# Cesario:  shut the fuck up, you gross fucking asshole

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [February 6, 2010, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954 "2010-02-06T22:15:34Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/61 "2010-02-07T02:29:39Z")

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> [@tacoloco](#):
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> :rolleyes:
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> Except that pesky part about getting an actual objective idea of for/against.
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> Way to go.

+1

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**Author:** ![tacoloco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@tacoloco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tacoloco)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 2:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/62 "2010-02-07T02:30:36Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> OK, calling a person a motherfucker is not permitted. Is occasionally calling the pedophile a kiddie-fucker in an otherwise non-vulgar post permitted in the pit?

Yes, apparently.

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**Author:** ![raindog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@raindog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/raindog)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 2:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/63 "2010-02-07T02:33:29Z")

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> [@Czarcasm](#):
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> It added nothing that wasn’t already in the other threads, period.  
> Well, except for one thing of course: You managed to put his name in the title of yet another thread.
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> Way to go.

There was a poll in one of those 2 threads? I must have missed it.

The poll was doing exactly what it was designed to do. I’m at a loss as to why that isn’t clear to you.

It wasn’t redundant.

It wasn’t out of control.

There was no overlap.

It offered a specific feedback loop for the community’s feelings.

In the end, I think it would have helped. There was no reason to close it.

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**Author:** ![StusBlues](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/dc4da7/32.png) [@StusBlues](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/StusBlues)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 2:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/64 "2010-02-07T02:47:03Z")

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> [@Skald\_the\_Rhymer](#):
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> I predict that soon he will compare remarks such as this with the prohibition on gays serving in the military.
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> I’d just as leave ignore him myself.

True, though it may be instructive to compile a list of SDMB regulars who defend this person. They then may be pitted for defending pedophiles.

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**Author:** ![ZPG\_Zealot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/e47c2d/32.png) [@ZPG\_Zealot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZPG_Zealot)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/65 "2010-02-07T03:01:54Z")

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Donning asbestos. I would actually like to interview Cesario and some real have acted on those urges convicted pediophiles. I think in order to combat the problem it’s necessary to study how their minds work. And I would like to know the mechanics of their maniupulations, if I could get someone to be that candid, because I think it would be useful for teaching people, especially children that are potential targets of the manipulation, how to defend themselves mentally.

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**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/66 "2010-02-07T03:13:25Z")

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You, along with Dr. Phil and Jerry Springer.

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**Author:** ![Auntbeast](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5f9b8f/32.png) [@Auntbeast](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Auntbeast)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/67 "2010-02-07T03:14:08Z")

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I have missed reading his threads, and out of curiosity checked some of his posts.

Let me tell him this:

I was molested as a child. Your thoughts are wrong. No child wants you in the way you think they do. Not one. What you think is happening is not what is happening. What is happening is your desires are modifying your logic, your thought, your perceptions. The only thing happening in a childs mind is “wow, this person is cool.” OR “this person is an adult, I am a kid, I’ll get in trouble.”

Your mind is not right. Not even a little. You should never talk to a child. Ever. That conversation you had with the 4 year old? If the mother had any idea what was going through your head, you would not have been within 20 miles of that child. Nor would any other responsible parent.

I don’t know where you go that validates the things you are thinking, but they are wrong. Very, very wrong. Of all the children that my father molested, not one of them liked it, not one of them wanted it, not one of them was not scarred by it.

You can not truly care about children (which I assume you tell yourself you do) if you are in any way thinking that having ANY sexual contact/conversation is not harmful. Those thoughts that excite you, destroy psyches, destroy healthy relationships, destroy marriages, destroys sense of self, self-respect, autonomy, but mostly, it destroys a persons ability to make sense of this world.

Your desires are warping your mind. Speaking as a former child, I assure you, it is very, very wrong. It is harmful. Stop. Get help.

I know the things you tell yourself to make it ok. Those things were told to me when I was a child to try to make it ok to me. It didn’t. I was just too powerless, too afraid. It is not ok.

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**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/68 "2010-02-07T03:17:42Z")

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> [@ZPG\_Zealot](#):
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> Donning asbestos. I would actually like to interview Cesario and some real have acted on those urges convicted pediophiles. .

I have no idea what this means.

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/69 "2010-02-07T03:19:50Z")

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Didn’t he used to be **Stage Manager**? Admittedly, I have trouble keeping my pedos straight.

