# Central PA Dopefest? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 2, 2004, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935 "2004-04-02T18:45:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/361 "2004-06-14T14:40:12Z")
> [@Casey1505](#): > > French’s Yellow just doesn’t belong on a chili dog, especially one made with the quality chili representing on Saturday. French’s doesn’t belong on any food. Leviticus 23:15 “And there shall not be found amongst you a paste of the mustard seed which is yellow. For such things are an abomination in the eyes of the Lord. It is forbidden for My people to make them. If a stranger should give such unto you, you shall refuse it saying ‘Vhat is dis? You call dis mustard? You’ve insulted me and ruined dis food.’ The mustard of My people must be brown, or golden. And it must be spicy. For the people Israel shall gather in delicatessens. They will have a nice pickle, corned beef on rye and top it with mustard. And they shall know that I am the Lord.” Which brings me to my next point- Will there be anything there I can eat? While I would never break the Code Of Manliness by asking another guy to disclose his chili recipe-will there be any without pork products? Do any dairy products (this includes many brands of margarine. I Can’ Believe It’s Not Butter- Looking at the ingredients, I can’t believe it either. It is butter, mixed with a large amount of corn oil.) go into the average chili (I doubt they do, but considering that some chilis use peanut butter as a thickener, I figured I should ask)? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 2:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/362 "2004-06-14T14:42:29Z")
Given the enthusiasm with which the dawgs idea is being greeted, maybe someone who’s waiting for a suggestion should bring another couple dozen – if we’ve got 40 or 50 people on deck, we will probably go through them without a problem. And wet wipes. I think **dances** is right about the need for wet wipes. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 2:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/363 "2004-06-14T14:44:30Z")
Sorry **Doc** – you snuck in there on me. I was planning to get Kosher dawgs. And your share of the German potato salad? I’ll be happy to snarf it down for you. ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/364 "2004-06-14T14:48:30Z")
List of Suggestions (to make it easier on the late arrivals): 1. More hot dogs and buns. We can spend some time waxing philosophical on the nature of the 10-dog/8-bun discrepancy. 2. Wet wipes. You can get these in re-sealable HUGE packs in the baby aisle. (I think 240 wipes to the package.) 3. Burgers and buns. For those (commies) who don’t like dawgs. 4. Can’t think of anything else, but I’m sure someone will. To reiterate: I’m bringing a knife for the watermelon, shredded cheese, saltines, and trash bags. And **DocCathode** : Doktor Fluff’s chili has no pork or dairy that I am aware of. I’ve had it before. Robin ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 2:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/365 "2004-06-14T14:49:34Z")
Oh, yeah, and I’m bringing spicy mustard. Robin ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/366 "2004-06-14T14:53:24Z")
There is no pork or peanut butter in my chili. Not being Jewish myself, I am not very familiar with the dietary restrictions. Can you not eat pork or bacon at all, or just not in combination with other foods (such as pork + dairy = taboo)? If it’s that you can’t have it in combination, I would be happy to pack some in a tupperware container for you to enjoy at another time when it won’t cause conflict. ---
**Author:** ![Feit\_C\_Taj](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ee59a6/32.png) [@Feit\_C\_Taj](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Feit_C_Taj)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 2:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/367 "2004-06-14T14:56:39Z")
> [@MsRobyn](#): > > And **DocCathode** : Doktor Fluff’s chili has no pork or dairy that I am aware of. I’ve had it before. Nope, no pork, no dairy, and (in deference to **The 27th Evil** , no onions, either. I also guarantee no secondary burning, if you catch my drift. :eek: This isn’t to say that you won’t sweat, however. ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/368 "2004-06-14T14:57:39Z")
By “pack some in a container”, I 'm referring to German potato salad. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 3:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/369 "2004-06-14T15:04:22Z")
> [@Casey1505](#): > > By “pack some in a container”, I 'm referring to German potato salad. I was thinking there might be bacon involved, which would make it problematical for him. OTOH, he could always take the container, and I could make the cost of the ride “one tupperware container of German potato salad” … Hmmm… ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/370 "2004-06-14T15:21:28Z")
I make my German potato salad like this: Fru up a quantity of bacon, remove from grease, fry onions in grease. Add to potatoes with sugar and white vinegar. Mix. Container will be supplied. You two wrestle for ownership. ---
**Author:** ![Casey1505](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dc4da7/32.png) [@Casey1505](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Casey1505)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/371 "2004-06-14T15:23:20Z")
:smack: The bacon gets chopped up and added, too. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 3:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/372 "2004-06-14T15:25:47Z")
