# Celebrity Death Pool 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2016, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517 "2016-12-01T07:00:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/101 "2016-12-08T04:04:10Z")

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Bette Cooper  
Frances Marie Burke  
Jo-Carroll Dennison  
Venus Ramey  
BeBe Shopp  
Sharon Kay Ritchie  
Marian McKnight  
Marilyn Elaine Van Derbur  
Lynda Lee Mead Shea  
Nancy Anne Fleming  
Maria Beale Fletcher  
Jacquelyn Jeanne “Jackie” Mayer  
Donna Idelle Axum

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 3:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/102 "2016-12-08T15:15:01Z")

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(Low-hanging fruit)  
Clint Eastwood  
Willie Nelson  
Queen Elizabeth II  
John Madden  
Steven Tyler  
Oliver Platt  
Gabe Kaplan  
Jimmy Carter  
Doyle Brunson

(Pick the right young[ish] actor)  
Michael Cudlitz  
Sam Richardson (from Veep)

(More politicians)  
Uhuru Kenyatta  
Volodymyr Groysman

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**Author:** ![rucciface](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ba9def/32.png) [@rucciface](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rucciface)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/103 "2016-12-08T16:10:42Z")

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Bill Dana  
Fats Domino  
Monty Hall  
Larry Storch  
Chuck Berry  
Bernard Fox  
Joyce Randolph  
Doris Day  
June Lockhart  
Rose Marie  
Henry Kissinger  
Nita Talbot  
Roy Clark  
alts:  
Bill Daily  
Kaye Ballard  
Pat Carroll

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/104 "2016-12-08T17:20:37Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> From here on, I’m only going to be answering game questions, not “debating about rule changes” stuff.

Fair enough, we’ve already got [this thread to debate rules changes](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=777530) that you started a year ago.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/105 "2016-12-08T18:10:32Z")

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> [@Saint\_Cad](#):
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> Uhuru Kenyatta

No fair picking Star Trek characters.

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**Author:** ![Saint\_Cad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/saint_cad/32/18907_2.png) [@Saint\_Cad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Saint_Cad)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/106 "2016-12-08T21:56:05Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> No fair picking Star Trek characters.

Then I pick Muedzul Lail Tan Kiram as an alternate.

The Sultan of Sulu

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**Author:** ![Clothahump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/51bf81/32.png) [@Clothahump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Clothahump)\
**Post date:** [December 8, 2016, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/107 "2016-12-08T23:25:57Z")

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Here’s my attempt at keeping people alive for another year.

George H. W. Bush  
Barbara Bush  
Lindsay Lohan  
Queen Elizabeth  
Mary Tyler Moore  
Jimmy Carter  
Al Gore  
Angela Lansbury  
Dick Van Dyke  
Tom Selleck  
Judi Dench  
William Shatner  
Charles Osgood

Alternates  
Pope Francis  
Vladimir Putin

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**Author:** ![Andrew\_21](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/bcef8e/32.png) [@Andrew\_21](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andrew_21)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/108 "2016-12-09T01:07:43Z")

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Jake Lamotta (July 10, 1921)  
George H. W. Bush (June 12, 1924)  
Mary Tyler Moore (December 29, 1936)  
Valerie Harper (August 22, 1939)  
John Hurt (January 22, 1940)  
Mel Stottlemyre (November 13, 1941)  
Jimmy “Superfly” Snuka (May 18, 1943)  
Rod Carew (October 1, 1945)  
Craig Sager (June 29, 1951)  
Malcolm Young (January 6, 1953)  
Vivian Campbell (August 25, 1962)  
Gord Downie (February 6, 1964)  
Joost van der Westhuizen (February 20, 1971)

Alternates:

Dick Van Dyke (December 13, 1925)  
Ruth Bader Ginsburg (March 15, 1933)  
Helmut Kohl (April 3, 1930)

Jake Lamotta  
George H. W. Bush  
Mary Tyler Moore  
Valerie Harper  
John Hurt  
Mel Stottlemyre  
Jimmy “Superfly” Snuka  
Rod Carew  
Craig Sager  
Malcolm Young  
Vivian Campbell  
Gord Downie  
Joost van der Westhuizen  
Alternates:

Dick Van Dyke  
Ruth Bader Ginsburg  
Helmut Kohl

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 4:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/109 "2016-12-09T04:09:10Z")

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duplicate thread, sorry

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/110 "2016-12-09T04:10:49Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> Fair enough, we’ve already got [this thread to debate rules changes](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=777530) that you started a year ago.

I just went and read that thread, **RFirefly**. Thanks for calling it to my attention. It seems to me that this game has now changed from our game to the death master’s game, and that makes me sad.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 11:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/111 "2016-12-09T11:18:18Z")

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Please play though, keep it alive.

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**Author:** ![Lsura](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7993a0/32.png) [@Lsura](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lsura)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 12:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/112 "2016-12-09T12:34:08Z")

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Here we go:

Shannon Doherty  
Michael Douglas  
Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh  
Matt Lauer  
Pope Emeritus Benedict XVI  
Michael J. Fox  
Gord Downie  
Donald Trump  
Julie Andrews  
George HW Bush  
Newt Gingrich  
Chris Christie  
Rudy Giuliani

Alternates:  
John Williams  
Matt Lauer  
Queen Elizabeth II

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**Author:** ![critter42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@critter42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/critter42)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 12:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/113 "2016-12-09T12:47:32Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> I’m not going to be counting any invalid picks toward the “quantity, not quality” award.
> 
> This means I will not count anyone over 100 or exactly 100 towards that award, on anyone’s list.
> 
> I put it in the rules in the OP.
> 
> Valid picks cannot already be 100.

