# Celebrity douchebag, um, chef Guy Fieri's Lambo Stolen

**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091
**Category:** Cafe Society
**Created:** [March 9, 2011, 9:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091 "2011-03-09T21:07:27Z")
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### Author: ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 1:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/21 "2011-03-10T13:44:35Z")

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> [@TravisFromOR](#):
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> I’m a bit perplexed by the term: Lamborghini sports car. Does Lamborghini make economy sub-compacts or minivans, and I’m just unaware of this fact?

[QUOTE=ascenray]  
The phrase “lambourghini sports car”'doesn’t necessarily imply that there are Lambourghinis that are not sports cars. In this case “Lambourghini” is a modifier specifying the type of sports car.  
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[QUOTE=woodstockbirdybird]  
In that case, isn’t “sports car” still unnecessary?  
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[QUOTE=Lord Mondegreen]  
course in this case it’s probably unnecessary because I don’t think many people hearing about a stolen Lambo would ask, “Hmm, I wonder if that was a sports car, a truck or a tractor?”  
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This thread starts out about douchebags and sports cars and ends up focusing on the appropriateness of using a [synedoche](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche)based on the degree of crossover popularity/brand recognition for Lamborghini.

I love the 'Dope.

😉

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### Author: ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/22 "2011-03-10T14:13:25Z")

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> [@Lord\_Mondegreen](#):
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> Not if you’ve seen the two posts which show that Lamborghini make things other than sports cars. Of course in this case it’s probably unnecessary because I don’t think many people hearing about a stolen Lambo would ask, “Hmm, I wonder if that was a sports car, a truck or a tractor?” 🙂

It depends on your intent and your audience. It’s never _wrong_ to say Lambourghini sports car in the same way that it is never wrong to pair any brand name with a generic noun – Apple computer, Lays chips, Lego blocks.

Depending on context, the tone of your writing, and the audience, it might be okay to just use the brand name, but it’s never mandatory to do it that way. (Indeed, trademark owners would wish you never used the brand name by itself, but that’s another issue.)

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### Author: ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/23 "2011-03-10T14:34:26Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> This thread starts out about douchebags and sports cars and ends up focusing on the appropriateness of using a [synedoche](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synecdoche)based on the degree of crossover popularity/brand recognition for Lamborghini.
> 
> I love the 'Dope.
> 
> 😉

This is a sensitive topic for me, because I once had an idiot editor who would never let me use the phrase “pickup truck.” She would mark the “truck” out as redundant. Since then I have refused to use the term “pickup” as a noun meaning “pickup truck.”

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### Author: ![Johnny\_L.A](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/johnny_l.a/32/1084_2.png) [@Johnny\_L.A](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Johnny_L.A)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 2:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/24 "2011-03-10T14:59:02Z")

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I have two pickups I’m not using. I’d put them on eBay, but I’d probably only get $10 for them.

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### Author: ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/25 "2011-03-10T15:05:07Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> This is a sensitive topic for me, because I once had an idiot editor who would never let me use the phrase “pickup truck.” She would mark the “truck” out as redundant. Since then I have refused to use the term “pickup” as a noun meaning “pickup truck.”

Well - if you saw the phrase “…stolen from celebrity douchebag/chef Guy Fieri…” would you:

- Cross out the word “celebrity”?
- Cross out the words “douchebag/chef” because they are redundant with the name Guy Fieri?
- Cross out the name Guy Fieri because “celebrity douchebag/chef” is synonymous with his name?

These are tough editing questions!!

😉

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### Author: ![Erdosain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/erdosain/32/7284_2.png) [@Erdosain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Erdosain)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/26 "2011-03-10T15:14:56Z")

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When I heard about this, I immediately thought, “Oh, Guy, you should be saving your money.” That “Minute to Win It” money isn’t going to be around for more than a minute, and I’m pretty sure the Food Network pays him in burgers.

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#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/27 "2011-03-10T15:36:49Z")

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Gosh, I thought Guy’s ride was an old Chevy Camero convertible.

