# Cesario: shut the fuck up, you gross fucking asshole **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 6, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954 "2010-02-06T22:15:34Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 14
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/261 "2010-02-07T23:53:36Z")
> [@BigT](#): > > Weren’t some people acting like Ed himself won’t let them ban him? [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12086661&postcount=116](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12086661&postcount=116) ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 11:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/262 "2010-02-07T23:55:34Z")
> [@Omegaman](#): > > I’ll bet he or she is balling like a little baby. > > AWWWW Snap!! > > Babies aren’t safe here:smack: But baby molesters are.:rolleyes: Cesario balling little babies – now that’s fighting ignorance, those ignorant babies. ---
**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 12:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/263 "2010-02-08T00:51:56Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > Cesario balling little babies – now that’s fighting ignorance, those ignorant babies. It’s all good. Can’t speak yet? Can’t say a damn thing. Goo Goo? Could mean anything. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/264 "2010-02-08T01:06:08Z")
Must be consent. ---
**Author:** ![Ann\_Onimous](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ea5d25/32.png) [@Ann\_Onimous](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ann_Onimous)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/265 "2010-02-08T01:07:42Z")
> [@Jack\_Batty](#): > > I propose we keep \*\*Cesario \*\*around until half the posters leave because he hasn’t been banned yet, and the other half of the posters all get banned for telling him to go fuck himself. > > Then we can just start from square one. I fall in the first category. I have enough respect for the members of this board not to get myself banned, but I’ve had it. In my mind, this crazy dude is breaking a board rule - discussing illegal activity - and no one seems to be doing anything about it. I realize that I’m not one of the most prolific posters here, and that I won’t be missed: but I can’t sit here and listen (read) this crap. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/266 "2010-02-08T01:29:37Z")
That’s two respected and respectable posters (that I know of) who have left over this guy. Is he worth it? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Bith\_Shuffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@The\_Bith\_Shuffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Bith_Shuffle)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/267 "2010-02-08T01:32:14Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > That’s two respected and respectable posters (that I know of) who have left over this guy. Is he worth it? The moderators think so. They have explicitly stated, by their failure to suspend/ban **Cesario** , that they hate this board and its members. You are not detecting any hints of sarcasm in this post. ---
**Author:** ![Caffeine.addict](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f475e1/32.png) [@Caffeine.addict](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Caffeine.addict)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/268 "2010-02-08T01:35:50Z")
> [@Sarahfeena](#): > > That’s two respected and respectable posters (that I know of) who have left over this guy. Is he worth it? Who else has left. I’m snowed in so I have been following this. I missed his previous threads. ---
**Author:** ![Sarahfeena](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sarahfeena/32/519_2.png) [@Sarahfeena](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sarahfeena)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/269 "2010-02-08T01:45:14Z")
This is the post **Jodi** made here most recently, on October 27. It’s from the thread [Cesario, you’re awfully sanctimonious for a pedophile](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?p=11637897#post11637897). [QUOTE=Jodi] [QUOTE=MrDibble] Nope, I’m reading the one where most posters have called him names, asked for his and the topic’s banning, and threatened him with violence. Very few posters have been respectful - say 10 or so. [/QUOTE] “10 or so” being pretty much the definition of “several,” correct. [/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Jodi] [QUOTE=MrDibble] If the topic isn’t closed, it seems there are already people on your side (MikeG, for instance) who won’t - at least, as Dopers. Door, ass, you know the drill… [/QUOTE] I do in fact know the drill, which is why, as I’ve said, I am very interested in how this turns out. This isn’t an instance of, as Groucho Marx said, not wanting to be part of a club that would have me for a member, but it is potentially an instance of having the club suddenly become one I would not want to be in. So yeah, I’m very interested in how this turns out. As for the implication of how much you’ll personally miss me: Right back atcha, Peaches. I’m going to work. [/QUOTE] [Here’s](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11637897&postcount=512) a link directly to the above-quoted post. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 1:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/270 "2010-02-08T01:59:49Z")
I can’t believe that out of 7 pages of this thread, I’m the first to LMAO at the two people on the first page posting stuff to fuck with Google searches for pedophilia by putting Ed Zotti and SDMB in the same sentence with pedophilia repeatedly. ---
