# Cesario:  shut the fuck up, you gross fucking asshole

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 6, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954 "2010-02-06T22:15:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![CaerieD](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/da6949/32.png) [@CaerieD](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CaerieD)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/21 "2010-02-06T23:56:43Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Why does he need to talk about it at all? I’m an avid gardener; I love everything about it, but I have no problem not talking about it in other threads, even though I have no dedicated “Ask the avid gardener” thread.

If we silence the pedophiles, then only the pedophiles will be silent! Or something.

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 11:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/22 "2010-02-06T23:57:34Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> You already expressed your opposition to that viewpoint, in the other thread in ATMB. A civil and reasonable thread. Did you really need to do exactly the same thing here, except with a dirty word thrown in?

Yes I did. As far as I’m concerned, you and other Cesario thread defenders need to take a careful look at what it is you’re  
actually defending.

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**Author:** ![FinnAgain](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/finnagain/32/12500_2.png) [@FinnAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FinnAgain)\
**Post date:** [February 6, 2010, 11:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/23 "2010-02-06T23:58:20Z")

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He can go post on NAMBLA’s whatevers. While an “ask the ashamed, in-treatment pedophile” might be something of an interesting thread, I guess… “ask the unrepentant pedophile who wants the law changed so he can get down to the business of raping kids” is not something we should be providing a forum for.

The very fact that he ardently wants to share his proud sickness with the community, to the point of bringing it up in totally unrelated threads, is not a reason why we should indulge him and give him his own soapbox. It’s a reason to shut him the fuck up.

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**Author:** ![SmartAleq](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/smartaleq/32/163_2.png) [@SmartAleq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SmartAleq)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/24 "2010-02-07T00:02:52Z")

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All I have to say is that if TPTB let this nasty individual continue on his merry way, especially if they allow him his own little fapfest, that every person who reads this board who is also a mandatory reporter get on the stick and inform law enforcement that there’s a venue that is encouraging his behavior. Nasty perverts may have First Amendment rights but companies have personhood as well, apparently, and can be held accountable for the behavior they enable.

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**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/25 "2010-02-07T00:07:21Z")

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At last, a use for the “ignore” function! Never had a reason to invoke it before. Bye, bye **Cesario**!

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**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/26 "2010-02-07T00:25:09Z")

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I can’t see anything it says because I have it on ignore. But obviously it’s up to it’s old bullshit again. I think it needs to fuck off and die.

My comment is for the people who so strongly want to read a thread like that. I just have to wonder what you would hope to get out of it. Are you really hoping to be educated about just what a kiddy-fucker does or what? I don’t understand why someone would want to read the details unless it was for another reason.

Let me help you out with the details. Look up circular vaginal tears. Look up infertility due to childhood sexual abuse. Look up anal fissures. I can also tell you all about the lies they tell children, how they manipulate them into doing what they want.

So that’s pretty much it, they manipulate children and molest them. What else do you need to know?

If even once cefuckio had said “I’m sick, I need help. How can I get better?” I would be ok with him talking about his sickness. He doesn’t want to do that. He wants to talk about how good it is and how really, toddlers want to give consent.

How does he think a baby gives consent? If a baby is crying with a wide open mouth, does he think that means “please shove your cock in here”?

I am not well known around here and nobody would give a shit or even notice if I left. But to be really honest, if giving him a soapbox under the guise of free speech, is something that’s acceptable here, I don’t know if I want to be here any longer.

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**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/27 "2010-02-07T00:27:58Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> As far as I’m concerned, you and other Cesario thread defenders need to take a careful look at what it is you’re actually defending.

Ditto this.

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**Author:** ![Sapo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ec9cab/32.png) [@Sapo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sapo)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/28 "2010-02-07T00:31:03Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> Yes I did. As far as I’m concerned, you and other Cesario thread defenders need to take a careful look at what it is you’re  
> actually defending.

I don’t think anyone is defending Cesario :checks forum:, he is just a troll. What I think some people are defending is the right to have civil discussions of any topic no matter how icky or unpopular they might be.

If I oppose Cesario’s proposed thread, is not because it is about pedophilia but because it won’t be a civil dialog but just a chance to pump out his already well covered ideals.

And I definitely oppose the idea that a thread should be disallowed because it will turn into a lynching mob. The mods should be extremely vigilant and quick to punish those who will jump to flame an unpopular opinion, no matter how fucked up that opinion might be.

Popular positions don’t need defending, the majority rules take care of that. It is minorities and eccentric positions that need defending.

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**Author:** ![The\_Bith\_Shuffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ce73a5/32.png) [@The\_Bith\_Shuffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Bith_Shuffle)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/29 "2010-02-07T00:33:33Z")

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**Cesario** has said some things that make me wretch. I remember reading him say something to the effect of “since I’m a strictly heterosexual pedophile, I can testify that there _are_ large differences at that stage in life”. I mean, wow…

I don’t know if there is any way of removing a pedophile’s pedophilic sexual desires without just removing his/her sexual desires completely. But even then, **Cesario** should try to get himself chemically castrated, big time.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/30 "2010-02-07T00:33:38Z")

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> [@Argent\_Towers](#):
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> I think that is appropriate. Although, if he had _one_ thread where he could talk about it, I wouldn’t really see a problem. Others could choose to view it or not view it, as they pleased.

