# Cesario: shut the fuck up, you gross fucking asshole **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 6, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954 "2010-02-06T22:15:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/201 "2010-02-07T19:13:23Z")
> [@Cesario](#): > > No it wasn’t. > > On a more general note, I’m fine with you guys venting and frothing and all, but I would appreciate it if you didn’t misrepresent my actions and views. **MeanOldLady** , you’ve been doing a particularly poor job separating what I’ve actually said from what you’d preffer I said because it would fuel your outrage. Since it’s obvious you guys don’t want me to post here, I’m willing to leave the general abuse alone, but I’m not going to ignore misrepresentations and mischaracterizations. You are sexually attracted to very young children, you want laws changed so that you can rape those very young children with no penalty, you find nothing wrong with that attraction and and those beliefs and have vociferously defended them, and you want to talk about them in public without being called names or looked down upon. There’s nothing, NOTHING, about your beliefs and actions that is defensible. Your even wanting to talk about it is nothing more than sexual gratification, in that you get to talk about your fantasies and defend them. ---
**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/202 "2010-02-07T19:15:21Z")
> [@raindog](#): > > Whatever it takes. > > If “misrepresentations and mischaracterizations” is what it will take to get you to leave, then I’m sure we can accommodate you. > > Just please leave. I think you misinterpreted my comment there. Misrepresentations and mischaracterizations are what would convince me I need to respond. The general abuse and name-calling I’ve been ignoring. ---
**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/203 "2010-02-07T19:19:49Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > You are sexually attracted to very young children, Yes. > [@Kolga](#): > > you want laws changed so that you can rape those very young children with no penalty, No. I would like to see laws changed to make the standard of informed consent actually mean something reasonable (like requiring people to be informed) versus the current arbitrary-line-in-the-sand-based-on-nothing system that I see as causing no good and a great deal of harm. > [@Kolga](#): > > you find nothing wrong with that attraction Nope. Nothing wrong with it at all. > [@Kolga](#): > > and and those beliefs and have vociferously defended them, Well, those that actually reflect my beliefs. You got one of them wrong, after all. > [@Kolga](#): > > and you want to talk about them in public without being called names or looked down upon. Well, that’d be nice, but it isn’t a strictly necessary part of my long-term planning. > [@Kolga](#): > > There’s nothing, NOTHING, about your beliefs and actions that is defensible. I disagree. > [@Kolga](#): > > Your even wanting to talk about it is nothing more than sexual gratification, in that you get to talk about your fantasies and defend them. If anything, it feeds into my desire to confront bullies and make up for having rolled over for them too often in my youth. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/204 "2010-02-07T19:20:57Z")
> [@Cesario](#): > > No it wasn’t. > > On a more general note, I’m fine with you guys venting and frothing and all, but I would appreciate it if you didn’t misrepresent my actions and views. **MeanOldLady** , you’ve been doing a particularly poor job separating what I’ve actually said from what you’d preffer I said because it would fuel your outrage. Since it’s obvious you guys don’t want me to post here, I’m willing to leave the general abuse alone, but I’m not going to ignore misrepresentations and mischaracterizations. I’m not going to sift through your perverted posts, because reading them makes me want to vomit. You’ve stated your opposition to child porn laws, and have stated that kiddy fucking laws are drawn at some arbitrary age that you don’t agree with, because in your sick mind, there’s an 11 year old somewhere who is consenting to being boned by an old man, and it’s unfair that said old man would be imprisoned for boning said 11 year old. You also seem to be under the impression that we all have an inner pedophile, and we watch shows and movies where kids are abused because we’re drawn to the idea of children being violated, but we dress it up as outrage. No. We don’t. \*\*You \*\*want to fuck children. We don’t. There \*\*is \*\*something wrong with it. Fuck off heartily. ---
**Author:** ![Dusty\_Rose](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/ba8739/32.png) [@Dusty\_Rose](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dusty_Rose)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/205 "2010-02-07T19:22:00Z")
And here it goes… The Cesario Hour. Presented line by line. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Giraffe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giraffe/32/129_2.png) [@Giraffe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giraffe)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/206 "2010-02-07T19:22:06Z")
> [@Cesario](#): > > On a more general note, I’m fine with you guys venting and frothing and all, but I would appreciate it if you didn’t misrepresent my actions and views. **MeanOldLady** , you’ve been doing a particularly poor job separating what I’ve actually said from what you’d preffer I said because it would fuel your outrage. Since it’s obvious you guys don’t want me to post here, I’m willing to leave the general abuse alone, but I’m not going to ignore misrepresentations and mischaracterizations. Here’s the thing: I don’t give a flying fuck what you actually meant. **You shouldn’t be posting about sex or kids. At all.** Not directly, not indirectly, not with a little winking smiley. At all. Those topics are not for you. As long as you continue to do so, I’ll continue wanting you to shut the fuck up and go away. ---
**Author:** ![Kolga](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e56c9b/32.png) [@Kolga](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kolga)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/207 "2010-02-07T19:22:52Z")
Thank you for illustrating my point. You’re a disgusting, perverted, pathetic little piece of filth. I knew right after I originally posted that I would regret responding to you. People like you create pain, suffering, and chaos, and revel in that. People like you cause permanent physical and psychological damage throughout others’ lives to satisfy your selfish, creepy, unnatural desires, with no remorse. You are scum, and I hope at some point you receive exactly what’s coming to you. eta: this post is aimed at the pedophile, not the people who posted intervening responses. ---