**Author:** ![Carmady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/f04885/32.png) [@Carmady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carmady)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/271 "2010-02-08T02:07:56Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > Oh, dear. Please forgive me. See, I kind of thought when you said that there was a comment that could be made about finding virgins and the other poster had said something about the age of 18, that [the guy who would consider a 6-year-old going down on him a \*\*rare opportunity for a guilt-free sexual encounter with a prepubescent girl \*\* and nothing to put a stop to](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11564485&postcount=55) might just be talking about how much easier it is to find a child virgin. Trying to rationalize why Cesario should not be banned for the post in that link. Can’t do it. There is no “I wouldn’t do it until it is legal” there. Just a blatant statement that given the opportunity he will commit a horrendous crime and not feel guilty about it. ---
**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 3:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/272 "2010-02-08T03:08:37Z")
> [@Juliana](#): > > I fall in the first category. I have enough respect for the members of this board not to get myself banned, but I’ve had it. In my mind, this crazy dude is breaking a board rule - discussing illegal activity - and no one seems to be doing anything about it. I realize that I’m not one of the most prolific posters here, and that I won’t be missed: but I can’t sit here and listen (read) this crap. See, normally I’d consider myself in the first category as well. I also have always found suicide-by-mod to be self-indulgent, silly, attention-seeking. Now, however, I find myself completely understanding (and experiencing) the conflict that arises when the desire to abide by the rules and just go quietly is outweighed by fury and the need to be very explicit about what one thinks of this situation. Like you, I don’t think I’d be terribly missed, and my participation here has waned a lot until this weekend. But the itch to just go off on the people I think are being fucking ridiculous here is strong. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/273 "2010-02-08T03:16:05Z")
Never fear…the mods are either colluding on this issue or getting ready to make some serious justifications, so…it’ll be fun either way. ---
**Author:** ![Auntbeast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Auntbeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Auntbeast)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/274 "2010-02-08T03:21:23Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I can’t believe that out of 7 pages of this thread, I’m the first to LMAO at the two people on the first page posting stuff to fuck with Google searches for pedophilia by putting Ed Zotti and SDMB in the same sentence with pedophilia repeatedly. I caught that too, can’t say it bothered me one little bit. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 3:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/275 "2010-02-08T03:27:31Z")
> [@Drain\_Bead](#): > > I can’t believe that out of 7 pages of this thread, I’m the first to LMAO at the two people on the first page posting stuff to fuck with Google searches for pedophilia by putting Ed Zotti and SDMB in the same sentence with pedophilia repeatedly. Well I guess that proves Marley’s point that I am dense, for Google searches never once crossed my mind. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 3:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/276 "2010-02-08T03:28:58Z")
> [@FoieGrasIsEvil](#): > > Never fear…the mods are either colluding on this issue or getting ready to make some serious justifications, so…it’ll be fun either way. It’s Ed Zotti’s decision. [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12086661&postcount=116](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12086661&postcount=116) ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/277 "2010-02-08T03:33:54Z")
> [@](#): > > Never fear…the mods are either colluding on this issue or getting ready to make some serious justifications, so…it’ll be fun either way. My guess is that the administration is actually taking a pause to think. I’d be willing to bet there are some very active discussions going on right now and there will be a policy announcement in the next couple of days. And I think we can assume no children will be abused due to this delay. Seriously, people, get a grip. This is an online message board. Cesario is not going to reach out through the internet and touch anybody. All he can do here is be extremely unpleasant. The administration will decide if that is or should be made into a violation of board policy. ---
**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/278 "2010-02-08T03:42:53Z")
I don’t think anyone is over reacting. I don’t see calls for molten tar etc. I see some frustrated people who feel they are not being heard by the Mods or Mr Zotti. I also see some people who are frustrated because the Ask A thread has become so controversial. Don’t confuse snark and snide remarks for actual intent to harm… Oh, never mind; I forgot where I was for a minute. ---