And one could live in a house with a pile of horseshit in the living room and one could choose whether to wallow in it or not as they pleased.

Or one could keep the pile of horseshit out.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/31 "2010-02-07T00:40:46Z")

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> [@FloatyGimpy](#):
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> But to be really honest, if giving him a soapbox under the guise of free speech, is something that’s acceptable here, I don’t know if I want to be here any longer.

I wonder how many people have left due to Cesario? I know of at least one long-time and respected SDMB member who left specifically because of the SDMB permitting Cesario to post on pedophilia.

It’s a great pity that the SDMB permits Cesario to go on about pedophilia.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/32 "2010-02-07T00:42:40Z")

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> [@raindog](#):
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> [A poll on Cesario’s ATMB request.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=551063)

Well that didn’t last very long. I am continually amazed at the rope this guy is given. Why is it that the mods keep reminding us of the “we can ban you far any reason or no reason at all” clause when this creep who just screams for dismissal keeps getting protected?

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/33 "2010-02-07T00:44:12Z")

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If I had the shit running through my head that you do **Ceasario** , I’d lick my 38 in a heartbeat. I’m pretty fucked in the head, so I don’t have a lot of room to talk, but as a human being you’ve got to have some kind of limitations.

I mean what the fuck snapperhead? You so out of control you need to be caged?

Get some fucking help.

Oh, and if none’s available I’ll loan you my cap gun.:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/f475e1/32.png) [@Jimmy\_Chitwood](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jimmy_Chitwood)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/34 "2010-02-07T00:45:26Z")

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> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> All I have to say is that if TPTB let this nasty individual continue on his merry way, especially if they allow him his own little fapfest, that every person who reads this board who is also a mandatory reporter get on the stick and inform law enforcement that there’s a venue that is encouraging his behavior. Nasty perverts may have First Amendment rights but companies have personhood as well, apparently, and can be held accountable for the behavior they enable.

Encouraging what behavior?

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/35 "2010-02-07T00:46:44Z")

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> [@SmartAleq](#):
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> All I have to say is that if TPTB let this nasty individual continue on his merry way, especially if they allow him his own little fapfest, that every person who reads this board who is also a mandatory reporter get on the stick and inform law enforcement that there’s a venue that is encouraging his behavior. Nasty perverts may have First Amendment rights but companies have personhood as well, apparently, and can be held accountable for the behavior they enable.

From the registration agreement:

> [@](#):
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> Do not post spam, including but not limited to advertisements, chain letters, pyramid schemes, solicitations, offers to trade or barter, charitable appeals, or other messages primarily intended to promote a cause, venture, organization, event (except Straight Dope-related events), website, or other entity or activity, whether or not money is involved.

No warning issued, but please don’t do this. I’ll note in passing that while I disagree with your legal interpretation, you know what the staff thinks of posts that could bring legal difficulties for the board. Please be more careful in the future.

Also I’ll point out that you’re giving **Cesario** more attention. If I wasn’t a moderator here I’d be ignoring the shit out of this guy.

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**Author:** ![Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/f4b2a3/32.png) [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Don_t_Call_Me_Shirley)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/36 "2010-02-07T00:47:20Z")

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I know a lot of pedophiles. I have my doubts as to whether Cesario really is one. I think it’s more likely he’s just a troll.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/37 "2010-02-07T00:48:59Z")

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> [@raindog](#):
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> [A poll on Cesario’s ATMB request.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=551063)

That was closed immediately. Why am I not surprised. :dubious:

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/38 "2010-02-07T00:52:50Z")

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> [@Don\_t\_Call\_Me\_Shirley](#):
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> I know a lot of pedophiles. I have my doubts as to whether Cesario really is one. I think it’s more likely he’s just a troll.

I fucking hope so. Having seen that shit first hand I’d risk a lenthy prison sentance to put a stop to it.

You have a whole of a lot more control than me sir.

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**Author:** ![Czarcasm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/czarcasm/32/4050_2.png) [@Czarcasm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Czarcasm)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/39 "2010-02-07T00:53:05Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> That was closed immediately. Why am I not surprised. :dubious:

Because there are already threads on this subject in ATMB _and_ The BBQ Pit _as I clearly stated when I closed that thread._

“The Moderators won’t let me post on the same subject in every forum-I’m being repressed!”

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/40 "2010-02-07T00:54:22Z")

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> [@Marley23](#):
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> From the registration agreement:
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> No warning issued, but please don’t do this. I’ll note in passing that while I disagree with your legal interpretation, you know what the staff thinks of posts that could bring legal difficulties for the board. Please be more careful in the future.
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> Also I’ll point out that you’re giving **Cesario** more attention. If I wasn’t a moderator here I’d be ignoring the shit out of this guy.

Marley23, you should not pressure posters into ignoring whatever reporting requirements they are professionaly bound by.

If you think that the SDMB is doing nothing that is reportable, then there is and will be no legal problem, so your note is moot.

If the SDMB is doing something that is reportable, then I suggest that you correct your ways, rather than try to squelch people pointing it out.

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