# Censorship is always a solution **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [March 21, 2008, 2:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177 "2008-03-21T02:36:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/61 "2008-03-21T03:39:48Z")
[QUOTE=Transcendence] I am here to defeat and undermine your arguments. [/QUOTE] When are you going to start doing that, then? ---
**Author:** ![Transcendence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Transcendence](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Transcendence)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/62 "2008-03-21T03:39:52Z")
[QUOTE=Revenant Threshold] I am sure you had personal motives for opening it as it related to race. Have you been accused of racism by any chance? [/QUOTE] I hide nothing. Yes, I called a guy nigger in an online game a few times and I got banned for it. Pisses me off because I was called a racist and calling a person nigger doesn’t equate to adherence to the socio-political theory of racism. ---
**Author:** ![atomicbadgerrace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/8e7dd6/32.png) [@atomicbadgerrace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/atomicbadgerrace)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/63 "2008-03-21T03:40:07Z")
[QUOTE=Transcendence] I am not here to explain or educate in anyway. I am here to defeat and undermine your arguments. That’s the point of a debate is it not? [/QUOTE] Resolved: You are an idiot. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/64 "2008-03-21T03:40:22Z")
[QUOTE=Transcendence] I am not here to explain or educate in anyway. I am here to defeat and undermine your arguments. That’s the point of a debate is it not? [/QUOTE] Okay, perhaps I’m still stuck in contemplation of the earlier racism-themed thread. Were there arguments of this board’s membership you were refuting, there? If you’re talking only about _this_ thread and the arguments within, could you be so kind as to succinctly describe an argument that has been given to you and that you have refuted, and how? ---
**Author:** ![fisha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/da6949/32.png) [@fisha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fisha)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/65 "2008-03-21T03:40:23Z")
[QUOTE=Transcendence] Because I have been wrongfully censored and I will not tolerate such a dishonest practice against my scholarship. [/QUOTE] Ah, philosophy majors. Always willing to be erudite about their douchebaggery, yet still smell of their desperation to be noticed by mother. If I give you a quarter, will you dance for me, little monkey boy? ---
**Author:** ![hawksgirl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/ed655f/32.png) [@hawksgirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hawksgirl)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/66 "2008-03-21T03:40:28Z")
[QUOTE=Anomalous Reading] Racism doesn’t exist. It’s a construct. [/QUOTE] Shit. If things don’t exist just because they’re constructs, I’m screwed. I get my sociology degree in three months. ☹ All I know is constructs! ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/67 "2008-03-21T03:40:35Z")
I am a high school graduate. I have worked continually in the corporate world in some capacity for almost 15 years. I was a Certified Nurses Aide for a year, with the associated classes. I have attended several Community College Courses over the last few years, as I slowly work my way towards a degree in History. I read. I read a lot, and have excellent comprehension of what I read. My last IQ (as if it mattered) was taken in high school, and was in the mid 130’s. None of this, of course, matters. And I could be lying about any of it. What counts on the internet (and this board in particular) is not degrees or titles, but ability to construct a coherent thought, and relate it in this particular medium. ---
**Author:** ![OtakuLoki](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ac8455/32.png) [@OtakuLoki](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OtakuLoki)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/68 "2008-03-21T03:41:24Z")
Oddly enough, some of us uneducated types actually use debate to allow thesis and antithesis meet and develop into a stronger synthesis. In which situation, a debate is precisely about exchanging ideas, and educating the opposing sides. Now, in forensics the whole purpose is to defeat and undermine one’s opponent’s arguments. I will contend that forensics has as much to do with debate within the real world, or even academia, as bananas have to do with the geographical distribution of pachyderms. ---
**Author:** ![Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/50afbb/32.png) [@Duck\_Duck\_Goose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Duck_Duck_Goose)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/69 "2008-03-21T03:41:57Z")
Gosh, this thread is the mostest fun ever, and takes my mind off the current hamster troubles wonderfully, doncha know. BTW, I won a Nobel prize for chemistry, my GPA at Harvard was a perfect 6.00, and my IQ is in the low 500s. Not to mention the fact that I built the Mt. Wilson observatory all by myself using nothing but popsicle sticks. Hah! And I can use big words, too. Phlegm! Nova Scotia! Take that, you uneducated Straight Dope hoi polloi… Okay, who censored my post just now? Come on, admit it! You censored my post! And I hadn’t even posted it yet! You evil jackbooted Nazi thug moderators! You hacked into my computer, censored my post–and put all this porn on my computer, too! Stop that! And quit touching my tinfoil. I got it adjusted just right, and I don’t need you fooling with it, it gets it out of whack. ---
**Author:** ![Orual](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/779978/32.png) [@Orual](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Orual)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/70 "2008-03-21T03:43:01Z")
Let me get this straight: this guy admits to being nothing more than a college senior at best. Not a degree to his name. A _philosophy_ major, no less. And he thinks he’s smarter than everyone here, even though he can’t spell the word ‘lambast’. This is the funniest thing I’ve read all week. [Quote=Transcendence] I am not here to explain or educate in anyway. I am here to defeat and undermine your arguments. That’s the point of a debate is it not? [/Quote] Maybe at Hollywood Upstairs Philosophy College it is … ---
