# Central PA Dopefest? **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [April 2, 2004, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935 "2004-04-02T18:45:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 21
**Author:** ![fizzestothetop](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/e79b87/32.png) [@fizzestothetop](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fizzestothetop)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/401 "2004-06-14T22:25:13Z")
> [@The 27th Evil](#): > > Additonal note… > > Anyone drink unsweetened iced tea? I have a container of loose leaves I don’t use for hot that I can brew and ice… Unsweetened iced tea? Surely you jest! Just dump about a gallon of sugar in the pitcher when you make the tea and it ought to be just fine to drink. 😉 You yankees sure are a zaney bunch! ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/402 "2004-06-14T22:33:39Z")
> [@fizzestothetop](#): > > Unsweetened iced tea? Surely you jest! Just dump about a gallon of sugar in the pitcher when you make the tea and it ought to be just fine to drink. 😉 > > You yankees sure are a zaney bunch! Tell me about it. I sampled some of her tea Saturday night and it was a little, shall we say, astringent. Like you could use it to wash your face. 😉 Robin ---
**Author:** ![jayjay](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jayjay/32/6765_2.png) [@jayjay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jayjay)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/403 "2004-06-14T22:35:35Z")
> [@The 27th Evil](#): > > Additonal note… > > Anyone drink unsweetened iced tea? I have a container of loose leaves I don’t use for hot that I can brew and ice… You bring the tea, we’ll bring the Splenda packets… ---
**Author:** ![danceswithcats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/9e8a1a/32.png) [@danceswithcats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/danceswithcats)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 10:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/404 "2004-06-14T22:36:07Z")
Updated _Who is Bringing What List_ and Dopercount **27th Evil** – Evil yet Kosher? dips **AntaresJB** - chocolate chip cookies **Asterion** – a vehicular tsunami of drinkage **Casey1505** - German potato salad, 5# bean-free chili, beer-on-the-sly, Tabasco **danceswithcats** - 5# chili with a 😉 to other chili folk (warning-contains beans!), and onions, N.O.S. **DocCathode** – ginger beer **Doktor Fluff** - chili-part deux :eek: **engineer\_comp\_geek** – hot dogs, buns, vacuum tubes, and perhaps a jade monkey **FairyChatMom** - cucumber-onion salad **Frank #2** - utensils **GingerOfTheNorth** - pie **iampunha/fizzestothetop** - 1-4 watermelon, and Zimbabwe **Jadis** - beverages **jayjay** - pasta salad & homemade brownies **Magickly Delicious/theckhd** – soda, cups, and nametags **MsRobyn & Airman Doors** - crackers, cheese and A KNIFE! **norinew** - whole wheat mac & chee and a teenager to go **nyctea scandiaca** - mini-sammitch variety **phall0106** – cornbread, chicken breasts, and other thoughts **Scuba\_Ben** - gazpacho soup, soda/juice, and ice **Shirt Ninja 13** - ice cream **Siege** - sausage rolls & cheese bread **Steelerphan** - hot air roasted chicken **Triskadecamus** - cooler & ice, soda, and kimchi + more kimchi **twickster** - carrot cake which may not be PG-13 and/or dawgs, with a 30% chance of mustard Dopercount including kidlets is **~50** but I know there are some lurkers. To be green-I’ll bring bags for aluminum, glass, and plastic. My waste/recycling goes out on Monday morning, so it’s not a problem. Directions are on one of the previous pages, as well as the invite to email me for cell phone number, and assistance with lodging-some of the little Mom & Pop motels aren’t listed online. Not to worry, **DocCathode** , no margerine, butter or anything like such goes into my mix. ---
**Author:** ![The\_27th\_Evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ebca7d/32.png) [@The\_27th\_Evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_27th_Evil)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 10:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/405 "2004-06-14T22:40:59Z")
> [@](#): > > Tell me about it. I sampled some of her tea Saturday night and it was a little, shall we say, astringent. Like you could use it to wash your face. > > Robin **MsRobyn** , you should just be glad I’m leaving my soy recipes at home… Why, yes, I do eat odd things. Nothing wrong with that. ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/406 "2004-06-14T23:10:39Z")
