# Cesario, you're awfully sanctimonious for a pedophile **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 29, 2009, 2:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973 "2009-09-29T14:48:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 13
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/241 "2009-10-01T13:30:38Z")
> [@](#): > > That’s unpleasant, but hardly the worst of it. Need I point out the number of people out for my blood just for the crime of existing? That’s a fair point. That would suck. > [@](#): > > Regardless of your daughter’s feelings on the matter? Well I think the point you are missing here is. 1. My daughter wouldn’t understand what sex is, so there’s no real way she’d want to have sex with you because she doesn’t know what it is. 2. I’d be willing to bet that in 100% of cases where the child is into you they will be traumatized by the experience. 3. Your penis is as large as a child’s forearm, so you would cause actual physical trauma for certain. The emotional trauma would be a necessary byproduct of the child having their vagina/anus torn open. People in general, not just children are traumatized by excruciating pain. If you were doing it out of love you wouldn’t do it at all because you wouldn’t want to cause the child pain, even if they wanted it. So yes, I am certain there is no such thing as a child wanting it, because they don’t know what is coming. Lots of adults who lose their virginity are traumatized by regrets, let alone children. They like your attention and affection, but you are conflating that with a sexual impulse that simply isn’t there. They want to hug, not fuck. > [@](#): > > I respectfully disagree. You fundamentally do not understand children and their actual motivations. Children are highly sensual creatures. This can be easily mistaken for sexuality. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/242 "2009-10-01T13:53:27Z")
> [@Cesario](#): > > So you don’t think it’s bad that people keep assuming it’s a statutory rape instead of the actual rape it really was? No one would be defending it if they didn’t assume it was a statutory rape. I think it’s good that people keep being reminded that his victim was a child. It is relevant that his victim was a child. > [@](#): > > Not familiar with that drug. Can you describe it’s effects for me? It’s one of the chemical castration drugs. It’s similar to Depo-Provera. I’ve seen the effects – loss of facial hair, breast growth, and dramatic (though not total) reduction of sex drive. > [@](#): > > No, no real fear of prison. I remain arrogant enough to believe I could avoid criminal consequences myself. My concern is, and always has been, the safety of my hypothetical lover from the psychological torture she’d be put through by society in an effort to remake her into the rape victim everyone assumes she must be. She would be. The psychological torture would come from being a rape victim. > [@](#): > > Can you provide me with an example of the age of consent ever protecting anyone? Can you provide an example of homicide laws ever protecting anyone? ---
**Author:** ![Broomstick](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/broomstick/32/246_2.png) [@Broomstick](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Broomstick)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/243 "2009-10-01T14:37:52Z")
> [@Muffin](#): > > I wonder if he gets any from trolling the internet. At least the minimum age of 13 here is above the ages that he would like to rape. > > Why again is he permitted to post here? Would you prefer he post on boards with most participants _under_ 13? Think of it this way - any time he spends here is time he is NOT spending around young children. Isn’t that the lesser of two evils? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/244 "2009-10-01T15:28:45Z")
> [@Cesario](#): > > Yeah, because that’s a strategy that’s just brilliantly conceived, thus the existence of this thread. :rolleyes: I didn’t say it worked. (It doesn’t, and that also goes for every other argument you’ve used to this point.) I said that’s your posting strategy. > [@](#): > > Why in the world would that need to be justified in the first place? You brought up the whole pedophilia topic. If you didn’t want some approval and didn’t think you could convince anyone that you are right, you wouldn’t be posting about it. And yes, you want to justify it. > [@](#): > > Where in the world did you get the idea that I wanted to rape anyone or have sex with anyone who wasn’t capable of meaningful consent? From your posts about wanting to have sex with children age 10 and under. Assuming you are telling the truth about being a pedophile you’re talking about having sex with people not capable of meaningful consent. Of course I have no way of knowing if you’re telling the truth about yourself. ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/245 "2009-10-01T15:55:43Z")
> [@Cesario](#): > > You did read in the article about his interest in a 12 year old, right? Even from just the information provided by the OP, you’d know that’s outside my AoA. For some reason, this made me crack up. ---