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### Author: ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 3:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/28 "2011-03-10T15:43:27Z")

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> [@Erdosain](#):
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> When I heard about this, I immediately thought, “Oh, Guy, you should be saving your money.” That “Minute to Win It” money isn’t going to be around for more than a minute, and I’m pretty sure the Food Network pays him in burgers.

Well, if he eats at the diners, drive ins and dives regularly, I think it’s highly questionable whether he’ll make it to old age anyway.

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### Author: ![Ferret\_Herder](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e47774/32.png) [@Ferret\_Herder](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ferret_Herder)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/29 "2011-03-10T15:55:12Z")

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> [@WordMan](#):
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> Well - if you saw the phrase “…stolen from celebrity douchebag/chef Guy Fieri…” would you:
> 
> - Cross out the word “celebrity”?
> - Cross out the words “douchebag/chef” because they are redundant with the name Guy Fieri?
> - Cross out the name Guy Fieri because “celebrity douchebag/chef” is synonymous with his name?
> 
> These are tough editing questions!!
> 
> 😉

I’d cross out “chef” since for him that seems to be a minor pursuit, compared to the “celebrity” and “douchebag” occupations. 😛

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#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 4:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/30 "2011-03-10T16:22:34Z")

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I’m still at a loss as to what defines a douchebag. Fieri is barely on my radar - sure he looks a little weird, but what it is that puts him over into douchebag territory?

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### Author: ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/31 "2011-03-10T16:29:21Z")

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Let’s start with the way he pronounces his (fake) name and then move on to his asscliwn personality and then talk about his Anime hairdo. Good start?

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#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 4:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/32 "2011-03-10T16:36:06Z")

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Pretty low bar for being a douchebag. He tries to stand out in a medium where standing out (good or bad) is called for. Heck, personality wise I think Rachel Ray is significantly more annoying, but I hardly think she’s a douchebag. It isn’t like he’s Paris Hilton or Snooki bad.

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### Author: ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/33 "2011-03-10T17:03:44Z")

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Rachel Ray is Escoffier compared to Fieri.

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### Author: ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/34 "2011-03-10T17:07:02Z")

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Didn’t Anthony Bourdain once call this guy the Poochie of the culinary world?

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### Author: ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/35 "2011-03-10T17:08:43Z")

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Perfect! Bourdain has a way with words.

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#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 5:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/36 "2011-03-10T17:22:58Z")

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> [@Spud](#):
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> And trucks [http://autosmobilewolrd.blogspot.com/2010/11/lamborghini-truck-old-new-2010.html](http://autosmobilewolrd.blogspot.com/2010/11/lamborghini-truck-old-new-2010.html)

This seems more likely to me. I have a hard time picturing Fieri driving anything you couldn’t attach TruckNuts to.

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> Let’s start with the way he pronounces his (fake) name and then move on to his asscliwn personality and then talk about his Anime hairdo. Good start?

His family’s original name is Fieri, it was change to Ferry when his grandfather immigrated to the US.

As I understand it, in Italian, the"r" is rolled but it sounds like a “d” if you don’t do it right.

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#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/38 "2011-03-10T17:30:37Z")

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I once saw a Food Network holiday special that featured Fieri at some Disney park with his family. I couldn’t believe how miserable his family looked.

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#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/39 "2011-03-10T17:36:54Z")

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> [@runner pat](#):
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> As I understand it, in Italian, the"r" is rolled but it sounds like a “d” if you don’t do it right.

Exactly. He doesn’t do it right.

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### Author: ![WordMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/e8c25b/32.png) [@WordMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WordMan)
#### Post date: [March 10, 2011, 5:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/celebrity-douchebag-um-chef-guy-fieris-lambo-stolen/574091/40 "2011-03-10T17:40:15Z")

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> [@acsenray](#):
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> Let’s start with the way he pronounces his (fake) name and then move on to his asscliwn personality and then talk about his Anime hairdo. Good start?

A douchebag is the kinda guy who tries to put out that he’s “authentic” - the kinda guy who goes in for the thumb-lock manhug, complete with a slap on the back and a whispered “we’re solid, man,” when everything about radiates me, me, ME.

I _hate_ that guy.

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