**Author:** ![Transcendence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Transcendence](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Transcendence)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/71 "2008-03-21T03:43:28Z")
[QUOTE=Bryan Ekers] Are you basing this on sampling? My own education includes a Bachelor’s in MIS, which covers statistical analysis, and I’m not sure your threads have been around long enough for a majority of the board’s clientele to see them, let alone comment on them. If you are using a sample, what’s your margin of error? [/QUOTE] I am using Pearson r (n = 46, p \< .05) to posit that there is a negative correlation between level of education and membership on these boards. Don’t be silly. ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/72 "2008-03-21T03:43:56Z")
[QUOTE=Transcendence] I hide nothing. Yes, I called a guy nigger in an online game a few times and I got banned for it. Pisses me off because I was called a racist and calling a person nigger doesn’t equate to adherence to the socio-political theory of racism. [/QUOTE] Wait, what? Sociological constructs are what the social group state them to be. If the majority of a social group believe and state that usage of the word “nigger” equates to racism, then it is. At least within that group. Attempting to force your own sociological perspective on them is one of the greatest mistakes a sociologist can make! If you were truly what you claim to be, you should know this. ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/73 "2008-03-21T03:46:05Z")
[QUOTE=Transcendence] Pisses me off because I was called a racist and calling a person nigger doesn’t equate to adherence to the socio-political theory of racism. [/QUOTE] See, now this is just laziness. If you want to troll properly, you can’t just _imitate_ a caricature of a retarded philosophy major, you have to actually _be_ the part. Then, and only then, will you truly break through to the next level of internet retardation. Go in peace. ---
**Author:** ![Punoqllads](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/d2c977/32.png) [@Punoqllads](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Punoqllads)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/74 "2008-03-21T03:46:27Z")
[QUOTE=Transcendence] How about some humor? I am about to be banned so why should I care about proper grammar. I am college educated in philosophy and psychology. My GPA is 3.9. I scored in the 90th percentile on the verbal subsection on the GRE. Your turn. [/QUOTE] I have the technical competence to navigate to the [rules](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/rules.php?) page and have the reading comprehension skills and empathy necessary to comply with them. I suggest that you should start by attempting to comply with the first sentence therein and try to work your way up. ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/75 "2008-03-21T03:47:10Z")
[QUOTE=Transcendence] I hide nothing. Yes, I called a guy nigger in an online game a few times and I got banned for it. Pisses me off because I was called a racist [/QUOTE] lol ---
**Author:** ![Transcendence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Transcendence](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Transcendence)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/76 "2008-03-21T03:47:11Z")
[QUOTE=Tristan] Wait, what? Sociological constructs are what the social group state them to be. If the majority of a social group believe and state that usage of the word “nigger” equates to racism, then it is. At least within that group. Attempting to force your own sociological perspective on them is one of the greatest mistakes a sociologist can make! If you were truly what you claim to be, you should know this. [/QUOTE] I am once again not debating my scholarship at this point. Its fullest form would be beyond your ken. And a shame it was censored too. I appreciate you posting your credentials which I believe to be true. But why are you here? ---
**Author:** ![Q.E.D](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/51bf81/32.png) [@Q.E.D](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Q.E.D)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/77 "2008-03-21T03:49:42Z")
[QUOTE=Transcendence] Its fullest form would be beyond your ken. [/QUOTE] No, it wouldn’t. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/78 "2008-03-21T03:50:10Z")
[QUOTE=Transcendence] I am using Pearson r (n = 46, p \< .05) to posit that there is a negative correlation between level of education and membership on these boards. Don’t be silly. [/QUOTE] Can you share your figures? And how are you addressing selection bias? I would assume the majority of respondents are taking the opportunity to engage in competitive ridicule (i.e. competing with each other in displays of aggression) while a much larger segment of this board’s membership has expressed no opinion at all. At best, I guess, you could offer some theories about the particular respondents, perhaps extrapolating to the membership that primarily populates Great Debates on a Thursday/Friday, allowing for international time zones. ---
**Author:** ![What\_Exit](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/what_exit/32/10652_2.png) [@What\_Exit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/What_Exit)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/79 "2008-03-21T03:50:55Z")
DocMock2k get bored again? There is a familar pattern to the sock being worn by this Op. ---
**Author:** ![Transcendence](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/43a26b/32.png) [@Transcendence](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Transcendence)\ **Post date:** [March 21, 2008, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177/80 "2008-03-21T03:52:07Z")
Hey Urol. You’re right I do not have a college degree to my name yet. Why don’t you post how you emulate my credentials? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177.md?page=3) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorship-is-always-a-solution/442177.md?page=5)