**GingerOfTheNorth** Strictness varies depending on tradition, sect, and the individual Jew. Strict Orthodox Jews will not eat anything that wasn’t made in a kosher kitchen-no restaurants, no eating at the houses of gentile friends. I’m not near that strict. Yeah one of the Dopers making chili may have used the same bowl for pork last week. I’m hoping (primarily for sanitary reasons) that they washed it afterwards. The average all beef hot dog is certified kosher (The symbols are the trademarks of various organizations whose websites can be consulted to learn their standards. ) so are the average bun, ketchup, mustard, soda etc. A team of rabbis (sometimes these guys get degrees in chemistry and such to better judge whether a thing is kosher) have certified that the whole manufacturing process for that product meets their standards. I only need to worry about the mixing of meat and dairy products. As I’ve said dairy products can be in surprising places. I assume well be using paper plates. Often hand I can’t think of a brand of those that isn’t kosher. Any raw meat (burgers for instance) must be drained of blood before it can be eaten. Fortunately, cooking a burger to well done on a grill satisfies this requirement. What about the grill itself? Grills, ovens and the like can be cleansed. With fire. There’s some debate over when something ceases to be pork and becomes a carbon deposit. But, in my book, if there’s no visible residue from a pork sausage, waiting a few seconds before slapping the burger on the grill would do it. As things stand now, my real problem will be everybody else devouring the desserts while I wait an hour after eating meat. BTW- Somebody joked about meat in ice cream. According to many rabbis, and our own **ZevSteinhardt** , many desserts do contain a meat product- gelatin. The stuff is derived from animal bones and most Orthodox rabbis agree that it is a meat product. I’m currently on the fence on the subject. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/407 "2004-06-14T23:24:39Z")
> [@twickster](#): > > I could single-handedly go through a 12-pack of Diet Dr Pepper (the quaff of the gods). I’ll be happy to throw a few bucks your way for this… One 12-pack of Dr. Pepper and one 12-pack of Diet Dr. Pepper added to the list. Might I suggest that anyone else bringing drinks also brings along a case or two of water? I know that weather forecasts this far out are nearly useless, but so far they’re predicting low 80s and partly cloudy. The last thing needed is for anyone to get dehydrated. As I’ve said, I’ve got about enough water for everyone to have a bottle, but unless we’ve got a potable water hookup, we could be hurting at the end of the day. Or is this just desert-boy being paranoid and unreasonable in regard to this part of the country? ---
**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 11:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/408 "2004-06-14T23:34:04Z")
> [@The 27th Evil](#): > > **MsRobyn** , you should just be glad I’m leaving my soy recipes at home… > > Why, yes, I do eat odd things. Nothing wrong with that. Edamame is good. Robin ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/409 "2004-06-14T23:38:37Z")
Oh, and if there’s anyone in the Huntingdon-Altoona-State College area that would like or need a ride with me, I can take two or three people (depending on whether or not the girl mentioned earlier say yes.) It’s a Subaru Impreza wagon, so it’s got a fair bit of room, even in the back seat. Plus, I just put in XM satellite radio, and this will be my first chance to really try it out (the short trip from State College back to Huntingdon doesn’t really count, as it wasn’t mounted properly at the time.) The back has been pretty well filled with soda, along with the normal stuff I keep back there, but I’m sure I can find a little more space if needed. If anyone would like to go with, I’ll need to know what time you want to arrive in Gettysburg since it’ll take me probably an hour to get there if I’m going to Altoona or State College and then that’ll add about another hour to what is already a two-hour drive. ---
**Author:** ![The\_27th\_Evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ebca7d/32.png) [@The\_27th\_Evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_27th_Evil)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 11:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/410 "2004-06-14T23:43:13Z")
> [@](#): > > Edamame is good. > > Robin Don’t tempt me with that! I’m stuck at this desk till 11 and consequently can’t take care of this massive sushi and edamame craving. Too bad sushi is sort of a serve-immediately meal. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [June 14, 2004, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/411 "2004-06-14T23:57:54Z")
> [@The 27th Evil](#): > > Don’t tempt me with that! I’m stuck at this desk till 11 and consequently can’t take care of this massive sushi and edamame craving. > > Too bad sushi is sort of a serve-immediately meal. And too bad Mai’s doesn’t deliver. It’s close enough that sushi would be a possibility. Robin ---
**Author:** ![The\_27th\_Evil](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ebca7d/32.png) [@The\_27th\_Evil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_27th_Evil)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2004, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/412 "2004-06-15T00:07:36Z")
> [@](#): > > And too bad Mai’s doesn’t deliver. It’s close enough that sushi would be a possibility. > > Robin They need to start delivering. There isn’t another safe Chinese/Japanese place in town, and I have neither the skills nor the money to make my own. By the way, I’ll sweeten some of the tea for you. I’m thinking 1 batch sweet and 1 batch not. Anyone want lemon juice in it? ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2004, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/413 "2004-06-15T03:23:13Z")