Kashrut- The Quick Version No pork or other pig products (It’s surprising how often you find bacon or ham in something and the waiter says sincerely ‘You said no pork. That isn’t pork, it’s ham.’) No shellfish, or fish without fins and scales (No clams, shrimp etc No catfish, no octopods-I doubt this will come up) No wild animals- If you’ve brought venison steaks from that 6 point buck, I can’t have any. The confusing ones- No mixing milk and meat. I can have all beef burgers or hot dogs. I can have cheese and ice cream. But no mixing of meat and dairy products. Not to be a pain in the tuchas (that would be butt to you gentiles) but could you check the bun labels for dairy? They often contain-milk, butter, or whey (more confusing is that some labels list it as ‘dairy whey’ implying that ‘whey’ isn’t dairy. It is.). Poultry is considered meat, and may not be mixed with dairy. Fish and eggs are considered neither meat nor dairy. BTW- I just realized I can bring many plastic forks. Due to my OCD, washing dishes and silverware is a big problem. The time and effort it takes for me to make one thing clean to my satisfaction is more than most people expend washing an entire sinkful. So, I switched to paper plates and plasticware. I’m running low on cups and plates. I’m out of knives and spoons. But I have several large boxes of plastic forks. ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 3:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/373 "2004-06-14T15:31:32Z")
> [@Casey1505](#): > > There is no pork or peanut butter in my chili. Not being Jewish myself, I am not very familiar with the dietary restrictions. Can you not eat pork or bacon at all, or just not in combination with other foods (such as pork + dairy = taboo)? If it’s that you can’t have it in combination, I would be happy to pack some in a tupperware container for you to enjoy at another time when it won’t cause conflict. The basic rules are: Beef, buffalo, sheep, deer, other herd herbivores = meat Chicken, turkey, duck, etc = meat All milk products = dairy Mixing meat and dairy in the same recipie is prohibited. Mainstream sources prohibit mixing meat and dairy in the same meal. Pig products are prohibited in full. No ham, pork, bacon, etc. at all. This is just a quick reference guide, and is not intended for use as a religious authority. Detailed questions are properly handled by a rabbi. Professional cases are best referred to a qualified moshgiach for quality control review. I am neither a rabbi nor a moshgiach. Practices and prohibitions vary by branch. Customs may differ among Sephardim and may differ wildly in other streams. You shall eat and be satisfied. AOP: What **DocCathode** said. ---
**Author:** ![engineer\_comp\_geek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/engineer_comp_geek/32/504_2.png) [@engineer\_comp\_geek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/engineer_comp_geek)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 3:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/374 "2004-06-14T15:51:29Z")
Unless someone objects or has a better suggestion, I’ll be bringing hot dogs, buns, and wet wipes. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 4:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/375 "2004-06-14T16:13:13Z")
**Engineer\_Comp\_Geek** Didn’t you see my post? ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/376 "2004-06-14T16:28:40Z")
I’m down for sausage rolls, sausages wrapped in pie crust. They are definitely not Kosher, but they are tasty and suitable for picky eaters. The cheese bread I’ll be bringing has dairy, but no meat, of course. What meals are we looking at? I plan on arriving around midday, but I’ll have to leave before evening, so I’m looking at lunch, not dinner. Do we want to fiddle with meal times or just have an all day snack-a-thon? By the way, **Doc Cathode** , check your e-mail for **HJay** ’s real name. CJ ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 4:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/377 "2004-06-14T16:40:26Z")
Meat (beef), beans, and vegetable products (peppers, onions, garlic) are the only ingredients in my chili, so it should be alright, although IANAR. ;j I never saw an answer to the type of onion folks wanted for chilidogs, regular dogs, guide dogs or what-ever ---
**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 4:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/378 "2004-06-14T16:58:39Z")
> [@danceswithcats](#): > > I never saw an answer to the type of onion folks wanted for chilidogs, regular dogs, guide dogs or what-ever None ideally, but it would be pointless for you to make a batch just for me (I’m not much for chili). I tend to go putt-putt-putt-putt if I eat onions or beans. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b5ac83/32.png) [@The\_Mad\_Hermit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Mad_Hermit)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/379 "2004-06-14T17:09:47Z")
I plan to keep it simple- chicken, with different barbecue sauces and seasonings. So far I’m planning on making enough for about 75 servings… is this going to be enough, or too much? I’ll bring the crockpots and a good extension cord. I should cook the chicken early, and if some is desired later I’ll make a store run for fresh. Our biggest problem will be refrigeration of food we want to eat later in the day, so I’ll be bringing at least one cooler. If anyone wants to bring an extra cooler or two in case it’s needed, well, that would be cool. 😉 Since we’re near the last minute- does anyone need a ride from western PA? It will be just me and Mrs. 'phan, so we have a little room. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 5:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/380 "2004-06-14T17:10:54Z")
Just to be clear, I’m not trying to force everybody to bring kosher food. I just want to make sure that some of the food is kosher. If somebody wants to bring shrimp and gouda wrapped in bacon, it’s fine by me. **DWC** Is any of that fried or sauteed in butter? And I vote for some variety of sweet onion, to better contrast the spicy mustard and the fennel which is an essential part of any decent dog. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935.md?page=20)