# Cesario:  shut the fuck up, you gross fucking asshole

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 6, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954 "2010-02-06T22:15:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 13\
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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 7:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/301 "2010-02-08T07:48:10Z")

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> [@ajb867](#):
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> The SDMB where the moderators and administration will come to the defense of a pedophile who would like to fuck five year olds! Even in a forum where you are supposed to be able to vent how disgusting said behavior actually is.

**Czarcasm** is right in enforcing the rule he was given, IMHO.

“Attempts by other users to provoke Cesario into breaking this rule, or to make comments about him to which he cannot respond, will also not be tolerated.”

Vent, don’t bait.

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**Author:** ![ajb867](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/f14d63/32.png) [@ajb867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ajb867)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/302 "2010-02-08T07:56:57Z")

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Not even taking in to account how fucked up Cesario’s view point is, why is the administration going out of their way to protect Cesario from other posters? Someone else can just come in and pick up where he left off ad nauseam. Also his previous posts are not going to be deleted and now can’t even be disputed for the garbage that it is.

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 8:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/303 "2010-02-08T08:08:37Z")

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> [@ajb867](#):
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> Not even taking in to account how fucked up Cesario’s view point is, why is the administration going out of their way to protect Cesario from other posters? Someone else can just come in and pick up where he left off ad nauseam. Also his previous posts are not going to be deleted and now can’t even be disputed for the garbage that it is.

I guess that’s the trade-off. He’s been handcuffed like the community wanted but is now defenseless. His posts have been attacked already. His ideas are still open for challenge in the abstract, I assume.

If someone else picks up where he left off, without the same posting pattern that got him in trouble, I guess that person would be fair game.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 8:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/304 "2010-02-08T08:12:32Z")

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> [@ajb867](#):
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> Not even taking in to account how fucked up Cesario’s view point is, why is the administration going out of their way to protect Cesario from other posters? Someone else can just come in and pick up where he left off ad nauseam. Also his previous posts are not going to be deleted and now can’t even be disputed for the garbage that it is.

Because if they don’t, then someone would provoke Cesario at some point, starting yet another bruhaha. I think it’s just based on experience, as I seem to remember a big mess about people being provoked.

As for Cesario not being banned? I think it’s because, in the ATMB thread, they just got through saying that nobody had been banned for the rule that is being invoked. And, honestly, if Cesario can shut up about his favorite subject, I think most of us would be happy. And, if he can’t, we get to see him banned without contradicting the mods or the mess of the free speech issue.

I’m actually pretty happy about the ruling. It’s about the best compromise possible that doesn’t make the mods look like they are bowing to mob rule, but are still taking our views into account.

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**Author:** ![spinky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/59ef9b/32.png) [@spinky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/spinky)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/305 "2010-02-08T08:21:31Z")

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Fuck you, Cesario.

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 8:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/306 "2010-02-08T08:22:37Z")

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> [@The\_Bith\_Shuffle](#):
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> If it is no longer allowed for us to provoke **Cesario** , I think this thread should be closed immediately.

Not a bad idea.

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/307 "2010-02-08T08:30:59Z")

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> [@The\_Bith\_Shuffle](#):
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> _I didn’t want this image. I do not ever want to have mental images like this. And the thread never called for you to share this thought._
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> Imagine if I had burst into that thread and just randomly shared the fact that I would love to wake up with a leopard licking my nuts. Would that have been appropriate? No.
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> What if I had made a comment like that in a thread for no good reason?

Just posting to note that it wasn’t \*\*Cesario \*\*who brought up six-year olds in that thread, it was **aldibironti**. Not that that changes whether \*\*Cesario \*\*should have replied or not, just saying it wasn’t a random, out-of-the-blue thing.

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**Author:** ![The\_Bith\_Shuffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@The\_Bith\_Shuffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Bith_Shuffle)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 8:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/308 "2010-02-08T08:59:28Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Just posting to note that it wasn’t \*\*Cesario \*\*who brought up six-year olds in that thread, it was **aldibironti**. Not that that changes whether \*\*Cesario \*\*should have replied or not, just saying it wasn’t a random, out-of-the-blue thing.