Forecast for Saturday here in Philly – partly cloudy, 82. Keep your fingers crossed! ---
**Author:** ![Siege](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dbc845/32.png) [@Siege](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siege)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2004, 10:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/414 "2004-06-15T10:10:55Z")
> [@jayjay](#): > > Does anyone else coming to this thing knit? Enough people to make the possibility of a little bit of a Stitch & Bitch sometime during the day worthwhile? I do, actually, and I’ve got a tank top I’ve been working on. I could also bring the infamous pi shawl, but it’s a running joke between me and Polycarp that after I finish it, I will have to kill him. 😉 CJ ---
**Author:** ![Meros](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/8797f3/32.png) [@Meros](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Meros)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2004, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/415 "2004-06-15T13:49:38Z")
I promised **Cleophus** and **DocCathode** tat i’d chime in with my attendance by today. Unfortunately the situation I mentioned to them is still hanging over my head so I’m loathe to go much of anywhere until i hear for certain one way or another. Sorry about this guys, you know I’d be going if I could. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2004, 1:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/416 "2004-06-15T13:54:57Z")
Sorry you can’t make it, **Meros** , I was looking forward to seeing you again. **Cleophus, Doc Cathode** , the twicksmobile is at your disposal. Email me: [twickster47@yahoo.com](mailto:twickster47@yahoo.com) ---
**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2004, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/417 "2004-06-15T14:47:37Z")
> [@GingerOfTheNorth](#): > > **DocCathode** , **scuba\_ben** : I thought you needed to have a rabbi present, and food prepared in a kosher kitchen, in order for it to be a-ok for you to eat? **DocCathode** is more strict than I am. I’m less picky about what was on the grill right before my burger, or whether it was grilled next to a cheeseburger. And at a mass picnic like this, I sometimes forget about waiting an hour between the burger and the ice cream. I’ll eat anybody’s beef chili (hold the cheese), though I have been known to discreetly check the buns for “kosher-parve.” You’d be surprised how many burger buns are made with milk. My gazpacho soup is all veggie, made with dairy utensils. Hmm… next time I’m in the grocery store, I’ll pick up a few parve desserts for **DocCathode** and myself, and anybody else who wants some. My car is still open. Any more Philly Dopers looking for a ride? ---
**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2004, 7:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/418 "2004-06-15T19:06:27Z")
> [@Scuba\_Ben](#): > > I’ll pick up a few parve desserts For the nonJews in the thread- Milschig- Dairy products and those utensils and dishes used with them Fleischig- Meat products and those utensil and dishes used with them Parve- Those things which are not classified as meat or dairy- fruits, vegetables, etc, fish, eggs. If you’ve ever heard of Jewish apple cake it gets its name because, unlike most cakes, it’s made without dairy products and can be served with any meal. **Siege** Thank you. I read the e-mail a few days ago and have been searching my shelves. Sadly, I don’t have any of his work. **Twickster** Thank you, and I shall send you an e-mail to work out the details. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2004, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/419 "2004-06-15T20:16:53Z")
> [@DocCathode](#): > > For the nonJews in the thread- > > Milschig- Dairy products and those utensils and dishes used with them > > Fleischig- Meat products and those utensil and dishes used with them > > Parve- Those things which are not classified as meat or dairy- fruits, vegetables, etc, fish, eggs. Are those Yiddish in origin? I ask, because it looks like bastardized German (which has honestly always been my impression of Yiddish.) ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f0a364/32.png) [@Captain\_Carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Carrot)\ **Post date:** [June 15, 2004, 8:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/420 "2004-06-15T20:38:43Z")
Hmmm. Well, since my brother is no longer taking me home (Still there, right?), I either need a ride or I can’t go. Or lodging, of course, but I don’t think that would work too well. So, anyone up for ferrying me back to northern Virginia, DC area (or to a Metro stop if I can mooch a card and ride home off my mom again)? Please? Pretty please with a cherry on top? (SOOOOOOO glad I decided to reread this thread) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935.md?page=20) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935.md?page=22)