# Cenk Uygur running for Pres
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [October 22, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927 "2023-10-22T17:08:45Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
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### Author:  [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2023, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/201 "2023-10-24T23:24:34Z")
Hormone replacement therapy, mental illness treatments, birth control, and soo much more!
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### Author:  [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/202 "2023-10-24T23:40:48Z")
True freedom means binding the government’s hands on prescription med prices and not allowing them to negotiate.
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2023, 11:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/203 "2023-10-24T23:42:33Z")
Even when the government is the one _paying_ for prescription medicines, you would not want the government to negotiate prices? What would you have them do; just pay whatever Big Pharma decides to charge?
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### Author:  [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2023, 11:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/204 "2023-10-24T23:44:24Z")
Is this one of the most egregious whooshes?
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2023, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/205 "2023-10-24T23:46:08Z")
No, I seriously have no idea what you mean by saying what you did.
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### Author:  [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2023, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/206 "2023-10-24T23:47:48Z")
I think Mijin meant to put a smiley face after that. Subtlety is easy to miss.
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### Author:  [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)
#### Post date: [October 24, 2023, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/207 "2023-10-24T23:51:54Z")
Ah, okay. I thought they were _advocating_ that idea.
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### Author:  [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2023, 12:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/208 "2023-10-25T00:05:49Z")
> [@Hatchie](#):
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> He often comes off like a frat boy on his show when talking about women. Maybe he tries to mitigate some of his more objectionable remarks by saying “it’s a joke! Come on! We’re just having fun here”, but I dislike that aspect of the TYT bull sessions (ladies invited, and Ana and the other regulars laugh it off but it’s pretty cringe worthy) and if this bothers anyone I can’t say you’re wrong.
As I noted upthread, based on cites in Wikipedia, he has a well-established history of making sexist comments (not just on his show), as well as speaking in defense of men who engage in sexual harassment of women.
The fact that he keeps saying things like that, and then tries to defuse it with “it’s a joke” means, to me, that he really doesn’t get it. The fact that a public figure, and a putative candidate for the presidency, is a serial harasser not only bothers **me** , but it should bother **anyone** who cares about other human beings.
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### Author:  [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2023, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/209 "2023-10-25T00:10:01Z")
Can’t imagine why posters aren’t more upbeat about a guy who’s virtually unknown except for a badly failed Congressional primary run and offending women and adherents of conservative religious denominations with offensive comments, plus is ineligible to hold the office he’s now running for.
Just the fresh voice we’re all seeking!
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### Author:  [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2023, 12:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/210 "2023-10-25T00:10:47Z")
Noted.
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### Author:  [@Ann\_Hedonia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Hedonia)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2023, 12:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/211 "2023-10-25T00:15:37Z")
Yeah, I think Uygur would have a problem with women……it’s the America’s Ex-Husband problem……he’s the kind of guy that reminds women of a jerkish ex-boyfriend or husband.
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### Author:  [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2023, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/212 "2023-10-25T00:16:21Z")
Sumarizing the thread:
He can’t run:
> [@JRDelirious](#):
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> Yes, if the Constitution is _explicit_ and categorical about it, SCOTUS will say, dude, it says so right there.
Even if he could run, he can’t win:
> [@Ann\_Hedonia](#):
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> This Uygur guy couldn’t even break 10% when he ran for Congress. That’s not a good sign.
Even if he could win, he shouldnh’t win.
> [@BlankSlate](#):
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> Who is Uygur? Some guy with a podcast? I would no more support him than I would Joe Rogan. You want to be the top politician in the land? Get a job in politics. Prove yourself.
Seriously what is it that makes people think that the presidency is an entry level job? Some sort of Dunning Kruger effect that since they don’t understand how the presidency works they assume that anyone can do it? Uygur seems relatively savy regarding policy, but doesn’t show any evidence that he can run a campaign, rally a country, or negotiate a consensus. I want somebody who has been in the trenches of politics and seen how its done, and shown he can do it too, not some fly by night who thinks he can be 5 star general since he won the his gaming club’s risk tournament.