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**Author:** ![HongKongFooey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c4cdca/32.png) [@HongKongFooey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HongKongFooey)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/70 "2010-02-07T03:21:08Z")

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> [@FloatyGimpy](#):
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> I have no idea what this means.

I think he meant.

> [@](#):
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> Donning asbestos. I would actually like to interview Cesario and some real have-acted-on-those-urges-convicted pediophiles.

The asbestos being for the resulting flaming.

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**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/71 "2010-02-07T03:21:39Z")

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No, different pedo. This one’s much worse. Even **Stage Manager** wasn’t into babies, nor did he post about his attractions on the board.

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**Author:** ![eleanorigby](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee7513/32.png) [@eleanorigby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/eleanorigby)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/72 "2010-02-07T03:21:48Z")

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Jesus, **Aunt Beast.** ☹  
I cite her post as proof positive that there is no rationalization strong enough to provide support for **Cesario** to continue to tout his desires here. This is not a case of censorship; a message board dedicated to fighting ignorance is not the appropriate forum for perpetuating delusions such as his. The SDMB cannot serve as a therapist or counselor or advocate (or mob) for him. Why he is allowed to continue to spew escapes me, but so many of the more recent rules also confound me.

Sharing your desire to molest children is ok, but calling someone a motherfucker is taboo. How’s that again? :dubious:

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**Author:** ![FloatyGimpy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/floatygimpy/32/7750_2.png) [@FloatyGimpy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FloatyGimpy)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/73 "2010-02-07T03:35:29Z")

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> [@HongKongFooey](#):
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> I think he meant.
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> The asbestos being for the resulting flaming.

Ah, thank you.

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**Author:** ![Harmonious\_Discord](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/74df32/32.png) [@Harmonious\_Discord](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harmonious_Discord)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/74 "2010-02-07T03:41:27Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> Sharing your desire to molest children is ok, but calling someone a motherfucker is taboo. How’s that again? :dubious:

Damn you said that so nicely.

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**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/75 "2010-02-07T03:43:08Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> Why does he need to talk about it at all? I’m an avid gardener; I love everything about it, but I have no problem not talking about it in other threads, even though I have no dedicated “Ask the avid gardener” thread.

I struggle with this constantly.

Why, in the current U-boat thread, I had difficulty not bringing up the hardship U-boat men faced in not being able to grow hanging plants in their bunks. In the control room, the light was typically too dim for even Aglaonema to survive, and…

Alright, I’ll shut up.

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/76 "2010-02-07T03:59:52Z")

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I’ve had experience dealing with a number of pedophiles and I’ve found that they often feel compelled to talk about it. Even in situations where it puts them in danger.

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**Author:** ![don\_t\_ask](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e68b1a/32.png) [@don\_t\_ask](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/don_t_ask)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/77 "2010-02-07T04:04:49Z")

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> [@Guinastasia](#):
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> IIRC, there was at least one poster who believed his bullshit about being a “celibate pedo”, and stated that he would trust **Cesario** to babyshit his kids.

Well only if you want someone to babyshit your kids.

Worst.typo.ever.

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**Author:** ![Trepa\_Mayfield](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/edb3f5/32.png) [@Trepa\_Mayfield](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trepa_Mayfield)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/78 "2010-02-07T04:27:29Z")

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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/79 "2010-02-07T04:38:47Z")

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> [@eleanorigby](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> Sharing your desire to molest children is ok, but calling someone a motherfucker is taboo. How’s that again? :dubious:

I don’t understand it either, but there are things I just have to ignore if I want to post here.

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**Author:** ![Omegaman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/e480ec/32.png) [@Omegaman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omegaman)\
**Post date:** [February 7, 2010, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-shut-the-fuck-up-you-gross-fucking-asshole/527954/80 "2010-02-07T04:52:34Z")

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> [@Muffin](#):
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> OK, calling a person a motherfucker is not permitted. Is occasionally calling the pedophile a kiddie-fucker in an otherwise non-vulgar post permitted in the pit?

Ain’t that just the cats meow.

OH HELL NO!

One wouldn’t want to offend the tender sensibilities of a CHILD MOLESTER but let’s not have any foul language.

UN F’N Unbielevable.

No wonder **Girrafe** started his own board.

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