**Author:** ![moonstarssun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@moonstarssun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moonstarssun)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/246 "2009-10-01T16:14:08Z")
> [@Cesario](#): > > What makes you think that the child molester who attacked you was a pedophile? Most child molesters aren’t, you know. I understand that there’s a difference, but the consequences were the same for me whether he was a child molester or a pedophile. It was unwanted contact forced on someone powerless to do anything about it. Which makes me feel I need to respond to this: > [@](#): > > Now, for those of you who feel that children can be passively manipulated, and always do whatever an adult tells them to do, I’d like to ask how much success they’ve had making children eat unwanted vegetables? I mean if it’s obvious that every time an adult and a child interact, the child will deffer to the adult, then obviously, no one would ever have a problem getting a child to engage in healthy eating habits. > > You see, children can say “no” to adults when they want to. No they can’t. The situation I was in (and that the majority of others I’ve talked with who have been sexually abused as well) was that because it was an adult–an authority figure–saying no wasn’t an option. Not eating your vegetables, not cleaning your room, whatever you choose to say “no” to has consequences. Do you think there aren’t consequences for saying “no” to sex as well? The idea that a kid can say “No, I don’t want to” and the person will just step away is ludicrous. And insulting to the kids who have gone through it. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/247 "2009-10-01T16:18:08Z")
Why would an adult molest a child if they aren’t a pedophile? ---
**Author:** ![moonstarssun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b9bd4f/32.png) [@moonstarssun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/moonstarssun)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/248 "2009-10-01T16:21:02Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Why would an adult molest a child if they aren’t a pedophile? As I understand it, a pedophile is sexually attracted to children and wants to have consensual sex with them. A child molester is akin to a rapist in that it’s not about sex so much as power. But to me there’s really no difference because a child can’t give consent, and I feel that in most cases the appeal (whether for a pedophile or a molester) is the unequal power in the situation. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/249 "2009-10-01T16:26:31Z")
Not all child molesters are exclusively pedophilic in their interests, but that doesn’t mean that pedophiles and molesters are mutually exclusive. Most sexual abusers of children are indeed pedophiles (and it isn’t true at all that wanting the sex to be consensual is necessarily part of the paraphilia, especially when you’re talking about a target range where consent is impossible). ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 4:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/250 "2009-10-01T16:50:37Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > And before you heard his reason you would be undecided on whether it’s right or wrong to burn out a toddler’s eye with a cigarette. You think it might possibly be ok? Of course I would have a view beforehand. I would modify my view (or most likely not modify it) based upon the argument he put forward. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/251 "2009-10-01T16:54:32Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > Would you prefer he post on boards with most participants _under_ 13? Think of it this way - any time he spends here is time he is NOT spending around young children. Isn’t that the lesser of two evils? There is a recurring theme in a couple (or more; I’m not going back through 5 pages and counting) of people’s posts that by letting **cesario** post on the SDMB, we’re somehow saving him from the rest of the Internet. I don’t know about the rest of you all, but I’m perfectly willing and capable of keeping up with participation in multiple message boards on a daily or weekly basis. If **cesario** wants to hang out on a MB that has significant under-13 participation, his being here on the SDMB isn’t going to stop him. Anyway, this is a person who has openly admitted that he is sexually attracted to toddlers and would like to have sex with them. Either he is totally trolling us – a theory that I find more plausible with every post that he makes, by the way – or he is a sick fuck that gets off on talking about his illegal and dangerous-to-others sexual fetish. Either way I really don’t think that his being here is providing some great learning opportunity for everyone else on the SDMB, or in fact adding to the SDMB in any way. No, I’m not saying he should be banned. I just want him to stop making every goddamn thread he posts in, all about his pedophilia and why it’s rilly OK for him to want to fuck 2-year-olds. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/252 "2009-10-01T16:55:25Z")
