# Central PA Dopefest?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [April 2, 2004, 6:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935 "2004-04-02T18:45:52Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2004, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/421 "2004-06-15T21:09:26Z")

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> [@Scuba\_Ben](#):
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> Hmm… next time I’m in the grocery store, I’ll pick up a few parve desserts for **DocCathode** and myself, and anybody else who wants some.

If margarine is pareve, I’ll take care of dessert, no worries.

I thought Doc was Orthodox - I have only ever seen Orthodox men wearing kipot.

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2004, 9:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/422 "2004-06-15T21:43:32Z")

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How did I manage to turn this into “All About Cathode And Kashrut”?

**Asterion** Milschig and fleischig are definitely Yiddish. Yiddish is indeed a mix of German vocaulary and syntax with Hebrew vocabulary and syntax. I’m not sure if the German used was high, middle, or low. Sephardic Jews produced a language of their own by mixing Hebrew and Spanish, Ladino.

**Ginger** That depends on the margarine. Most isn’t. Either check the ingredients, or look at the kosher mark. Most margarine has either the letter d or the word dairy next to the mark. Nondairy margarine is tasteless and not a reasonable substitute for butter except in recipes. It also can’t be stored in the freezer (this causes the oil and solids to seperate). And it’s higher in transfats.  
I am not Orthodox. I tend more toward Conservative (this is the middle sect between strictly observant and traditional Orthodox, and liberal, ya don’t have to keep the traditions if ya don’t wanna Reform). **Zev Steinhardt** and **CmKeller** are Orthodox. You may notice that I post on Saturdays. And that I ate at Eulogy. If anybody really wants to discuss my personal beliefs and practices, we should stop hijacking the thread and use e-mail or wait until we can do it in person.

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2004, 11:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/423 "2004-06-15T23:20:41Z")

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> [@dwalin](#):
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> Hmmm. Well, since my brother is no longer taking me home (Still there, right?)…

Well, we’re heading up the day before and staying the night in Hanover. I will ask **fizzy** how she feels about you staying with us, but I am reasonably confident that “ **punha** ’s younger brother” in the same room while she is in her night attire would probably not be the best idea for either of you;) The night following the fest (Saturday, in case that was unclear) is, shall we say, not an option and I think I can safely speak for **fizzy** there:D

It does not look good for the away team, but do not give up hope yet:)

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**Author:** ![GingerOfTheNorth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/cdc98d/32.png) [@GingerOfTheNorth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GingerOfTheNorth)\
**Post date:** [June 15, 2004, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/424 "2004-06-15T23:25:13Z")

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> [@DocCathode](#):
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> How did I manage to turn this into “All About Cathode And Kashrut”?
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> **Asterion** Milschig and fleischig are definitely Yiddish. Yiddish is indeed a mix of German vocaulary and syntax with Hebrew vocabulary and syntax. I’m not sure if the German used was high, middle, or low. Sephardic Jews produced a language of their own by mixing Hebrew and Spanish, Ladino.
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> **Ginger** That depends on the margarine. Most isn’t. Either check the ingredients, or look at the kosher mark. Most margarine has either the letter d or the word dairy next to the mark. Nondairy margarine is tasteless and not a reasonable substitute for butter except in recipes. It also can’t be stored in the freezer (this causes the oil and solids to seperate). And it’s higher in transfats.  
> I am not Orthodox. I tend more toward Conservative (this is the middle sect between strictly observant and traditional Orthodox, and liberal, ya don’t have to keep the traditions if ya don’t wanna Reform). **Zev Steinhardt** and **CmKeller** are Orthodox. You may notice that I post on Saturdays. And that I ate at Eulogy. If anybody really wants to discuss my personal beliefs and practices, we should stop hijacking the thread and use e-mail or wait until we can do it in person.

I have tried emailing you before, you ween. No response.

Anyway, I have a good friend who is Orthodox, and patiently answers stupid questions I put to him (today: Hey, Seth, why don’t you have a Shabbos Goy?" - then I ran). I will make certain to make a pareve dessert. Have no fear! I have Google and know how to spell both Recipe and Jewish.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/425 "2004-06-16T01:20:29Z")

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I could bring veggie burgers if anyone is interested.

It probably isn’t worth asking, but I’ll ask anyway: are any of those various chilis vegetarian? _not holding out much hope_

Is someone bringing tomatoes and lettuce or should I grab some?

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**Author:** ![DocCathode](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doccathode/32/18773_2.png) [@DocCathode](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DocCathode)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/426 "2004-06-16T08:05:33Z")

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> [@GingerOfTheNorth](#):
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> I have tried emailing you before, you ween. No response.

:smack: I just forgot to respond. Now that I think about it, this seems to be an ongoing problem.

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**Author:** ![Frank\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Frank\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank_2)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 12:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/427 "2004-06-16T12:41:51Z")

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> [@OpalCat](#):
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> I could bring veggie burgers if anyone is interested.

What you should bring is copious amounts of juggling apparatii so as to entertain the masses. That and it’s been a while since I did any passing.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/428 "2004-06-16T14:55:54Z")

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> [@Frank #2](#):
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> What you should bring is copious amounts of juggling apparatii so as to entertain the masses. That and it’s been a while since I did any passing.

Ooh good idea. Crowd that large we’re sure to have some other jugglers. Do you have clubs? I only have three so unless I borrow some, I can’t pass unless you bring your own.