**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/208 "2010-02-07T19:29:41Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > I’m not going to sift through your perverted posts, because reading them makes me want to vomit. Then please refrain from trying to speak authoritatively about something you know nothing about (specifically, the content of my posts, and the views represented therein). > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > You’ve stated your opposition to child porn laws, Yes I have. For various reasons with a number of caveots, but as they stand now, yes, I opose them. > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > and have stated that kiddy fucking laws are drawn at some arbitrary age that you don’t agree with, Not at all the reason I disagree with them. It isn’t that I disagree with where the line is placed, but rather I disagree with the method by which it is drawn. Age is not the metric we actually care about (if we’re being honest with ourselves when we talk about why we don’t want kids having sex). What we care about is whether there is meaningful consent. It makes infinitely more sense to discern if someone is capable of meaningful consent than it does to just throw out a random number and say you can give meaningful consent if the number of birthdays you’ve had is greater than that number. > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > because in your sick mind, there’s an 11 year old somewhere who is consenting to being boned by an old man, and it’s unfair that said old man would be imprisoned for boning said 11 year old. Seems to me profoundly unfair that one party should be imprisoned for fully consensual sex, true, but I’m a bit more concerned about the impact the arrest has on the 11 year old. > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > You also seem to be under the impression that we all have an inner pedophile, and we watch shows and movies where kids are abused because we’re drawn to the idea of children being violated, but we dress it up as outrage. No. We don’t. That’s really only for those people who engage in recreational outrage on this subject. Those who don’t, obviously don’t apply to such statements, and its obvious that such recreational outrage isn’t universal behavior. > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > \*\*You \*\*want to fuck children. In the same sense that I want to own a functional light saber, yes. > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > We don’t. I have acknowledged that being a pedophile puts me in a sexual minority. > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > There \*\*is \*\*something wrong with it. No there isn’t. > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Fuck off heartily. Please be careful about the language. We’ve already had people moderated for doing that. ---
**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/209 "2010-02-07T19:33:31Z")
> [@Kolga](#): > > Thank you for illustrating my point. You’re a disgusting, perverted, pathetic little piece of filth. I knew right after I originally posted that I would regret responding to you. As I said, I don’t really care about the frothing and the flaming. > [@Kolga](#): > > People like you create pain, suffering, and chaos, and revel in that. People like you cause permanent physical and psychological damage throughout others’ lives to satisfy your selfish, creepy, unnatural desires, with no remorse. Pain, suffering, permanent physical damage, permanent psychological damage to who? Are my plain text words really causing you long-term physical pain? What mechanism are my words inflicting chronic conditions on you by? > [@Kolga](#): > > You are scum, and I hope at some point you receive exactly what’s coming to you. > > eta: this post is aimed at the pedophile, not the people who posted intervening responses. One should always be careful about wishing friends or foes get what they deserve, as you occasionally misestimate what said party deserves. ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/210 "2010-02-07T19:35:32Z")
> [@Jump](#): > > Please please PLEASE jump in front of a fucking train. > Save some lies. Jump. You’ve violated the rule quoted below. Don’t do it again. > [@](#): > > Do not threaten harm or wish death on another poster > > Do not threaten another poster with physical harm, or wish for their demise. This includes hypothetical statements like “it would make me happy if someone ran you over” or “I hope you say that to [someone prone to stabbing people] and they stab you”. > **[Revised Forum Rules for the BBQ Pit: read this before posting](https://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=507985)** > > The BBQ Pit is the forum for rants about the outside world or quarrels between posters - often the first turns into the second. Although the standards of discourse are looser than in the other forums, the Pit is NOT a free-for-all - you don’t have to... **Gfactor** Pit Moderator ---
**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/211 "2010-02-07T19:36:36Z")
> [@Cesario](#): > > No it wasn’t. > > On a more general note, I’m fine with you guys venting and frothing and all, but I would appreciate it if you didn’t misrepresent my actions and views. **MeanOldLady** , you’ve been doing a particularly poor job separating what I’ve actually said from what you’d preffer I said because it would fuel your outrage. Since it’s obvious you guys don’t want me to post here, I’m willing to leave the general abuse alone, but I’m not going to ignore misrepresentations and mischaracterizations. Huge mistake calling out M-O-L. She’s going to rip you a new asshole when she sees that. ---
**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/212 "2010-02-07T19:39:47Z")
> [@tacoloco](#): > > Huge mistake calling out M-O-L. > > She’s going to rip you a new asshole when she sees that. It seemed both more productive, and more civil than just addressing each of her many misrepresentations that she’s already made. ---
