# Celebrity Death Pool 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 1, 2016, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517 "2016-12-01T07:00:03Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 71

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**Author:** ![swampbear](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/swampbear/32/467_2.png) [@swampbear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/swampbear)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1401 "2017-06-30T21:40:23Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is still probably, [kinda sorta](http://www.deccanchronicle.com/world/middle-east/300617/iran-says-isis-leader-abu-bakr-al-baghdadi-definitely-dead.html), mostly dead.

Yes, but is he really most sincerely dead?

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**Author:** ![Queen\_Anne\_s\_Lace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Queen\_Anne\_s\_Lace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Queen_Anne_s_Lace)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1402 "2017-06-30T21:47:13Z")

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> [@swampbear](#):
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> Yes, but is he really most sincerely dead?

You’ll have to ask the Mayor of Munchkinland.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [June 30, 2017, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1403 "2017-06-30T22:02:09Z")

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> [@swampbear](#):
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> Yes, but is he really most sincerely dead?

I dunno.  
Does anyone have Iranian Supreme Leader Ayatollah Ali Khamenei’s cell number?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1404 "2017-07-01T13:23:53Z")

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> [@phungi](#):
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> have we ever had a Death Pool scenario like this before?

I dunno, 2013 was the first year I even kibitzed.

The question is, if al-Baghdadi gives no evidence of being alive during the remainder of the year, ISIS doesn’t admit to his being dead, and no body turns up, would any other evidence suffice? For instance, if the CIA or DoD says they’re certain he’s dead, would that suffice? How about British intelligence saying that? (Sorry Iran, but whatever makes the cut, you’re well below it.)

Could get interesting.

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**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 1:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1405 "2017-07-01T13:24:14Z")

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UK film critic [Barry Norman](http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40468411), who had a TV series called _Film (insert year here)_\* for ages has died aged 83.

\*_since taken over by Jonathan Ross and then Claudia Winkleman_

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1406 "2017-07-01T13:57:57Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> The question is, if al-Baghdadi gives no evidence of being alive during the remainder of the year,

How many of us swiped the pick as I did? If we all have him, we can forget about it.  
:dubious:

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1407 "2017-07-01T14:39:12Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> How many of us swiped the pick as I did? If we all have him, we can forget about it.  
> :dubious:

Well, we don’t all have him - only 19 of us do, and it looks like you and I are the only ones at 😉 or near the top of the leader board who have him. So his death would be a nice leg up for us relative to the rest of the field.

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1408 "2017-07-01T14:40:22Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> How many of us swiped the pick as I did? If we all have him, we can forget about it.  
> :dubious:

19 out of 160 players have al-Baghdadi…

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1409 "2017-07-01T15:57:50Z")

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> [@phungi](#):
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> 19 out of 160 players have al-Baghdadi…

So much for that idea.  
:smack:

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 3:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1410 "2017-07-01T15:59:09Z")

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RT, Phungi, do you guys keep a database of player’s picks?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 6:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1411 "2017-07-01T18:41:37Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> RT, Phungi, do you guys keep a database of player’s picks?

Our excellent Death Shroom has a spreadsheet of all the picks, which he’s frequently mentioned his willingness to share. I took him up on this awhile back, so I’ve got a copy.

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1412 "2017-07-01T19:03:55Z")

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> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> RT, Phungi, do you guys keep a database of player’s picks?

yes, an Excel spreadsheet/scorekeeper i have cultivated over the years. PM me with an email address and I will be happy to share. I keep it in a shared DropBox folder

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1413 "2017-07-01T21:17:39Z")

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Patrick Macnee  
February 6, 1922 - June 25, 2015  
Rancho Mirage, California | Age 93  
Star of the 1960s TV series “The Avengers”

[http://www.tributes.com/obituary/show/Patrick-Macnee-102607756](http://www.tributes.com/obituary/show/Patrick-Macnee-102607756)

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**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 9:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1414 "2017-07-01T21:47:15Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Patrick Macnee  
> February 6, 1922 - June 25, 2015  
> Rancho Mirage, California | Age 93  
> Star of the 1960s TV series “The Avengers”
> 
> [Tributes.com](http://www.tributes.com/obituary/show/Patrick-Macnee-102607756)

He died 2 years ago…

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**Author:** ![bonzer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/45deac/32.png) [@bonzer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bonzer)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1415 "2017-07-01T21:55:45Z")

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> [@GuanoLad](#):
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> UK film critic [Barry Norman](http://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-40468411), who had a TV series called _Film (insert year here)_\* for ages has died aged 83.
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> \*_since taken over by Jonathan Ross and then Claudia Winkleman_

Well worth noting as effectively the British equivalent of Roger Ebert.

The TV film critic of his generation. And why not.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2017, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1416 "2017-07-01T23:32:35Z")

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> [@Superdude](#):
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> He died 2 years ago…

Damn “in-the-old-news” popups. Course, I could have actually read more carefully:smack: In my defense, seeing the name made me think of Diana Rigg from the Avengers and I fogged over.

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**Author:** ![eschereal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eschereal/32/18939_2.png) [@eschereal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eschereal)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2017, 12:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1417 "2017-07-02T00:06:40Z")

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You only had to look at what you posted, which says, right there up front, that he died in 2015.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2017, 8:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1418 "2017-07-02T20:17:02Z")

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> [@phungi](#):
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> yes, an Excel spreadsheet/scorekeeper i have cultivated over the years. PM me with an email address and I will be happy to share. I keep it in a shared DropBox folder

Thanks.

Something named [“Iraqi News”](http://www.iraqinews.com/) is saying that al-Baghdadi is dead. Does anyone know if they are reliable?

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2017, 8:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1419 "2017-07-02T20:31:47Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Patrick Macnee  
> February 6, 1922 - June 25, 2015  
> Rancho Mirage, California | Age 93  
> Star of the 1960s TV series “The Avengers”
> 
> [Tributes.com](http://www.tributes.com/obituary/show/Patrick-Macnee-102607756)

> [@Superdude](#):
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> He died 2 years ago…

Yeah, and some of us are still bummed about it. 😉

> [@smithsb](#):
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> In my defense, seeing the name made me think of Diana Rigg from the Avengers and I fogged over.

I can relate to that! Damn, she was something.

> [@carnivorousplant](#):
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> Something named [“Iraqi News”](http://www.iraqinews.com/) is saying that al-Baghdadi is dead. Does anyone know if they are reliable?

Almost certainly more reliable than World Net Daily. 😃

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [July 2, 2017, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2017/773517/1420 "2017-07-02T21:30:44Z")

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Although some of the stories on the site, like “[Islamic State prescribes 50 lashes for bringing up Baghdadi’s death](http://www.iraqinews.com/iraq-war/islamic-state-prescribes-50-lashes-bringing-baghdadis-death/)” and “[Islamic State execute preacher over Baghdadi’s death sermon](http://www.iraqinews.com/iraq-war/islamic-state-execute-preacher-baghdadis-death-sermon/)” paint a picture of an ISIS regime fighting a losing battle to keep a lid on the news - news which would be easy to dispel if al-Baghdadi were alive and in sufficient health to record a 5-second taunt while holding a recent newspaper headline alleging his death.

Still, I’d regard his death as more likely true than false, but not yet certain by any means.

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