# Censorships Alive @ Sirius Radio Messageboard **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [January 1, 2005, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581 "2005-01-01T20:33:38Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Mr.Roboto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/76d3ee/32.png) [@Mr.Roboto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Roboto)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/1 "2005-01-01T20:33:38Z")
I posted a Topic at a Sirius Satellite Radio Message board that was immediately deleted. Here is the Topic… ``` Sirius Radio excludes the Psychedelic Sixties ``` Sirius Radio Management has made a serious omission in excluding the music of the millions of Baby-Boomers who cherish and continue to listen to Pyschedelic Music. By not providing a Psychedelic Staion, music of this genre is diluted and “crossed-over” into other stations. Programming Directors are excluding thousands of English and North American bands that filled the FM Radio airwaves during the sixties. Webradio Stations are providing Fantastic Psychedelic Channels with playlists filled with diverse representation from private label bands to The Beatles. Millions of British, North American and Global Psychedelic listeners are being ignored by Sirius Satellite Radio. This generation of wealthy music lovers will ultimatelty, “Plug & Pay” whomever provides Psychedelic Music. ``` Censorship is alive and well and now in Outer Space it seems. ``` ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/2 "2005-01-01T21:01:01Z")
Your best bet is to go with the competitor that does offer the style of music you’re looking for. It certainly is sad though. Censorship is a narrow state of mind, so don’t invest in a narrow minded company, if you can help it. ---
**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 9:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/3 "2005-01-01T21:03:36Z")
It seems kind of odd to me that they’d bother deleting the message. Why not just ignore it if they didn’t want to make a new channel? ---
**Author:** ![Berkut](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/a88e57/32.png) [@Berkut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Berkut)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 9:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/4 "2005-01-01T21:04:52Z")
I would be interested to learn the rest of the story. ---
**Author:** ![AuntiePam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f19dbf/32.png) [@AuntiePam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AuntiePam)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/5 "2005-01-01T21:51:36Z")
A friend who has Sirius was telling me about a story on gay penguins that she heard on Sirius’s gay and lesbian channel. Doesn’t seem that they’re all that narrow-minded or censorious (sp?). Maybe the thread deletion was accidental. ? ---
**Author:** ![LifeOnWry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/96bed5/32.png) [@LifeOnWry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LifeOnWry)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/6 "2005-01-01T22:36:36Z")
This is the second rant here against Siriius by the same poster. It’s _possible_ that the OP has been pestering them over there and they’ve simply decided to put him/her on ignore. ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/7 "2005-01-01T22:37:12Z")
Just because they have a Gay and Lesbian channel, doesn’t mean that they’re not intentionally censoring other types of music. More information is needed to make judgement though. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 11:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/8 "2005-01-01T23:04:39Z")
Once again, censorship is when the _government_ decides what can be published and what cannot. When Wal-mart decides not to stock Cosmo, or Sirius deletes certain topics, that is not censorship. Sirius doesn’t have to have a message board at all, you know. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/9 "2005-01-01T23:13:15Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Once again, censorship is when the _government_ decides what can be published and what cannot. So then I can’t decide to censor my words? Is there a legal definition of censor that is distinctly different from this: > [@Merriam Webster](#): > > Main Entry: 2censor > Function: transitive verb > Inflected Form(s): cen·sored; cen·sor·ing /'sen(t)-s&-ri[ng], 'sen(t)s-ri[ng]/ > : to examine in order to suppress or delete anything considered objectionable. or this: > [@dictionary.com](#): > > Main Entry: cen·sor > Function: transitive verb > : to examine (as a publication or film) in order to suppress or delete any contents considered objectionable > > Source: Merriam-Webster Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc. Nothing about requisite government involvement. Granted, these two sources are not the standard by which all others are judged, but I know of no free online legal dictionary:) ---
**Author:** ![manhattan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manhattan/32/7_2.png) [@manhattan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/manhattan)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 11:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/10 "2005-01-01T23:21:52Z")
I agree with **Impunha** , **Ivylass**. It’s censorship, just not impermissible censorship. The OP, to his credit, did not make an appeal to the First Amendment or claim that Sirius _may_ not censor his topic – he only expressed his presumed anger and frustration that they did. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 1, 2005, 11:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/11 "2005-01-01T23:59:43Z")