So, in reality, this rules out anyone 99 also since they will be turning 100 next year.

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**Author:** ![critter42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/7ba0ec/32.png) [@critter42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/critter42)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 12:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/114 "2016-12-09T12:49:11Z")

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> [@Idle\_Thoughts](#):
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> It’s not a change, that’s how the ranking system originally was.
> 
> Anyway, with all due respect, not every host is going to do it exactly like every other one. I’m a new guy, so I wanted to bring in a few new, small changes. I certainly don’t see it as anything huge or game breaking, but if you do…I’m sorry for it.
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> I’m not going to sit in here and argue the case with people, though, so this is my last post on the subject. From here on, I’m only going to be answering game questions, not “debating about rule changes” stuff.

So chaging stuff just to change stuff and managing to alienate a bunch of people in the process. You have sure started this off on the right foot! Awesome.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 2:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/115 "2016-12-09T14:54:40Z")

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> [@kayT](#):
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> It seems to me that this game has now changed from our game to the death master’s game, and that makes me sad.

> [@critter42](#):
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> So chaging stuff just to change stuff and managing to alienate a bunch of people in the process. You have sure started this off on the right foot! Awesome.

As the person who wrote the original rules off the cuff, I’ll go on record to say I have no problem with people changing the rules in general or with Idle Thoughts’ changes in particular. I changed the rules several times when I ran the Deathpool threads. Other people changed the rules when they ran them.

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**Author:** ![kayT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayt/32/3633_2.png) [@kayT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayT)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/116 "2016-12-09T17:04:26Z")

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For me it’s maybe more the attitude of “no discussion” than the actual changes. This used to be a fun game. Now it’s more like a dictatorship. Problem with that is, there’s too much of that in real life; I don’t like it here too.

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**Author:** ![Baker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bb73d2/32.png) [@Baker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baker)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 6:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/117 "2016-12-09T18:04:11Z")

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We can still have fun though. I’m playing, and have a completely new list this year, nobody I’ve ever played. Now that’s different!😃

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 6:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/118 "2016-12-09T18:23:33Z")

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> [@Baker](#):
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> We can still have fun though. I’m playing, and have a completely new list this year, nobody I’ve ever played. Now that’s different!😃

Amen. The game is essentially the same, and I am sure someone could submit a list of all 100-year-old individuals and track their progress… it’s not like there is any real victory in victory.

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**Author:** ![Spiff](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/spiff/32/9852_2.png) [@Spiff](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Spiff)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 6:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/119 "2016-12-09T18:55:13Z")

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Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi  
Glen Campbell  
Tommy Chong  
Mary Tyler Moore  
Robert Mugabe  
Burt Reynolds  
Wilford Brimley  
Henry Kissinger  
Andy Dick  
Shane MacGowan  
Keith Richards  
Paul Gascoigne  
Britney Spears

Alternates:  
Michael Schumacher  
Valerie Harper

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**Author:** ![Borborygmi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/borborygmi/32/217_2.png) [@Borborygmi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Borborygmi)\
**Post date:** [December 9, 2016, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/120 "2016-12-09T19:14:56Z")

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Many thanks to Baker for her years of service and thanks to Idle Thoughts for continuing it this year.

1. [Valerie Harper](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valerie_Harper), b. August 22, 1939. Actress.
2. [John Hurt](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hurt), b. January 22, 1940. Actor.
3. [Pelé](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pel%C3%A9), b. October 23, 1940. Soccer player.
4. [Roy Horn](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roy_Horn), b. October 3, 1944. Magician.
5. [Jimmy McMillan](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_McMillan), b. December 1, 1946. Political activist.
6. [Teri Garr](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teri_Garr), b. December 11, 1947. Actress.
7. [Linda Tripp](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Tripp), b. November 24, 1949. Civil servant.
8. [Ayman al-Zawahiri](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayman_al-Zawahiri), b. June 19, 1951. Emir.
9. [Ron Jeremy](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Jeremy), b. March 12, 1953. Actor.
10. [Charles Carreon](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Carreon), b. January 1, 1956. Attorney.
11. [Lenny Dykstra](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenny_Dykstra), b. February 10, 1963. Baseball player.
12. [Artie Lange](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artie_Lange), b. October 11, 1967. Comedian.
13. [Martin Shkreli](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Shkreli), b. March 17, 1983. Pharmaceutical executive.

I really wanted to include “parkour stuntman” Oleg ‘Cricket’ Sherstyachenko, but I figure if I can’t find his birthdate anywhere on the Internet then I guess he isn’t enough of a celebrity even with our loose rules. Guy clearly has a deathwish, though.

Alt1. [Chris Berman](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Berman), b. May 10, 1955. Sportscaster.  
Alt2. [Bernard Madoff](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernie_madoff), b. April 29, 1938. Former investment advisor.  
Alt3. [John Edwards](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_edwards), b. June 10, 1953. Politician.

Plain text version:

Valerie Harper  
John Hurt  
Pelé  
Roy Horn  
Jimmy McMillan  
Teri Garr  
Linda Tripp  
Ayman al-Zawahiri  
Ron Jeremy  
Charles Carreon  
Artie Lange  
Lenny Dykstra  
Martin Shkreli

Chris Berman  
Bernard Madoff  
John Edwards

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