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**Author:** ![Frank\_2](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/8c91f0/32.png) [@Frank\_2](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank_2)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/429 "2004-06-16T18:27:58Z")

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I do have 2 sets of clubs, but they’re mis-matched. One set roughly looks like [this](http://www.jugglingstore.com/store/detail.aspx?ID=205) and [this](http://www.jugglingstore.com/store/detail.aspx?ID=271) would be the other set. I’ll throw those in the car along with my set of 9 balls, devil sticks, lacrosse balls (fun on concrete), and my acrylic ball (for that Michael Mochen hand manipulation thing). Fun fun. 🙂

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/430 "2004-06-16T20:20:40Z")

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Ack! American style clubs! I learned on some Jugglebug Americans… now that I use European style I find that Americans are like juggling watermelons on sticks! It would be really hard to pass with those. I just sold my Airflights this spring–those are the same general shape as mine so passing with them should be possible.

I have an acrylic ball for contact juggling, too, but I use a hollow soft plastic stage ball for practicing because I’m not good at it yet and that acrylic ball is _hard_ and _heavy_ and I could see it breaking everything in the room… heh. I don’t even carry it in my juggling bag.

I’ll bring my diabolo…

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 8:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/431 "2004-06-16T20:28:00Z")

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Is anyone else going to want veggie burgers? Depending on how motivated I get, I may make cole slaw, too…

I may or may not be bringing Dominic, btw.

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**Author:** ![Green\_Cymbeline](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/green_cymbeline/32/9244_2.png) [@Green\_Cymbeline](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Green_Cymbeline)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/432 "2004-06-16T20:43:09Z")

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Opal, I will be bringing egg salad, tuna salad and cold-cut mini-sandwiches, so you can eat the egg salad ones, right?

I will be bringing some beverages too.

I also am going to bring a couple of chairs and my picnic blanket so we can sit out in the sun/on the grass.

Are we having music? Is someone bringing a CD player? I will bring CDs. I encourage others to bring CDs too.

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**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/433 "2004-06-16T20:56:10Z")

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Ooh, chairs, good idea, **nyctea**! I can bring two, of the low-to-the-ground beach chair variety.

I’ve got a cheap boombox – can’t brag about the sound quality, but I can bring it if no one has anything better.

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**Author:** ![OpalCat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/8edcca/32.png) [@OpalCat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OpalCat)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/434 "2004-06-16T21:00:44Z")

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**danceswithcats** - I sent you email but haven’t heard back from you. I need to discuss something with you urgently. Can you email me? (opalcat @ [fathom.org](http://fathom.org))  
**nyctea** - mmmm! I love egg salad 🙂

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**Author:** ![FairyChatMom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fairychatmom/32/21906_2.png) [@FairyChatMom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FairyChatMom)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/435 "2004-06-16T21:01:16Z")

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The FairyChats will not be in attendance. It’s just too long a drive for an afternoon shindig, and other commitments preclude staying over in a hotel. That’s the curse of living in the boonies, but we’ve decided that our driving limit is 2 hours, unless it’s a family obligation. DC/Baltimore/Northern VA gatherings will be doable, but most anything beyond is more than we want to take on.

This was a difficult decision, because there were so many of you who I wanted to see again or meet. But the two-hour rule rules.

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**Author:** ![AntaresJB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c2a13f/32.png) [@AntaresJB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AntaresJB)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 9:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/436 "2004-06-16T21:08:31Z")

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> [@nyctea scandiaca](#):
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> Are we having music? Is someone bringing a CD player? I will bring CDs. I encourage others to bring CDs too.

Well, I’m still planning on bringing my guitar, but I can also bring along my weak-but-workable CD player/boombox, since we do have electrical access, and my piddling CD collection. (On preview, I don’t know how my box might compare to **twickster** ’s, but maybe we can both bring and then just use whichever’s better?) And I’ve got one little folding chair I’ll bring.

And I plan on baking my contribution tonight. They’ll be chocolate-butterscotch chip cookies, made with Hershey’s Special Dark Chocolate Chips and Nestle’s Butterscotch Morsels. I’m excited. 😃

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [June 16, 2004, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/437 "2004-06-16T21:20:10Z")

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> [@twickster](#):
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> Ooh, chairs, good idea, **nyctea**! I can bring two, of the low-to-the-ground beach chair variety.
> 
> I’ve got a cheap boombox – can’t brag about the sound quality, but I can bring it if no one has anything better.

I’ve got one, too.

Robin

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 12:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/438 "2004-06-17T00:39:19Z")

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This will probably get me laughed at as much as **Robyn** did for that whole ball/mouse thing, but y’all already laugh at me anyway, so I figure this can’t hurt too much.

Watermelons are busily being sold here in The South, but I don’t know for sure that they are yet being sold in the wilds of the DC or Gettysburg areas. Someone appease me?

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**Author:** ![MsRobyn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/90ced4/32.png) [@MsRobyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsRobyn)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/439 "2004-06-17T00:52:07Z")

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> [@iampunha](#):
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> This will probably get me laughed at as much as **Robyn** did for that whole ball/mouse thing, but y’all already laugh at me anyway, so I figure this can’t hurt too much.
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> Watermelons are busily being sold here in The South, but I don’t know for sure that they are yet being sold in the wilds of the DC or Gettysburg areas. Someone appease me?

It’s not that dumb a question, as questions go. It’s not like you’re asking what the meaning of “is” is.

Yes, watermelons are currently being sold in Pennsylvania.

Robin

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**Author:** ![iampunha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/74df32/32.png) [@iampunha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iampunha)\
**Post date:** [June 17, 2004, 1:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/central-pa-dopefest/237935/440 "2004-06-17T01:09:47Z")

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> [@MsRobyn](#):
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> It’s not that dumb a question, as questions go. It’s not like you’re asking what the meaning of “is” is.

What is the definition of “is”?

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