> [@manhattan](#): > > he only expressed his presumed anger and frustration that they did. And they have every right to. Censorship, to me, is a hot button word, **iampuhna’s** definition notwithstanding. I was going by the Constitutional definition, not the literal one. To me, if SDMB wants to wipe off every thread on this board discussing, say _The Princess Bride_, and ban its discussion for the future, that is not censorship. It would be most distressing, but the Reader has the right to decided what is and is not discussed on its boards, just like Sirius. Now, if the Illinois state legislature passed a law banning discussion of _The Princess Bride_ on SDMB, that is censorship, and I would howl along with the rest of you. Be mad all you want, **Mr. Roboto** , but it’s their board and their rules. You are free to start your own discussion board on why Sirius doesn’t allow psychadelic 60s music. ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 12:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/12 "2005-01-02T00:01:38Z")
I too agree with, **iampunha**. Sirius has every right censor what it transmits through it’s services. My only point was that it is sad that they do it. _If_ they’re knowingly doing so. ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/13 "2005-01-02T00:07:42Z")
I think we’re trying to split a hair here. Sirius has a right to “censor” its message boards. The government does not have a right to tell Sirius what topics can and cannot be discussed. So, when the gov’t does it, it’s censorship. When Sirius does it, it’s something else. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 12:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/14 "2005-01-02T00:09:12Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > Censorship, to me, is a hot button word, **iampuhna’s** definition notwithstanding. Posted by me, certainly, but attributed:D ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 12:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/15 "2005-01-02T00:11:32Z")
But of course. I didn’t mean to imply you’d made up the defintion. 😉 Do you see what I’m saying, though? I think we’re coming to the same conclusion, just from different directions. ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/16 "2005-01-02T00:14:38Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > I think we’re trying to split a hair here. Sirius has a right to “censor” its message boards. The government does not have a right to tell Sirius what topics can and cannot be discussed. > > So, when the gov’t does it, it’s censorship. When Sirius does it, it’s something else. For all of me I don’t see a qualitative difference, but perhaps a more apt word for what you’re talking about re: Sirius’ activities is monitoring (or the ever-PC “quality control”). What is and/or is not censorship is probably best saved for somewhere goat felching doesn’t usually show up;) ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 12:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/17 "2005-01-02T00:14:46Z")
> [@ivylass](#): > > So, when the gov’t does it, it’s censorship. When Sirius does it, it’s something else. I respectively disagree. It’s the same situation with the SDMB deleting paedophile threads. Is that not censorship? ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/18 "2005-01-02T00:17:32Z")
Which I’m all for by the way! ---
**Author:** ![ivylass](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/9de053/32.png) [@ivylass](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ivylass)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/19 "2005-01-02T00:20:10Z")
> [@ParentalAdvisory](#): > > I respectively disagree. It’s the same situation with the SDMB deleting paedophile threads. Is that not censorship? To me, no. Because SDMB has a right to delete whatever threads it wants to. Call it moderating the boards or starving the trolls, but to me, it’s not censorship. I guess it’s because SDMB has a right to “censor,” whereas the gov’t does not. So I prefer to call what the gov’t is not allowed to do censorship. Censorship is a word that gets thrown around a lot, by people screaming that they have a “right” to buy Playboy at Wal-mart, and because Wal-mart doesn’t stock it, that’s censorship. But it’s not, at least in a Constitutional sense, because Wal-mart as a private entity can decide what it does and does not sell. I think we’re disagreeing over the literal vs. Constitutional meaning of the word. So I shall call what Sirius does (c)ensorship, and if the FCC came in and made them delete all the psychadelic threads, that’s Censorship. ---
**Author:** ![ParentalAdvisory](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/53a042/32.png) [@ParentalAdvisory](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ParentalAdvisory)\ **Post date:** [January 2, 2005, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581/20 "2005-01-02T00:23:52Z")
I see, hidden meanings. Kinda like Nice Guy, and nice guy. :smack: [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/censorships-alive-sirius-radio-messageboard/282581.md?page=2)