**Author:** ![LavenderBlue](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e95f7d/32.png) [@LavenderBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LavenderBlue)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/213 "2010-02-07T19:46:15Z")
Truly civilized members of society understand that an 11 year old is incapable of giving consent to sex. Go away **Cesario**. ---
**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/214 "2010-02-07T19:50:10Z")
> [@LavenderBlue](#): > > Truly civilized members of society understand that an 11 year old is incapable of giving consent to sex. > > Go away **Cesario**. What do Scotsmen understand? This whole thing is funny. ---
**Author:** ![MeanOldLady](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/meanoldlady/32/10737_2.png) [@MeanOldLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MeanOldLady)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 7:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/215 "2010-02-07T19:56:45Z")
> [@Cesario](#): > > Then please refrain from trying to speak authoritatively about something you know nothing about (specifically, the content of my posts, and the views represented therein). I didn’t say I haven’t read your posts, I said I’m not going to sift through them. That is, I’m not going to search through your sick shit to point out where you said what you said. > [@](#): > > No there isn’t. Yes. There is. That is the problem, that you do not recognize this. > [@](#): > > Please be careful about the language. We’ve already had people moderated for doing that. I’ll use whatever language I damn well please. Moderate away. When warned, I’ll just be like you, and continue the behavior anyway. So uhh, fuck you, Cesario. edit: **crazyburrito** , i will rip no one anything. I’m done with him. Oh, and **Lavender** , you are correct. There is no such thing as a consenting 11 year old. ---
**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/216 "2010-02-07T20:00:40Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > I didn’t say I haven’t read your posts, I said I’m not going to sift through them. That is, I’m not going to search through your sick shit to point out where you said what you said. The problem is, I haven’t said some of the things you are claiming I have. > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Yes. There is. No there isn’t. > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > That is the problem, that you do not recognize this. I recognise that you believe it to be the case. You just happen to be wrong. > [@MeanOldLady](#): > > I’ll use whatever language I damn well please. Moderate away. When warned, I’ll just be like you, and continue the behavior anyway. So uhh, fuck you, Cesario. Just trying to be helpful. I assumed that the language was a mistake due to getting overly worked up, as it has been with others here. ---
**Author:** ![Pray\_for\_peace](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Pray\_for\_peace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Pray_for_peace)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/217 "2010-02-07T20:08:16Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Yes. There is. > [@Cesario](#): > > No there isn’t. Will that be the 5 minute argument, or the full 30 minutes? ---
**Author:** ![Inner\_Stickler](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inner_stickler/32/318_2.png) [@Inner\_Stickler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inner_Stickler)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/218 "2010-02-07T20:08:39Z")
> [@Bearflag70](#): > > What do Scotsmen understand? > > This whole thing is funny. They understand that quality oatmeal doesn’t need any fucking sugar! Call me crazy but I’m going to go out on a limb and state unequivocably, that if you think having sex with children is morally acceptable, you are not civilized. ---
**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 8:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/219 "2010-02-07T20:12:25Z")
> [@MeanOldLady](#): > > Oh, and **Lavender** , you are correct. There is no such thing as a consenting 11 year old. 11-year-olds? Gimme a break…that’s **Cesario’s** version of a lemon party. But the issue here isn’t whether or not **Cesario** should be allowed to fuck babies and toddlers. The issue here is that **Cesario** is an attention-whoring troll who adores being the center of attention, and knows how to game the system skillfully enough to remain within the rules while pushing people’s buttons and making them lose their shit. Just look how many people have been warned and/or suspended in this thread alone – all because they can’t control themselves when confronted with a person who supposedly likes to fuck babies and toddlers. Frankly, we only have ourselves to blame for giving this pathetic turd far more attention than he deserves. The mature course of action would be to ignore him completely, and wait for him to go away…but obviously, that ship has sailed. Therefore, I recommend that the moderating staff rescind the rules against calling people certain names or wishing death on someone, for the purposes of _this thread only_ – and then, we’ll see how things shake out. ---
**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/220 "2010-02-07T20:14:16Z")
> [@fuzzypickles](#): > > 11-year-olds? Gimme a break…that’s **Cesario’s** version of a lemon party. > > But the issue here isn’t whether or not **Cesario** should be allowed to fuck babies and toddlers. The issue here is that **Cesario** is an attention-whoring troll who adores being the center of attention, and knows how to game the system skillfully enough to remain within the rules while pushing people’s buttons and making them lose their shit. Just look how many people have been warned and/or suspended in this thread alone – all because they can’t control themselves when confronted with a person who supposedly likes to fuck babies and toddlers. > > Frankly, we only have ourselves to blame for giving this pathetic turd far more attention than he deserves. The mature course of action would be to ignore him completely, and wait for him to go away…but obviously, that ship has sailed. Therefore, I recommend that the moderating staff rescind the rules against calling people certain names or wishing death on someone, for the purposes of _this thread only_ – and then, we’ll see how things shake out. Would it be helpful in accomplishing that if I stated that I don’t care about the name-calling or death threats? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954.md?page=12)