**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/279 "2010-02-08T04:26:03Z")
> [@koeeoaddi](#): > > **Cesario** , please reread this, and before you post, please read it again. If you think that’s strictly necessary: > [@Auntbeast](#): > > I have missed reading his threads, and out of curiosity checked some of his posts. > > Let me tell him this: For the record, I did read this the first time through. > [@Auntbeast](#): > > I was molested as a child. I’m sorry to hear that. > [@Auntbeast](#): > > Your thoughts are wrong. Are you clear on what my thoughts are, or are you just going by the rumors and hearsay that have been circulating in light of this most recent flare-up? > [@Auntbeast](#): > > No child wants you in the way you think they do. Not one. You are incorrect in your assumption that I think there is any particular child that wants me like that. I don’t. In fact, I’ve deliberately avoided maintaining long-term contact with kids specifically to avoid feelings of that sort developing. > [@Auntbeast](#): > > What you think is happening is not what is happening. What is happening is your desires are modifying your logic, your thought, your perceptions. Again, where are you getting your ideas of what I’m thinking? > [@Auntbeast](#): > > The only thing happening in a childs mind is “wow, this person is cool.” Hardly the “only thing happening”. Kids aren’t that simpleminded, even if that happens to be the most prominent thought at the time. > [@Auntbeast](#): > > OR “this person is an adult, I am a kid, I’ll get in trouble.” While I assume you’re talking about “I’ll get in trouble from this adult”, I initially read that as “I’ll get in trouble with other adults because they don’t like what I want to do with this adult”, which is also a possibility whether you choose to acknowledge it or not. Both are concerning thought-patterns, mind you. > [@Auntbeast](#): > > Your mind is not right. Not even a little. There is really no need to respond to the stuff that’s just contentless insults. > [@Auntbeast](#): > > You should never talk to a child. Ever. Seems like the kids in my karate class would not be particularly benefited if I suddenly stopped correcting their techniques and explaining their katas. > [@Auntbeast](#): > > That conversation you had with the 4 year old? If the mother had any idea what was going through your head, you would not have been within 20 miles of that child. Nor would any other responsible parent. Responsible parents, by definition, can tell the difference between thoughts and actions. > [@Auntbeast](#): > > I don’t know where you go that validates the things you are thinking, but they are wrong. Very, very wrong. I’ve thankfully grown past the need for external validation on this one. I am grateful for the people who helped me during that dark time in my life, however. > [@Auntbeast](#): > > Of all the children that my father molested, not one of them liked it, not one of them wanted it, not one of them was not scarred by it. As I’ve asked in the past. If what had happened to you then occurred again now that you are an adult, would that be considered perfectly acceptable? It seems to me what you are describing would have been rape even if there had been no such thing as an age of consent. > [@Auntbeast](#): > > You can not truly care about children (which I assume you tell yourself you do) if you are in any way thinking that having ANY sexual contact/conversation is not harmful. I think this reflects more a failure of imagination on your part than anything inherent in the subject. > [@Auntbeast](#): > > Those thoughts that excite you, destroy psyches, destroy healthy relationships, destroy marriages, destroys sense of self, self-respect, autonomy, but mostly, it destroys a persons ability to make sense of this world. Wow, my psychic powers have developed much farther than I’d ever imagined. And to think, there was a time I couldn’t even bend a spoon. > [@Auntbeast](#): > > Your desires are warping your mind. Speaking as a former child, I assure you, it is very, very wrong. It is harmful. Stop. Get help. Speaking as a former child myself, I assure you, thoughts aren’t actions. > [@Auntbeast](#): > > I know the things you tell yourself to make it ok. Those things were told to me when I was a child to try to make it ok to me. It didn’t. I was just too powerless, too afraid. It is not ok. Once again, this isn’t about what I’ve been describing. What you are describing would still be classified as rape even if all the laws were instantly restructured to be exactly what how I’ve been advocating they be changed. > [@Kolga](#): > > He’s read it. It won’t matter. That damage is EXACTLY what sexually excites him. I keep seeing that assumption, and I still have no idea where you people are getting this crap from. If I didn’t care about avoiding harm to kids, I would be having sex with them already. ---
**Author:** ![Cesario](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ecae2f/32.png) [@Cesario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cesario)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/280 "2010-02-08T04:27:51Z")
> [@lorene](#): > > Oh, dear. Please forgive me. See, I kind of thought when you said that there was a comment that could be made about finding virgins and the other poster had said something about the age of 18, that [the guy who would consider a 6-year-old going down on him a \*\*rare opportunity for a guilt-free sexual encounter with a prepubescent girl \*\* and nothing to put a stop to](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=11564485&postcount=55) might just be talking about how much easier it is to find a child virgin. > > My bad. Sorry. The comment was actually that he might want to consider the implications about his obsessive desire to find a virgin coupled with his conviction that there weren’t any over eighteen years old. At least, that was the intent. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954.md?page=13) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954.md?page=15)