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### Author:  [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2023, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/213 "2023-10-25T00:29:51Z")
You forgot the option that he thoroughly expects not to win. On the issue of whether he expects to overcome the not native born issue, he first said it was a toss-up, then changed that to he can do it if Elon and Arnold join his crusade (not to become President, just to get the Supremes (the “not-Diana Ross-and” ones) to rule in his favor. He said this in a loud voice, how could it not give us all hope?
His reason for initiating a campaign he expects not to win is all there in… Oh right, nobody wants to spend an hour listening to an interview. Lucky for me.
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### Author:  [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2023, 12:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/214 "2023-10-25T00:32:28Z")
> [@Mijin](#):
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> So you implicitly seem to be asserting here, that any effort to find common ground with Republicans means someone is not a “true” progressive. That’s bananas.
Read what he said: “Stop bickering about social issues” means to stop fighting for trans rights, gay rights, women’s rights, minority rights… really, any rights beyond the rights of MAGAs to have it all their own way, just to “stick it to the man” in some idiotic fashion, as if his own rights wouldn’t be on the chopping block, too. It’s almost as if he thinks MAGAs will view him as White enough to _not_ get the wall.
And, no, that doesn’t make him a Progressive. “Agreeing to disagree” in a way that allows human rights to regress isn’t what a Progressive does.
> [@Mijin](#):
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> Brilliant, so now we cannot even push back against corporate corruption and the corporate-oriented US political system without being accused of being anti-semite.
When someone has a history of genocide denial and has named their show after a group that committed a genocide the assumption of good faith is gone.
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### Author:  [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2023, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/215 "2023-10-25T00:33:09Z")
Thoroughly noted.
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### Author:  [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2023, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/216 "2023-10-25T00:39:23Z")
> [@Derleth](#):
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> Read what he said: “Stop bickering about social issues” means to stop fighting for trans rights, gay rights, women’s rights, minority rights… really, any rights beyond the rights of MAGAs to have it all their own way
You took “stop bickering about social issues”, which in modern america are largely manufactured culture wars on the right to mean…give the right completely what they want and eliminate civil rights.
Disingenumuch?
> [@Derleth](#):
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> When someone has a history of genocide denial and has named their show after a group that committed a genocide the assumption of good faith is gone.
How is that a response to what you just quoted?
I’m saying that it should be possible to criticize corporate America, and the legalized bribe system of US politics, without being accused of being an anti-semite. Agree?
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### Author:  [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2023, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/217 "2023-10-25T00:44:52Z")
> [@Hatchie](#):
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> His reason for initiating a campaign he expects not to win is all there in… Oh right, nobody wants to spend an hour listening to an interview. Lucky for me.
The fact that your _only_ answer to “why should we pay attention to him” and “why is he running” is “the only way you can ‘get it’ is to listen to an hour-long interview with him” is tiresome. Surely there must be some other website, some article, _something_ that one could read – in substantially less than an hour – to understand his motivations and platform, beyond “it’s not fair that naturalized citizens can’t be president” and “big money donors have too much power.”
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### Author:  [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2023, 12:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/218 "2023-10-25T00:49:32Z")
I kind of did explain it in post #1. Read that.
Yes, I can be tiresome.
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### Author:  [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2023, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/219 "2023-10-25T00:58:49Z")
> [@Mijin](#):
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> You took “stop bickering about social issues”, which in modern america are largely manufactured culture wars on the right to mean…give the right completely what they want and eliminate civil rights.
> Disingenumuch?
That’s exactly how I took it, and I genuinely don’t see a different interpretation. Yes, sure, bullshit like what bathrooms trans people use in public is manufactured by right wing demagogues. So? That doesn’t make it any less dangerous. Dismissing people standing up for their civil rights as “bickering” demonstrates that the speaker does not, in fact, value those rights very highly, or at least, feels that those rights should be sacrificed in pursuit of the speaker’s own preferred political issues.
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### Author:  [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)
#### Post date: [October 25, 2023, 12:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/220 "2023-10-25T00:59:49Z")
> [@Miller](#):
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> Dismissing people standing up for their civil rights as “bickering” demonstrates that the speaker does not, in fact, value those rights very highly, or at least, feels that those rights should be sacrificed in pursuit of the speaker’s own preferred political issues.
Or some status quo that embodies an acceptable social situation regarding political issues, plus “peace and quiet.”
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