# Cenk Uygur running for Pres
**URL:** https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927
**Category:** Politics & Elections
**Created:** [October 22, 2023, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927 "2023-10-22T17:08:45Z")
**Posts on this page:** 20
**Page:** 29
### Author:  [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2023, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/561 "2023-12-23T21:20:05Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> So, I’m wondering how Cenk is supposed to be “on” a ballot that hasn’t been finalized yet. Seems like it’s just an announcement that the candidacy application had been verified as filed, i.e. ‘accepted as filed’, not necessarily ‘accepted as qualified to hold office’
Much as what happened in Arkansas a few weeks back.
> [@Hatchie](#):
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> Right on Vermont! He got his big toe in the door - hooray for democracy.
Not really. Being on the ballot in a state absolutely does _not_ change the fact that he’s constitutionally ineligible for the office, nor does it signify that any official in the state disagrees with this fact. All it signifies is that the Vermont Secretary of State doesn’t believe that the office has any authority to vet an applicant’s eligibility.
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### Author:  [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2023, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/562 "2023-12-23T21:21:27Z")
Man! Someone take the needle off this broken record!
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### Author:  [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/563 "2023-12-23T21:22:31Z")
This entire thread is a broken record.
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### Author:  [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2023, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/564 "2023-12-23T21:31:03Z")
> [@Hatchie](#):
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> Man! Someone take the needle off this broken record!
Pot, meet kettle.
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### Author:  [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2023, 10:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/565 "2023-12-23T22:06:55Z")
Trump, Trump, Trump
America’s a dump
Stand up and raise your voice,
Send him back to Lidsville
Throw him in the landfill
Vote Uygur, the People’s Choice!
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### Author:  [@ParallelLines](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParallelLines)
#### Post date: [December 23, 2023, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/566 "2023-12-23T22:42:45Z")
> [@Hatchie](#):
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> Vote Uygur, the People’s Choice!
Per everyone’s reporting on his popularity, this assumes facts not in evidence.
I submit the modification
“Vote Uygur, our Hatchie’s Choice!”
Accurate, and with a minimum of snark added. 😃
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### Author:  [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)
#### Post date: [December 28, 2023, 6:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/567 "2023-12-28T06:16:40Z")
And now, Minnesota.
[https://ballot-access.org/2023/12/26/cenk-uygur-will-appear-on-the-minnesota-democratic-presidential-primary/](https://ballot-access.org/2023/12/26/cenk-uygur-will-appear-on-the-minnesota-democratic-presidential-primary/)
Don’tcha know?
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### Author:  [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2024, 10:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/568 "2024-01-02T22:42:04Z")
Cenk sues South Carolina
> **[Turkey-born pundit sues SC Democrats over 'natural-born citizen' primary...](https://www.postandcourier.com/politics/turkey-born-pundit-sues-sc-democrats-over-natural-born-citizen-primary-exclusion/article_c53f45a8-a504-11ee-a096-ffb5651146e4.html)**
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> Cenk Uygur, who was born in Istanbul to Turkish parents but later became a naturalized citizen, argues that the 14th Amendment effectively repealed the constitutional requirement that a citizen be
Bullet points:
He is suing on behalf of himself and two SC voters. See, he does have supporters!
He picked SC because their primary is an important early one. As you recall, it set the failing Biden campaign on a course to victory in 2020.
They kept his $20,000 filing fee. That’s just wrong.
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2024, 10:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/569 "2024-01-02T22:56:13Z")
Does he have a point, at all? He knows what the constitutional requirements are, I naively assume.
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### Author:  [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2024, 11:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/570 "2024-01-02T23:01:45Z")
It’s okay. We all have our own personal blinkers. Some seem to think the Constitution leaves no room for interpretation.
Cenk clearly wants to focus on a particular provision, something to do with “equal protection”. Turns out it might be good if it were clarified regarding some citizens like himself, who feel their status as US citizens is not being respected.
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2024, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/571 "2024-01-02T23:02:20Z")
If he isn’t leading an effort to have the US constitution ammended, then this his actions are jerk off look at me performance. Not even art. Is his goal to be a ridiculed idiot? Well, at least he’s successful at something. The requirements are in the US constitution. Suing states is the move of an idiot.
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### Author:  [@Hatchie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hatchie)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/572 "2024-01-02T23:04:24Z")
U mad bro?
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2024, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/573 "2024-01-02T23:04:37Z")
Ha ha! You made that one up, just now, right? It may catch on.
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### Author:  [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)
#### Post date: [January 2, 2024, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/574 "2024-01-02T23:32:53Z")
> [@Hatchie](#):
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> He is suing on behalf of himself and two SC voters. See, he does have supporters!
Apparently he has both of them.
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### Author:  [@Aspenglow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aspenglow)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2024, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/575 "2024-01-03T00:46:12Z")
Moderating:
> [@Hatchie](#):
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> U mad bro?
Don’t take personal shots in P&E. This can be construed as one. Stick to the issues and refrain from commenting on other posters’ frame of mind.
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### Author:  [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2024, 9:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/576 "2024-01-03T21:31:14Z")
It’s a strangely hyper cynical thread though. Everything cenk does, we’re supposed to take the worst possible interpretation. He’s just doing it for attention! For the money!
Based on what? Why is it so difficult to just take this at face value, at least until there’s evidence to believe otherwise?
And why can’t we just talk about the merits of such a case anyway without including attacks?
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### Author:  [@MyFootsZZZ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MyFootsZZZ)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2024, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/577 "2024-01-03T21:35:08Z")
I consider myself a progressive. If Cenk is our leader, I believe we need a new leader.
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### Author:  [@Great\_Antibob](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Antibob)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2024, 9:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/578 "2024-01-03T21:50:28Z")
> [@Mijin](#):
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> And why can’t we just talk about the merits of such a case anyway without including attacks?
Most of that got covered early, though.
If he’s serious, then his claim is that there is a strong case to ignore a rather large body of established law as laid out in the Constitution - namely, the claim is that a naturalized citizen, born outside the country to non-US citizens, is legally qualified to hold the office of President. And it is based on a rather tortured reading of ‘equal protection’.
Not a push to amend but a claim that the collective understanding and interpretation of our establishing legal document and subsequent amendments and laws is totally wrong. That’s a rather bold claim and such claims require more actual evidence or support than “hey, you’re all just wrong, nominate me and we’ll convince the Supreme Court”. It’s literally on the same rhetorical level as Sovereign Citizens.
Or he’s not serious about the claim and there are ulterior motives.
To be honest, I respect ulterior motives more. It at least shows some respect for reality and a certain level of strategic thought. Sure, that’s cynical but the alternative is to think the man an utter fool, which I doubt is the case.
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### Author:  [@Mijin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mijin)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2024, 10:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/579 "2024-01-03T22:19:48Z")
> [@Great\_Antibob](#):
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> Or he’s not serious about the claim and there are ulterior motives.
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> To be honest, I respect ulterior motives more. It at least shows some respect for reality and a certain level of strategic thought. Sure, that’s cynical but the alternative is to think the man an utter fool, which I doubt is the case.
I don’t agree though. Imagine I run as a Democratic challenger in a super safe Republican seat. Does that make me an “utter fool” or that I have ulterior motives?
Or maybe there’s a third option, that you believe it’s the right thing to do, even if you’re well aware (as Cenk is) of the very slim chance of success.
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### Author:  [@bobot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bobot)
#### Post date: [January 3, 2024, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cenk-uygur-running-for-pres/991927/580 "2024-01-03T22:39:55Z")
Your hypothetical does not exemplify what the good Mr. Uygur is doing.
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