> [@Cesario](#): > > What mechanism are you seeing for this “harm” you’re worried about? I’m more than willing to help, but you’re going to need to help me understand your underlying assumptions here. Put crudely, your cock won’t fit ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 5:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/253 "2009-10-01T17:05:38Z")
Well, would you look at that, I learned something from interaction with **Cesario**. ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/254 "2009-10-01T17:09:21Z")
> [@Angry Lurker](#): > > Put crudely, your cock won’t fit Right, if you need evidence of objective harm it’s called vaginal/anal tearing. ---
**Author:** ![fuzzypickles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/9d8465/32.png) [@fuzzypickles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/fuzzypickles)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/255 "2009-10-01T17:26:05Z")
> [@MsWhatsit](#): > > There is a recurring theme in a couple (or more; I’m not going back through 5 pages and counting) of people’s posts that by letting **cesario** post on the SDMB, we’re somehow saving him from the rest of the Internet. I don’t know about the rest of you all, but I’m perfectly willing and capable of keeping up with participation in multiple message boards on a daily or weekly basis. If **cesario** wants to hang out on a MB that has significant under-13 participation, his being here on the SDMB isn’t going to stop him. Even if time spent here is distracting him from places like GirlChat and Free Spirits and other MBs that enable **Cesario’s** sick attraction to minors, it wouldn’t make a bit of difference. He has shown time and again a total unwillingness to listen to others, and refuses to consider anyone’s point of view aside from his own. Self-obsessed narcissists thrive upon being the center of attention, even if that attention is coming from people who would happily inflict violence upon his anatomy if they met him in real life. But ain’t that the way it’s always been in cyberspace? Forget it, Jake…it’s the Internet. :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/256 "2009-10-01T17:39:06Z")
I just googled GirlChat. I don’t want to talk about that. However, although I won’t like to the actual site for obvious reasons, but I will link to a slightly NSFW (but for GOOD reasons) site called something awful. It does piss takes. And although the forum it mocks isn’t girlchat the one it does mock one very similar. You might enjoy this if you appreciate dark humour: [The Pedo Files](http://www.somethingawful.com/d/weekend-web/the-pedo-files.php) ---
**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 5:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/257 "2009-10-01T17:46:10Z")
> [@Angry Lurker](#): > > I just googled GirlChat. > > I don’t want to talk about that. > > However, although I won’t like to the actual site for obvious reasons, but I will link to a slightly NSFW (but for GOOD reasons) site called something awful. It does piss takes. And although the forum it mocks isn’t girlchat the one it does mock one very similar. You might enjoy this if you appreciate dark humour: [The Pedo Files](http://www.somethingawful.com/d/weekend-web/the-pedo-files.php) Goonfleet propaganda, don’t believe a word of it. ---
**Author:** ![Happy\_Poster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Happy\_Poster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Happy_Poster)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 5:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/258 "2009-10-01T17:51:14Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Goonfleet propaganda, don’t believe a word of it. Googled that, have no idea what it means… there’s plenty of results but I get the sense it will give me a headache trying to make sense of it. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/259 "2009-10-01T19:01:39Z")
> [@Angry Lurker](#): > > I just googled GirlChat. > > I don’t want to talk about that. > > However, although I won’t like to the actual site for obvious reasons, but I will link to a slightly NSFW (but for GOOD reasons) site called something awful. It does piss takes. And although the forum it mocks isn’t girlchat the one it does mock one very similar. You might enjoy this if you appreciate dark humour: [The Pedo Files](http://www.somethingawful.com/d/weekend-web/the-pedo-files.php) Ah, good old Something Awful. Gotta love 'em. (I too had to google girlchat…and against my better judgment, I opened the site. _shudder_ At least there wasn’t any porn, just a justification – “this is a site for blah blah blah”) ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [October 1, 2009, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973/260 "2009-10-01T19:41:27Z")
> [@mswas](#): > > Well, would you look at that, I learned something from interaction with **Cesario**. That raping babies has its drawbacks for the baby? My own diaper overflows with newfound wisdom. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973.md?page=12) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/cesario-youre-awfully-sanctimonious-for-a-pedophile/511973.md?page=14)