With **aldibironti** , the image was of him finding himself being pleasured by a tiny girl and immediately rebuking her. Still not a great image, of course, but just not nearly as disturbing. And the transition between the two images was not warranted.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 10:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/309 "2010-02-08T10:26:41Z")

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[QUOTE=Ed Zotti]  
4. Having reviewed Cesario’s postings and compared notes, we now realize how frequently he posts about his sexual inclinations.  
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You’ve got to be fucking kidding me. This has been going on for months, and people have been complaining about it for months.

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**Author:** ![BigT](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bigt/32/12044_2.png) [@BigT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BigT)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 10:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/310 "2010-02-08T10:33:10Z")

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> [@Contrapuntal](#):
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> You’ve got to be fucking kidding me. This has been going on for months, and people have been complaining about it for months.

We means HE. You think Zotti pays any attention to the board?

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**Author:** ![lorene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/65b543/32.png) [@lorene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lorene)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 11:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/311 "2010-02-08T11:01:34Z")

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> [@MrDibble](#):
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> Just posting to note that it wasn’t \*\*Cesario \*\*who brought up six-year olds in that thread, it was **aldibironti**. Not that that changes whether \*\*Cesario \*\*should have replied or not, just saying it wasn’t a random, out-of-the-blue thing.

> [@The\_Bith\_Shuffle](#):
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> With **aldibironti** , the image was of him finding himself being pleasured by a tiny girl and immediately rebuking her. Still not a great image, of course, but just not nearly as disturbing. And the transition between the two images was not warranted.

Right, and one of my concerns is that it is not that farfetched for a child who has been sexually abused to initiate sexual contact with adults because s/he believes that is what makes them loved or even tolerated. A child doing that would benefit greatly from someone stopping them immediately and explaining why it wasn’t necessary/healthy/appropriate. Not allowing it to continue to satisfaction, then saying, “Oh, by the way, you really should ask next time.”

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**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 11:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/312 "2010-02-08T11:11:59Z")

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> [@The\_Bith\_Shuffle](#):
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> With **aldibironti** , the image was of him finding himself being pleasured by a tiny girl and immediately rebuking her. Still not a great image, of course, but just not nearly as disturbing. And the transition between the two images was not warranted.

Warranted or not, it \*was \*a response, not a completely random _non sequitur_, which is what you intimated with your use of the words “just randomly”, “for no good reason”, etc.

This is what I mean. **Cesario** ’s actual paraphilia is bad enough, I think, without people needing to do shit like this, all it does is give him some semblance of moral high ground. Yes, a molehill in comparison to Mt. “Kiddiefucker”, but still - if people really cared as much as they say about not having him around, disingeneously demonizing him isn’t going to earn \*my \*sympathy for your cause. Not that you need my sympathy, it seems the Board is fairly one-sided on this Ban the Paedo crusade y’all are on. I think I can count the opposition on one hand, if that mattered to TPTB.

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**Author:** ![xash](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/c6cbf5/32.png) [@xash](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/xash)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2010, 12:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/313 "2010-02-08T12:20:16Z")

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Based on Ed’s response in the ATMB thread, I am closing this thread.

[http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12090763&postcount=347](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showpost.php?p=12090763&postcount=347)

Specifically:

> [@](#):
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> 1. Having reviewed Cesario’s postings and compared notes, we now realize how frequently he posts about his sexual inclinations. Our rules state, “The board is not intended to furnish you with a forum for promoting your personal agenda. We reserve the right to ask you to limit postings on a particular topic, or to refrain from posting on such topics altogether.” **We’re now invoking this rule: We don’t want to see any further discussion from Cesario about pedophilia. Attempts by other users to provoke Cesario into breaking this rule, or to make comments about him to which he cannot respond, will also not be tolerated. Thank you for your cooperation.**

Bolding mine.

- **xash**  
Administrator

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