# Celebrity Death Pool 2018

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** death-pool\
**Created:** [December 2, 2017, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331 "2017-12-02T13:44:46Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
**Page:** 15

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/281 "2018-01-16T07:05:30Z")

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Edwin Hawkins, Known for the Hit ‘Oh Happy Day,’ Is Dead at 74.

> **[Edwin Hawkins, Known for the Hit ‘Oh Happy Day,’ Is Dead at 74 (Published 2018)](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/15/obituaries/edwin-hawkins-dead-gospel-singer.html)**
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> His catchy song of praise, recorded on a two-track machine and “never intended for commercial purposes,” became a Top 10 hit in 1970.

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**Author:** ![CAMJAY77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5fc32e/32.png) [@CAMJAY77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CAMJAY77)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 12:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/282 "2018-01-16T12:31:03Z")

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[Spanky Manikan](http://news.abs-cbn.com/entertainment/01/14/18/veteran-actor-spanky-manikan-dies-after-battle-with-lung-cancer) Dead at 75/25 points

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/283 "2018-01-16T14:53:37Z")

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In a 3-way tie for the lead with **CAMJAY77** and **Registered at Last**!

A short-lived state of affairs, I’m sure, but while it lasts, all hail the Triumvirate! 😃

(OK, [now](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20718015&postcount=264) we’ve had our third lead change this year. :))

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**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/284 "2018-01-16T15:07:45Z")

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My short reign has come to an end. I was tough but I like to think I was fair.

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/285 "2018-01-16T15:14:09Z")

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“A fair for all, and no fair to anybody.” - Firesign Theatre

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [January 16, 2018, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/286 "2018-01-16T16:15:12Z")

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> [@RTFirefly](#):
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> In a 3-way tie for the lead with **CAMJAY77** and **Registered at Last**!
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> A short-lived state of affairs, I’m sure, but while it lasts, all hail the Triumvirate! 😃
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> (OK, [now](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=20718015&postcount=264) we’ve had our third lead change this year. :))

while the end may be inevitable, [Jessica Falkholt isn’t dead yet](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5269087/Jessica-Falkholt-clings-life-Boxing-Day-crash.html)

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 1:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/287 "2018-01-17T01:17:55Z")

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But Spanky Manikan is, per **CAMJAY77**.

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 1:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/288 "2018-01-17T01:34:08Z")

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> [@phungi](#):
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> while the end may be inevitable, [Jessica Falkholt isn’t dead yet](http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5269087/Jessica-Falkholt-clings-life-Boxing-Day-crash.html)

She is now.  
[http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/jessica-falkholt-dies-days-after-life-support-turned-off/news-story/5b85f717254101f38f1b755767222d43](http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/health/health-problems/jessica-falkholt-dies-days-after-life-support-turned-off/news-story/5b85f717254101f38f1b755767222d43)

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**Author:** ![Bullitt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bullitt/32/5725_2.png) [@Bullitt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bullitt)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/289 "2018-01-17T06:51:48Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Edwin Hawkins, Known for the Hit ‘Oh Happy Day,’ Is Dead at 74.
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> [https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/15/obituaries/edwin-hawkins-dead-gospel-singer.html](https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/15/obituaries/edwin-hawkins-dead-gospel-singer.html)

I love that Gospel song! So uplifting. R.I.P., Edwin Hawkins.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzj3pOdCOqU)

Oh it’s a happy day.

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**Author:** ![smithsb](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smithsb/32/12107_2.png) [@smithsb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smithsb)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/290 "2018-01-17T08:38:35Z")

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Jo Jo White, Celtics great and NBA Hall of Famer, dies at 71.

> **[Celtics great, HOFer Jo Jo White dies at 71](https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22124169/jo-jo-white-boston-celtics-great-basketball-hall-famer-dies-71)**
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> Basketball Hall of Famer Jo Jo White, whose No. 10 jersey was retired by the Celtics, has died at 71.

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**Author:** ![CAMJAY77](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/5fc32e/32.png) [@CAMJAY77](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CAMJAY77)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 9:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/291 "2018-01-17T09:34:37Z")

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> [@smithsb](#):
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> Jo Jo White, Celtics great and NBA Hall of Famer, dies at 71.
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> [Jo Jo White, Boston Celtics great and Basketball Hall of Famer, dies at 71 - ESPN](http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22124169/jo-jo-white-boston-celtics-great-basketball-hall-famer-dies-71)

Wow, didn’t know he was in Hall Of Fame. Remember watching him play and knew he was good. Never thought he was great.

