor [Dick Bennett](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Bennett) – college basketball coach [Dick LeBeau](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_LeBeau) – NFL player and coach [Dick Van Arsdale](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Van_Arsdale) – NBA basketball player [Andy Dick](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andy_Dick) – putative comedian/entertainer Plaintext (and alphabetized) version: Dick Allen Dick Bennett Dick Button Dick Dale Dick DeBartolo Andy Dick Dick Gephardt Dick Green Dick Gregory Dick Jauron Dick LeBeau Dick Pound Dick Van Arsdale ---
**Author:** ![CAMJAY77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5fc32e/32.png) [@CAMJAY77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CAMJAY77)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/90 "2016-12-07T22:02:19Z")
John Glenn hospitalized. Local (Ohio) tv says it’s not looking good for him. ---
**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\ **Post date:** [December 7, 2016, 10:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/91 "2016-12-07T22:04:51Z")
> [@CAMJAY77](#): > > John Glenn hospitalized. > Local (Ohio) tv says it’s not looking good for him. Did you mean to put this in the “2016” thread? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/92 "2016-12-08T00:56:46Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > Did you mean to put this in the “2016” thread? Perhaps it is a Helpful Hint. He is only worth 5 points. :dubious: ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/93 "2016-12-08T01:30:33Z")
> [@Baker](#): > > The point would be going for the Grim Reaper award, quantity not quality. It doesn’t make it irrelevant. “A person who has the most people who died on their list, regardless of how many points they get for the whole thing” would still apply as that award. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 1:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/94 "2016-12-08T01:33:27Z")
> [@RTFirefly](#): > > Well, OK then. Take this post… > [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > **DING DING DING** > > Some of you have picked **KIRK DOUGLAS** , but he’s turning 100 in a few days, you won’t get any points for him, he’s an invalid pick. …to read as: “Well, okay, if that’s what you really want, but you won’t get any points for it, I will just ignore that pick when tallying points”. ---
**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/95 "2016-12-08T01:52:59Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Take this post… > > …to read as: “Well, okay, if that’s what you really want, but you won’t get any points for it, I will just ignore that pick when tallying points”. With emphasis on the word ‘points,’ one hopes. Because as long as awards such as the ‘quantity not quality’ award are part of the game, there **is** a difference between ‘invalid pick’ and ‘valid pick, no points.’ Just sayin’. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/96 "2016-12-08T01:58:49Z")
I’m not going to be counting any invalid picks toward the “quantity, not quality” award. This means I will not count anyone over 100 or exactly 100 towards that award, on anyone’s list. I put it in the rules in the OP. Valid picks cannot already be 100. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 2:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/97 "2016-12-08T02:50:30Z")
Certainly sounds authoritarian just for the sake of it. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 3:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/98 "2016-12-08T03:05:25Z")
Really? You think the small rule change below (in bold), from the OP… > [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > 1. Valid picks CANNOT be: > a. already dead > **b. already over 100** > c. fictional > d. non-human > e. under age 18 > f. a registered member of the SDMB > g. hostages held by terrorist organizations > h. famous solely as a result of their illness or the events surrounding their death …is the power corrupting me? Well, I’m sorry you feel that way. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 3:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/99 "2016-12-08T03:07:04Z")
> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#): > > Really? > You think the small rule change below (in bold) > > …is the power corrupting me? > > Well, I’m sorry you feel that way. That, and the arbitrary change to the ranking system. ---
**Author:** ![Idle\_Thoughts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/838e76/32.png) [@Idle\_Thoughts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Idle_Thoughts)\ **Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/100 "2016-12-08T03:13:32Z")
It’s not a change, that’s how the ranking system originally was. Anyway, with all due respect, not every host is going to do it exactly like every other one. I’m a new guy, so I wanted to bring in a few new, small changes. I certainly don’t see it as anything huge or game breaking, but if you do…I’m sorry for it. I’m not going to sit in here and argue the case with people, though, so this is my last post on the subject. From here on, I’m only going to be answering game questions, not “debating about rule changes” stuff. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517.md?page=6)