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/292 "2018-01-17T14:29:42Z")

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Significant movement on day 17:

Spanky Manikan: 25 points for **RTFirefly, CAMJAY77 Registered at Last**  
Jessica Falkholt: 71 points for **Team Dirt, basset hound, GIGObuster**

```auto

Rank	Player Score	Picks(Unique)
1	basset hound	71	1
1	GIGObuster	71	1
1	Team Dirt	71	1
4	CAMJAY77	25	1
4	Registered@Last	25	1
4	RTFirefly	25	1
7	Loach 20	1(1)
8	ataraxy22	14	1(1)
9	The Vorlon	13	1(1)
10	Rico 10	1(1)

```

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**Author:** ![RTFirefly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/c77e96/32.png) [@RTFirefly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RTFirefly)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/293 "2018-01-17T18:20:43Z")

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That moment of sharing the lead was even more brief than I anticipated!

Congrats to the Second Triumvirate on the occasion of our fourth lead change of the year!

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**Author:** ![It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/it_s_not_rocket_surgery/32/312_2.png) [@It\_s\_Not\_Rocket\_Surgery](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/It_s_Not_Rocket_Surgery)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 7:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/294 "2018-01-17T19:37:42Z")

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Washington State QB [Tyler Hilinski](https://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/1/16/16899872/tyler-hilinski-washington-state-qb-passes-away)is a suicide victim at 21.

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/295 "2018-01-17T20:10:25Z")

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Jessica Falkholt - was she a celebrity, or was she only famous due to the accident that caused her fatal injuries?

The Wikipedia article has been marked for deletion and is presently being debated. The point has been made that there are almost no articles in the media that mention her prior to the accident. She appeared in 16 episodes of a soap opera and had an upcoming movie, but that hasn’t been released yet. She doesn’t appear to have notability that predates the crash.

I had never heard of her prior to the accident that killed her family, but I’m fairly isolated from what’s happening in the world of Australian soap operas and probably couldn’t identify the current stars of that show either, so I hadn’t weighed in before. Just from a brief search I can see no indications that she was a celebrity prior to being involved in that car accident. It grabbed the headlines because it was a case of an entire family being wiped out the day after Christmas by a known drug user with a history of driving disqualifications and, oh look, the daughter’s connected with a TV show.

Thoughts?

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**Author:** ![AppallingGael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/b9bd4f/32.png) [@AppallingGael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AppallingGael)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/296 "2018-01-17T20:27:21Z")

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> [@CAMJAY77](#):
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> Wow, didn’t know he was in Hall Of Fame. Remember watching him play and knew he was good. Never thought he was great.

He made the final of the NBA’s “One-on-One” tournament (games aired at halftime of real game broadcasts) in 1972. Lost to Bob Lanier of the size 22s.

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**Author:** ![phungi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/phungi/32/395_2.png) [@phungi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phungi)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 8:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/297 "2018-01-17T20:58:26Z")

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> [@Eliahna](#):
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> Jessica Falkholt - was she a celebrity, or was she only famous due to the accident that caused her fatal injuries?
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> The Wikipedia article has been marked for deletion and is presently being debated. The point has been made that there are almost no articles in the media that mention her prior to the accident. She appeared in 16 episodes of a soap opera and had an upcoming movie, but that hasn’t been released yet. She doesn’t appear to have notability that predates the crash.
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> I had never heard of her prior to the accident that killed her family, but I’m fairly isolated from what’s happening in the world of Australian soap operas and probably couldn’t identify the current stars of that show either, so I hadn’t weighed in before. Just from a brief search I can see no indications that she was a celebrity prior to being involved in that car accident. It grabbed the headlines because it was a case of an entire family being wiped out the day after Christmas by a known drug user with a history of driving disqualifications and, oh look, the daughter’s connected with a TV show.
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> Thoughts?

[She was an actress](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5051288/), with a following in Australia

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**Author:** ![Cazzle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cazzle/32/75_2.png) [@Cazzle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cazzle)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/298 "2018-01-17T21:24:39Z")

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> [@phungi](#):
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> [She was an actress](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5051288/), with a following in Australia

She was an actor who appeared in 16 episodes of a soap opera that has more than 6,800 episodes to date. She didn’t have a Wikipedia article prior to her death. Wikipedians are currently debating if she fulfilled the criteria for notability or if the article should be deleted.

Is an actor automatically a celebrity if they appear on TV? Would appearing in 16 episodes of, say, The Bold and The Beautiful qualify someone to be called a celebrity? As far as I can tell, Jessica Falkholt was not well known here in Australia until the car accident that caused her death.

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**Author:** ![Sternvogel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bc79bd/32.png) [@Sternvogel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sternvogel)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/299 "2018-01-17T21:25:00Z")

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[Doug Harvey](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doug_Harvey_(umpire)), who served as a National League umpire from 1962 to '92 and was inducted into the Baseball Hall of Fame in 2010, has died at the age of 87. Harvey’s major league debut was the first regular-season game at Dodger Stadium, and he was behind the plate when LA’s Kirk Gibson hit a walk-off homer in the first game of the 1988 World Series.

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**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\
**Post date:** [January 17, 2018, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-death-pool-2018/803331/300 "2018-01-17T21:37:19Z")

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> [@phungi](#):
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> [She was an actress](http://www.imdb.com/name/nm5051288/), with a following in Australia

I would say she counts.

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